Kimi to Koete Koi ni Naru • With You, Our Love Will Make It Through - Episode 11 discussion

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This whole situation would be a lot more dramatic if it happened earlier, but as it currently stands, it almost feels like a nothing burger, which is a great social development in itself. The real consequence comes from the paparazzi taking the photo in the first place.

Both Yukihiro and Kisara's one-sided crushes are pretty obvious, whether by scent or general vibe, but at least it's something they can both commiserate over. Kisara has decided to support Mari and Tsunagu because she genuinely wants to support them, but also as a way to feel better about herself and move on from her unrequited feelings, and Yukihiro for his part just wants Mari to be happy even if it inevitably means he can't be with her. But if nothing else, the two of them opening up about their mutual love problems has seemed to make them feel better! They've found someone who can they can really express their feelings too!

Meanwhile, while students back at school are brightening up the place with LED candles, Tsunagu and Mari are cuddling on the school roof. Tsunagu still feels a sense of isolation, even when the class is more accepting of him, but Mari is there to reassure him that there's nothing wrong with what makes him different, it's very much a part of why she loves him! Cue rooftop makeout session.

And then OF COURSE the trashy reporter had a camera staged on the roof to get a picture of them...and then immediately passes it around the entire school. And as if to add insult to injury, he's framing it like Tsunagu was assaulting Mari. And then he can just walk up to our main trio like he did nothing wrong! You know someone's a piece of @#$% when even MARI wants to thrash them!

Poor Tsunagu. Just when it seemed like he'd finally found a place at school, this happens and he has to stay away. Mari and Yukihiro want to make sure he doesn't feel alone or isolated, but there's only so much they can do.

Points to Yukihiro, though, for seeing physical evidence of Mari and Tsunagu hooking up and taking it in stride because he knows they need him.

Mari is still resolved to fight this, for Tsunagu's sake, even boldly declaring her feelings to her mom first thing in the morning! And despite everything, pretty much all of Tsunagu's class (even Ochi!) have his back and are willing to believe in him!

Yet that doesn't change the fact that other students will still readily believe a beastperson is nothing more than an animal, and believe the lies printed by the newspaper club, and the school has to take that into account. Even if it means asking Tsunagu to take a leave of absence from the school. Mari can profess the truth and how she loves him, but it all comes down to what Tsunagu wants.

- [So *that’s* what Kisara is doing.](https://i.imgur.com/mdsD4ep.png) [](#harukathink)

- [Hah, I guess that works.](https://i.imgur.com/M8FWmAh.png) [](#kukuku2)

- [Cute.](https://i.imgur.com/exLMgj1.png) [](#anko)

- [Oh, dang…](https://i.imgur.com/tkvq1Rh.png) [](#therethere)

- [Shimmering sky!](https://i.imgur.com/UM1nfEl.png)

- By the way [I like how Mari turned one of her ribbons into a red string of fate, of sorts.](https://i.imgur.com/iJAinMW.png) [](#neat)

- [Ah shit, the newspaper guy…](https://i.imgur.com/oo73N3H.png) [](#emiliaohdear)

- [It’s already being spread around the school…](https://i.imgur.com/HQYdgzX.png) [](#frustration)

- [Oh absolutely *fuck off*](https://i.imgur.com/rYmJttX.png) with [that nonsense.](https://i.imgur.com/Sxa6F37.png) [](#finethen)

- [*No.*](https://i.imgur.com/rpv5abG.png) [](#deadlystare)

- [Yukiharu really is just great.](https://i.imgur.com/AzlDuwl.png)

- [Shut up.](https://i.imgur.com/jh4MfUV.png) [](#justno)

- [Ritsuka “sore demo”!](https://files.catbox.moe/2ff1ou.mp4)

- [Damn…](https://i.imgur.com/RKHTOeL.png) [](#kurisudisappointed)

- I guess resolving this situation is what the finale is going to be about next week. [](#mugiwait)

🎀Eguchi Tuesday🎀

I want Eguchi and Daisuke Ono to have a growling contest. My body would not survive such daddying, but we all die eventually.

Kisara and Yuki 🥰

What the fuck is wrong with these journalist clubs?

How dark this world is, like there was experimentation for this entire new race of people who are placed in an internment zone, there is propaganda about them, fetishization regarding them, someone wrote a “committee-approved manual” on how to ***respect*** a race of people—like???

Just thinking about the odd anti-romance-genre sentiments I got randomly exposed to—I’m always baffled at the disrespect and condescension romance gets.

Criticisms on *execution* I’ll take—I love romance as a genre, but I’ll criticize the execution of certain themes within specific series where the creator did not think through the weight and severity of what they employed—but there’s been many romances with various grim world building and themes that it has me befuddled with some pockets of the internet *insist* romance as a entire genre is either (A) secretly erotic media or (B) never encompasses anything “serious”.

Trifling behavior to say that of an entire genre.

In any case, I hope all the students who took the pictures and spread that shit around are punished proportional to their crime.

Drama is gonna drama, but what is the journalism club supervisor doing at all with this club, or do they have an anti-beastfolk stance too? Or are they not aware of this website until this event? Whoever is supervising this club needs punishment too.

I’d love admin to see some sort of accountability for this too, but I’m not holding out hope for an admin admitting their faults and taking responsibility 😒

Waaaaait, are we gonna see Tsunagu’s parents possibly next episode (can’t remember if we already did, but I don’t think we have)?👀

[Yukihiro pat Kisara's head](https://i.imgur.com/wZ1gYhA) (kawaii)

[Kisara & Yukihiro moment](https://i.imgur.com/db62ac6) (I want to see this couple more)

[Kisara so cute](https://i.imgur.com/lUdXLRk)

Ok, let's get back to[ our main couple](https://i.imgur.com/wx6Qh04), [so sweet](https://i.imgur.com/uUDAovv)

Ah, they [kissed](https://i.imgur.com/TuF2mlu) and [kissed again](https://i.imgur.com/ss6cksM) (spicy scene incoming hehe...but wait a damn minute, WTF is that?)

Oh no...[they got exposed](https://i.imgur.com/1Bt6aiF)...

[You piece of shit!](https://i.imgur.com/LX9wCPx), [i won't forgive you!!](https://i.imgur.com/zigwjt5) (I swear i will kill you!!!)

[Poor Hidaka & Asaka....](https://i.imgur.com/NkNFeHc)

Kinda love this scene that [Yukihiro's candle was want to go theme park together (also include Kisara too awww)](https://i.imgur.com/ya2B2B6)

Love to see that [classmates supports Hidaka](https://i.imgur.com/uVQ2Z5p) so much, [they know that he wasn't something like that](https://i.imgur.com/ezfQ0Le)

This is my first time that i see [Asaka's crying](https://i.imgur.com/x6IddD2) (pls don't cry)

Chibi [Kisara](https://i.imgur.com/63SrooK) and [Hidaka](https://i.imgur.com/bK9DA9g)

And the next episode was the last episode.....Oh god pls don't end T\^T T\^T

“Journalism” doing a lot of heavy lifting there. That mfer worst than the paparazzi. Really glad the class pretty much has Hidaka’s back. It’s bullshit he’s getting discriminated against like that.

I actually thought the guy genuinely wanted a legitimate good scoop, so seeing he fabricated an article for views was infuriating, particularly because he was so unapologetic about it. He even lied about it at first to their faces, he's such a scummy guy. I know Tsunagu couldn't risk hitting the guy, but I really wanted Yukihiro to go ahead with it lol.

I'm glad the class had his back, other than the two that Ochi no longer hangs with, it was sweet to see them all talking so well about Tsunagu and like Yukihiro I wish he was there to hear them. Looks like Mari and Tsunagu are going the class' first couple lol.

It was nice to see Yukihiro and Kisara have a particular connection with one another, the seeds are already being planted lol.

Man that journalism guy needs to be punished. And what one background comment said, seems like the journalism club doesn’t have a good reputation. Can guess one reason why and hopefully someone brings up that reputation.

Some stitches:

- [Kisara with a cup](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/825/661/578/882/original/f28768a4721b8f74.png)
- [Pet a cat!](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/828/473/900/887/original/1ab80db29fce6af6.png)
- [Another woof on the roof](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/825/869/359/618/original/3567e19d27949d64.png)
- [Nasty razzi](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/826/212/593/247/original/e3b34a1a80abd883.png)
- [👈 Violence is the solution!](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/826/329/385/788/original/383b5404bae6b43f.png)
- [Sad Mari](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/827/633/552/877/original/c617473ee561ce7c.png)
- [Mari w/ a teacher](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/827/754/164/156/original/8d7477dbb3a0622c.png)
- [Mari w/ Yukihiro](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/827/894/604/815/original/c9a199b9e4f2e7bf.png)
- [Teared Mari](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/769/828/009/514/855/original/093cf11d610cb644.png)

If I was Yukihiro I would've punched him right there. That little shit should never work in anything that involves the media. He's 100% the type of scumbag to throw a kid's toy in a trash bin and when the kid goes to pick the toy, he takes a pic and claims poverty is so out of control that kids are searching trash cans for food. The filthy lie that can destroy lives, especially in a racially sensitive context like that.

I hope that Journalist guy gets punished for posting that BS article

You know... all this series it felt like it'd be easy for people to accept them, just from the way their classmates were treating them. But now we get to see that when it comes to the wider world, it's actually really hard for them to stand up for themselves. Oof.

So the journalist club is a paparazzi rag and known for being scummy and despite that the school didn't even ask the two people about what happened on the night of a festival before they started taking administrative action?


The mom didn't know anything so they didn't even reach out to the legal guardians?



You have the teacher who saw both of them comfortably together in their circle of friends right after the article got published and didn't right then and there clear up or ask anything and just sent them home?


And the next day instead of handling such situation with whatever training he went through and protocols the school most assuredly has which generally involve tamping down on the rumors basically asked the entire class if they think he assaulted her and turned it into a popularity contest?




The entire story regarding demihumans and their treatment down to not having any hospitals in their walled in district has layers of discrimination but this is a shitty story arc involving heavy real life themes thats manufactured for the sake of drama so next week they can turn everything around with an impassioned speech and the power of love.

Hidaka school life ruined because of this BS article!!!!

His classmates are supporting him and not believing the lies

Nooo Hidaka is leaving 😭

Man I thought the guy was just gonna expose their relationship before they did..this is way worse.

Hidaka should've let Yukihiro beat that newspaper guy up. Fucking scum! 


The beginning of the episode with Kidara and Yuki bonding was so sweet. And then that cute moment between Asaka and Hidaka on the roof had me all awwing before things took a really bad turn.


So worried about Hidaka. He shouldn't have to deal with this. :(


Glad his classmates have all got his back at least. But like Yukihiro said, he should've been in class to hear it. So unfair of the school to ask him to stay away and possibly even leave for good.


Hope things turn around for the better before long. 

Well of course this is one anime that doesn’t have a after credits preview

I really like that Mari is a traditional demure Shoujo heroine but with a spine. One of the things I really dislike about this archetype in anime in general is how they make it feel like the female character can't do anything significant or risky on her own.

But Mari is out here not just being defended and supported but actively pushing for those responsible to be punished and for Tsunagu to not face any blame because he didn't do anything wrong. She is evidently angry about it which shows her character has a level of dignity and self respect and she won't let anyone step over her _in her favor or against_.

All of this _without_ compromising her character archetype, which is what I feel a writer nervous about writing a too weak heroine would do and overcompensate.

I'm consistently impressed how this _still_ blatantly fetishistic furry Shoujo gets a lot of basic writing things right, much better than the average romance anime. Like what the hell, this is actually pretty good.

When Asaka says there was no sexual assault or force involved, shouldn't that be the end of it as far as school discipline? You don't need a full investigation into something that isn't there and it seemed even the school staff was treating it differently. Like if there was a secret photo of a boy on top of a girl making out with her, it wouldn't have reached this stage and maybe they'd have gotten in small trouble for making out at school or whatever.

I still think Kisara has a crush on Yukihiro even though she had him walk her home under the pretense of wanting to discuss that she likes Tsunagu and she knows he likes Asaka; that's why she left the suggestion that they go to lunch sometime. She likely picked up his scent that he was aroused when they were hugging and sometimes you don't even need a special sense of smell to tell when someone is interested. 😛

What a freaking slimeball, what a piece of work this kid is. Just so unapologetic about flushing someone's life right down the drain.


I really thought Mari was going to just slap that absolute breathe right out his creepy stalker lying face.


Man, good on Ochi for stopping that general nonsense. He continues to fascinate me as a character. I think I like him a lot for some reason.


I hope the class finds a way to fix this since Mari's word apparently isn't enough.

So, not only did the administration took action before hearing anything from those involved, giving Tsunagu the option to leave due to some students' (and most likely the staff) "fear" of beast people, they decided to interview the journalism group last, giving them plenty of time to come up with an excuse and fake apology to lessen their punishment.

Great...

Pictures of underage people without consent are an issue in most countries.

BUT, strangely (as somebody who had a nasty rumor creating an issue when I was in Junior High), how the school handled, or mishandled the issue is relatable.

In my case, as the rumor was really nasty, in the end a teacher was fired (because how he handled the thing), and a few students suspended. BUT the school tried to keep all in secret.

Thing is, I did not actually care about the thing, but others and the school did and made the issue bigger, because just talking, asking questions would have solved everything without firings or suspensions.

Anyways, I can relate, even if this was almost 30y ago or something.


Edit: Just as it happened in the episode. The school started DOING things before asking the probable victim or her opinion. They did it to protect their reputation, not the truth or the students involved.

That scumbag of a reporter needs to get some proper whipping for spreading disinformation. Unfortunately, just as in real life, the victims are always the first to be penalized.

That said, I'm glad the elephant in the room is being addressed. I hope this ends with a public declaration of love between Tsunagu and Mari, something that will make Sakuta and Mai proud.

Finally, an accurate depiction of school faculty in anime. Worse than useless in every conceivable aspect!

I wonder if that student can get sued for defamation, Japan takes defamation cases seriously

This is what I've always hated and so few anime get right when it comes to the high school setting. These kids would be threatening to sue and burn the school down with the official newspaper student as the gasoline. Even in Japan the school the victims and parent would be so outraged this is the LAST thing the school do because they 100% know if a trial happen asking the Victim to stay out of school will be seen as an attempt at cover up. Illegal Surveillance, Libel, Defamation Actual severe crimes in japan with their focus on honor the school and the newspaper student are done if it goes to court the teacher would face harsh punishments for trying to cover it up. The school became liable because the student was part of the school newspaper and worse if you can prove the spy cameras were bought with newspaper funds.

One of the few anime to get this right was March Comes in Like a Lion if your watched you know. Anime too often tries this teacher cover up it's up to the victim to come back to have a will they or not melodramatic moment but it's nonsense and it just always makes the show worse. Lot more good solid drama in treating this with realistic gloves then soap opera mellowdrama

And so the losers are going to become a couple too.

:3

Headpats for Kisara!

So, they're on the roof of the school at night after the festival.

He kissed her!

Well, that's close enough to a confession.

What's that flash?

Ah. Paparazzi.

And so it's right on the front page.

Headpats for Asaka!

Pretty sure that's enough for everyone in the school to have seen it already...

Yeah... Unsurprisingly she's become a topic of much discussion.

And unsurprisingly if it comes down to the class they're going to kick him out.

Or not.

So, she's explained her side of the story too.

And so into the finale.

Posting this here, the main cast's floral motifs in the OP cos I'm not sure people have mentioned it yet:

Mari: Cherry blossoms (?) (renewal, hope, love and happiness; also appears when first meeting occurs on first day of sch)

Tsunagu: Blue hydrangeas (frigidity, gratitude, heartfelt and sincere emotion)

Yukihiro: Sunflowers (happiness, optimism, loyalty, inner strength and guidance)

Kisara: Japanese lantern fruits (hope, resilience, protection, good fortune, love)

This was definitely a rough spot for Tsunagu and Mari. Fortunately, they have a strong relationship and great support from Yukihiro, Kisara, and others.

Newspaper club guy is definitely going to grow up to be the worst kind of tabloid slop yellow journalist if he doesn’t change his ways. He definitely wins the anime scumbag of the year award. Not only did he place a hidden camera on the roof to catch students doing naughty stuff. Not only did he publish an intimate moment between classmates without their consent (surely has to violate some surveillance and revenge p0rn laws?). He made a fake story accusing a minority student of assault and DOUBLED DOWN on it when confronted about it. People have literally been LYNCHED because of lies like that, and something similar easily could have happened to Tsunagu if enough racists got a hold of the story. That kid should be suspended at LEAST if not totally expelled, and the “journalism” club should be disbanded. Absolute slime, and unfortunately totally believable.