Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Rewatch Episode 16 Discussion

# Episode 16: [Long-Lived Friends](https://files.catbox.moe/l4yhdl.jpg)
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## Currently disclosed information:

Currently nothing at the moment. Please stand by. And awaiting orders.

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## Questions for the day:

1) It's from yesterdays episode, any idea how could humanity use/utilize curses and cursed powers in terms of magic development? If that was mentioned regarding the plant monster.

2) How dutiful is old man Voll?

3) Do you think he would be a good master for training as he has lots of wisdom and life experiences?

4) Any theories regarding that promise with his beloved?

5) Gorilla Warrior, Goatee Priest, Stubborn Granny, do you think these impactful-sounding monikers like these are easier to remembered?

6) Did Sein really took the Goatee Priest thing seriously?

7) Did you expected that Kraft is venerated as a local hero?

8) How does the photography spell works?

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## Highlights from yesterday:

1) u/Magnafeana really enjoyed the previous episode:

> GODFUCKINGDAMMIT Why is it the mimics

> Based, Sein. Based.

> This is…weird.

> Oh this is weird, oh my gods.

> Why they always floating him now

> The music has me fucking hyped.

> What were the animators on, my gods

> Oh my gods he looks so adorable blushing, I live.

> Frieren really is part of the Old Lady Gang. Heiter’s headpatting praise lives on, and that’s so sweet.

> I’ve read this plot several times in romances.

> I feel like I boarded a ship without knowing I was on the ship. What just happened? We’re so far from the platonic docks, we are in the middle of the romance sea. How did I get on this ship? When did I get here?

> Oh damn, the parallels.

> Huh. So Orden is aware is the harsh treatment of warrior villages. Good to know. Curious.

> Ooooh that OST had me triggered into Madoka again, I was so alarmed.

> Don’t smack her hand away from the donut, ma’am

> That was amazing!!!

> Ooooh he really knee about Stark’s village.

> Why am I crying this us giving me a headache

> Evan Call, you son of a bitch. Phenomenal!! Much appreciation to the animators and all those involves in the waltz production. Was this the Viennese waltz?

2) For u/SpiritualPossible, everythoing is about Him:

> But although elements of it ARE there... This episode is mainly about Stark. Focuse pretty much always on him: It's about how he resembles his deceased son, how he must learn etiquette, etc., how he sees his family in the lord's family.

3) u/JustAnswerAQuestion sums up one important lesson of the story here:

> One nice summary of the post prologue is that journeys are best shared, something Frieren is learning.

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## Disclaimer notice:

Dear rewatchers, please be nice to the first-time watchers or the manga readers to the anime-onlies by simply not spoilering anything. But if you want to discuss spoiler-territory things, use spoiler tags instead. Thank you for your understanding.

For example [this is] >!a spoiler!<
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SpiritualPossible2025-12-23 22:00

To be honest, this is one of my favorite episodes. Old Voll's story is very simple, but very effective. It's clear how different Frieren's interaction with him is from... virtually everyone else. We have never seen Frieren as friendly as she is today. For her, he is probably one of the few who can truly understand her, as another long-lived being carrying memories of long-lost people. The show also focuses enough attention on Voll himself, and we really understand his feelings for his late wife, and the duty he carries. They really work as good parallels with how similar their experience are. This only makes it even more sad when Frieren finally accepts that her old friend is truly losing the memories that are so dear to him. The wheel of time turns for everyone. The only thing left for her to do is to do the same as the old man and preserve the memories of her loved ones.

Honestly, it's amazing how good this story is, considering it's only half an episode and the character was just introduced. Who would have thought that some side character would steal the spotlight and help explore the themes of the show!

And, of course, the theme of fading memories is also touched upon in the second half of the episode, which deals with long-forgotten heroes of the village. And it's very nice to discover that Kraft was a warrior, as this fits well with his words about "no one remembering the path you walked". This half of the episode also saw developments in Sein's search for his friend, but it's better to talk about that tomorrow.

SmallJon2025-12-23 22:26

If the guestimate ages we have for Frieren and Voll are right, its very possible she's known him for a third or more of her life. They dont seem to travel together, but that large a chunk against just a percentage for Himmel and Party and its not too shocking she's so open to him

esquerdameusovo2025-12-23 22:03

Good job

xbolt902025-12-23 22:10

**Repeat Journeyer**

This show, delivering gut punches like that...

That look on Frieren's face when she realized Voll *really was* senile. My heart sank at the same time.

I wonder if the party's conversation with Voll was part of the reason Himmel never truly pursued Frieren. He recognized the tremendous burden that would have placed on her for the rest of her very, very long life.

And then from there, we go to a D&D adventure in errand-running.

Gorilla Warrior and Goatee Priest. If those aren't some badass names for an adventuring duo, I don't know what is.

Kraft was once a quite renowned warrior, to have multiple statues of him and his human companion made. And now, no one knows their names, let alone what they did.

I wonder if we'll ever learn more about Kraft and his companion. Part of me thinks that we should not. Let it stand as a mystery lost to time, fitting the theme of the story.

I'm reminded of the poem *Ozymandias*.

> 1) It's from yesterdays episode, any idea how could humanity use/utilize curses and cursed powers in terms of magic development? If that was mentioned regarding the plant monster.

I dunno. Throw chaos plant seeds at your enemy's strongholds maybe?

> 2) How dutiful is old man Voll?

Quite so, even in his advanced years.

> 3) Do you think he would be a good master for training as he has lots of wisdom and life experiences?

For sure.

> 4) Any theories regarding that promise with his beloved?

Protecting the town they both loved.

> 5) Gorilla Warrior, Goatee Priest, Stubborn Granny, do you think these impactful-sounding monikers like these are easier to remembered?

I'm terrible with names. Unless we see each other regularly for a month, I've forgotten your name five minutes after you tell it to me. But Gorilla Warrior? I ain't forgetting that.

> 6) Did Sein really took the Goatee Priest thing seriously?

Not as much as Gorilla, certainly.

> 7) Did you expected that Kraft is venerated as a local hero?

While even though nobody knows his name, it's nice that he at least gets some recognition as having been important at some point.

> 8) How does the photography spell works?

An intricate light spell. Pretty much all spells we see generate light, this does so in a very specific and intricate pattern.

BaytaCosmico2025-12-24 02:53

>I wonder if the party's conversation with Voll was part of the reason Himmel never truly pursued Frieren. He recognized the tremendous burden that would have placed on her for the rest of her very, very long life.

Damn, I didn't even consider that. But it could very well be the case. That makes their romance even more tragic. :((

TheDanubianCommunard2025-12-23 22:19

### Second-time watcher and your host (subs),

The next journey is a small village which guarded by a very old dwarf, Voll, who is basically a friend of Frieren and the hero party. And also really loved his wife, a human woman. Some promise which he only knows. And he is a real veteran, pretending himself as a senile old mna in order the potential opponents let their lower their guards, what a true experience indeed. He is a good teacher, a strong warrior, and a local hero of some sorts. He did never heard of the good news until now. What a legend.

Second part leads to one village, with not-so cold trails regarding the Gorilla Warrior. The locals know something about him. The stubborn grandma will talk about it, after earning her trust. Which means more errands. Being hero is like, they are wanderers arriving to one place, helping the local,s earning their favor, attention and respect, they will leave andd continue their job. And the locals job is to repay that respect by venerating these nameless ones, like erecting a small statue. Gorilla Warrior also wants to achieve this. Or Kraft, who arrived there to this village once, a long time ago. The elf monk and his comrade, it served as an inspiration to the two young kids who aspired to adventurers.

And looks like Sein is soon to depart to follow his own way, as his journey leads to a different direction.

Here is some [Frieren looking down](https://files.catbox.moe/fipag4.jpg), worthy to u/SpaceDev1 and Adel Sabi.

> 1) It's from yesterdays episode, any idea how could humanity use/utilize curses and cursed powers in terms of magic development? If that was mentioned regarding the plant monster. Start with the simplest ones.

They could analize, reverse engineer, trainable, developable into new ways just like Zoltraak. But it needs many decades in order to decipher its secrets though.

> 2) How dutiful is old man Voll?

Always on Guard Duty, the ever vigilant.

> 3) Do you think he would be a good master for training as he has lots of wisdom and life experiences?

Yes.

> 4) Any theories regarding that promise with his beloved?

I think he is sitting there on duty, because some kind of guilty consicence. I suspect he and his wife wanted to reunite and confess under the tree, but she was killed by a demon before ever happening. I think that is why he is so secretive.

> 5) Gorilla Warrior, Goatee Priest, Stubborn Granny, do you think these impactful-sounding monikers like these are easier to remembered?

The cooler the better.

> 6) Did Sein really took the Goatee Priest thing seriously?

He has a goatee, and he is a priest, so yes.

> 7) Did you expected that Kraft is venerated as a local hero?

An elf like him, it can be expected like that.

> 8) How does the photography spell works?

Probably if it was like a photographer device, the photocopy is made as some sort of materialized substance.

SmallJon2025-12-23 22:20

**Rewatcher**

Almost certainly a reach, but I do find it really interesting that for the ancient hero statues, Kraft was the warrior and not the priest. Not to doubt his combat skills, but it reminded me of the mild religion discussions we've seen in the show, specifically Eisen & Heiter's talks and that we see Eisen praying at his parents' graves when Frieren comes to see him. It makes me wonder if OG!Goatee converted Kraft in their lost past.

Brief-Fig-75062025-12-23 22:38

**Rewatcher**

Dubbed

So ready to have time off from work for Christmas.

* Now it's a fishing anime
* A magic photo? That mage must have come from another world. A funny game to play is to watch a couple different Isekai anime but imagine them all in the same world.
* Lol, "We'll stay for a decade or so" is WAY too casual.
* Fern and Stark seemed like they were having a nice conversation with each other. Somewhat of a contrast to what we have seen from them so far.
* So, Old-Man Foll or Eisen? Who do we think is stronger?
* Frieren really enjoys talking to this guy. I wonder how many times they have met before. She's probably telling him 80 years worth of stuff.
* That was a really cute scene between Foll and the Hero's party.
* 11:44 This shot was used for **SO MANY** thumbnails on Youtube because of how unusual it is while still being an incredible shot. It makes you focus on Frieren's eyes conveying her shock and helps give the viewer the same awkward feeling she is experiencing as she realizes that her long-lived friend actually ***is*** mentally deteriorating and nearing the end of his life.
* His Friend actually went by Gorilla-Warrior...
* Hmm, That guy on the right looks familiar.
* Now Sein has to make a decision whether to stay with this current party or keep following his friends' tracks and hope to find him eventually.

I wonder what Old-Man Foll did to make Frieren like him so much? Is it just because they've both lived a long time? The brief flashback didn't make it seem like she knew him before.

This episode was all about maintaining friendships regardless of how they are developed. I feel bad for Frieren knowing that she will soon lose someone whom she considers a friend, but I also believe that Kraft could be another person she may be able to talk to eventually about their long-long lives. They could probably keep the same time table as her and Foll and just catch up while passing each other every century or so.

Magnafeana2025-12-23 23:00

**First Timer: Beyond Dubbed’s End**

All this talk of spirits and stuff, and I’m gonna cry if Sein’s friend comes back temporarily as a spirit.

“Take a photo” with magic.

Oh so they can live a fraction of the lives of elves, huh?

*visible gobsmackery* She was a human?! So that really makes me wonder about other interracial relationships in this world and any children.

Dwarf aesthetic seems to be very conservative.

Not me realizing that Ende is just *end* and it makes sense why that’s the destination.

You don’t even know his first name 😭

Ooooh that really is a worst name, no offense to my goatee people. Does this facial hair even quality as a goatee?

“Old woman” 👀

Ooooooh oh okay.

If that’s a fucking mimic so help me Gaia

>Fern: It’s too bad everyone in our party is socially awkward

😭

IDGAF, I ship it.

That’s Kraft?!

Gorilla should play 4D chess with J.R Ward. Black Dagger Brotherhood characters have truly unforgettable names.

Oh my gods aawwwwwwww he grew his facial hair for that 🥹

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**First Timer: Beyond Manga’s End**

Anime added flashback with Sein and Gorilla.

Ch 33 at 3:01

Anime extended the traveling scene.

Anime!Frieren says Stark will be training with Voll. Manga!Frieren tells Stark to get Voll to train him.

Anime extended Stark’s exhaustion at the dinner table.

Anime!Frieren says see you later to Voll.

Ch 34 at 13:11

Manga!Frieren asks why Fern is looking at her as she didn’t do anything wrong to make the journey long (this time).

Anime!Stark delivered the letter to the smith. Manga!Sein did so.

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**Additional Thoughts**

It’s so curious about the emphasis on memories, of being forgotten, the relationships we make along the way, and how we find meaning in our actions and in life.

The “take a photo with magic” had me more curious about magi and technology and patenting and inventing here. What prevents a lot of these spells from being commodified for usage at least from nobles? Such as building devices that people can use without requiring them to cast a spell? What exactly is the priority of the government and any magic institution? Magic used for combat purposes seems to be studied upon, but non-combat spells are used like currency. The concept of a “photo” still seems not fashionable either. Was this wandering mage a genius?

Kraft being a hero of old—I look back on the time we had with Kraft, and I view his conversation with Frieren in another light. When Fern remarks about Frieren being a hero to Kraft and Kraft being nonchalant—Frieren didn’t know Kraft was ever a hero either. “Because we’re elves”. Like damn.

I ship him and the priest together.

It’s cuffing seasons. I know my rights.

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**QotD**

1. Those curses could become interesting healing practices. For example, putting people in a coma in order (sleeping) in order to help them further heal and minimizing external stimuli.
2. 400s. He looks no a day over 300.
3. Yes.
4. What to theorize? He states he defends this time due to the promise he made.
5. The first two, yes. The stubborn old lady one, no.
6. I think he did. And it shows how much Heiter and a Gorilla meant to him.
7. No.
8. I’m unsure. I barely know how photography works IRL 😭 But this sort of spell existing gives me so many world building questions.

Hartzilla20072025-12-24 02:50

>The concept of a “photo” still seems not fashionable either. Was this wandering mage a genius?

Sounds like its just a rare ability. Stark actually sounded impressed Sein was able to get one taken.

Antares_de_la_Luz2025-12-23 23:05

**Rewatcher**

I fear the day when I begin forgetting my dearest memories. That terrorizes me.

dontoff2025-12-23 23:14

**Rewatcher (Dub)**

* “I didn’t understand back then, but I am grateful now,” she says with a smile on her face. Frieren really has changed by leaps and bounds, and it’s so lovely seeing her interact with an old friend.
* “Please don’t insult me.” Is it just me, or was that aggressively romantic coming from Frieren? It was like, *of course* I know how my man looks and sounds.
* I love Sein’s character, and I think the role he took in the party was great. He really is used as a thematic bridge in this episode. He is the “what if” character, a reminder that many of us still have the chance to move forward before regret can settle in.
* We’re getting close to where I think the show takes a pretty hard dip in quality because of the direction it goes in, so I’m trying to savor these episodes while they last.

JustAnswerAQuestion2025-12-24 00:07

**First Timer**

Since we had special ending credits yesterday I'm expecting new op today. Nope.

The chances that Sein's friend is still alive and met a girl and just decided to settle down and not return home is about zero.

* Perhapse i'll stay for a decade "that's not funny" -- Fern, probably
* "I hate dwarves" -- Stark, probably
* Of course she remembers, it's only been 30 years.
* that chicken didn't have horns so it's not a monster, just a really really big chicken.
* Yeah it will be hard to forget the name of Gorillla Warrior.

He did say he was a temporary companion. But, you can go that way after you leave Ausserst.

donuteater1112025-12-24 01:01

**Rewatcher (Sub)**

(Sorry if my writing here isn't great. I've been feeling sick these last couple days, so my focus isn't as strong as it could be.)

Really liked the first half of the episode. Seeing someone who's more in line with Frieren in terms of how long he's been alive was already an interesting idea. But add in the focus on memories, and we get a very beautiful story. I loved how Voll was still influenced by his wife's memories and wishes, even after she faded from his memories. The parallels with Frieren's memories of Himmel were nicely done. The moment Frieren realizes how far his memory had really gone was haunting, but on the other hand I liked when he says he dreamed of his wife for the first time in a while.

The second half was a pretty good Sein story. The focus on leaving your mark as a hero was a fun one, and I liked seeing the dynamic between Sein and Gorilla Warrior. The tasks they did for the old woman was fun as well.

Friends5132025-12-24 01:27

Rewatcher, first time dub watcher

I liked the two arcs in this one and how they felt connected in themes…

Old man dwarf was guarding the village despite not remembering anything about his wife (until later on), while the villagers in that town polished two great heroes whose names were lost over time

Kraft being that warrior is something I don’t remember at all. This was a cool episode and one of my highlights now on rewatch when it definitely wasn’t on my other watch (watching it as it released w/ sub)

BaytaCosmico2025-12-24 02:31

**First-timer, subbed**

More wistfulness in this here story. This time about how memories fade with time but still the feeling remains. Old Man Voll's story is sad but touching. To forget the face and voice of someone you love so much that you've spent years taking care of a village they were fond of is just :(

That he's forgotten that the Demon King was already defeated comes as a surprise to Frieren but the kind woman that she is, she doesn't correct him.

Dementia is only of my biggest fears. Feels so cruel that our memories are not forever. They're so precious but so fragile.

Have a bad feeling about Sein's Gorilla Warrior friend. Dunno why but I'm getting heavy death flags. Will he go his own way now looking for him? He has to, right? But the conflict is understandable. He has bonded with Frieren's party after all. So it must be hard to part ways.

Narratively speaking, we can't lose him just yet ajd splitting the party doesn't make sense. But for him to find out his friend is possibly alive and not try to go after him also makes no sense. Can't wait to see how this goes.

Hartzilla20072025-12-24 02:55

Rewatcher

Well this does have a depressing thought about Himmel and co. as eventually people won't even remember their names just that they were heroes that did something important and even Frieren will probably eventually forget things about it, which is probably another reason Voll's failing memory freaked her out. Kind of get why Kraft is hoping the Goddess is keeping track.

Also Kraft did a class change at some point. At it seems Sein has an important decision to make.

tripleaamin2025-12-24 05:40

**Rewatch: Blu-Ray Version**

The first half of the episode was a nice focus where we got to see some parallels between Frieren & Old Man Voll. Interesting to see we get to see our 2nd dwarf after Eisen. Him being approximately 400 years old despite the average lifespan of 300 years for a dwarf is interesting. I get the sense that Eisen must be around at least 200 years old if I had to guess.

Though the parallels between Frieren & Voll are interesting. Both of them are carrying out the goals of honoring those they cared about. Frieren journeyed to learn more about humans in the memory of Himmel and for Voll, protected the village that his wife loved. Though despite Frieren joking Voll is pretending to be senile, it's clear he has some form of dementia, which makes sense since he is 25% older than the average lifespan of a dwarf. A bit sad knowing that even if he is alive the next time Frieren sees him, he might forget even more than just Frieren having already defeated the Demon King. Still, it is heartwarming that he was able to dream of his late wife.

It is easy to forget that Sein has his own reasons for going on this journey. This episode was a nice focus on getting information on where Gorilla is headed. Through Gorilla, we see the type of influence Himmel had on the next generation. Still, it must hurt Sein to hear that Gorilla was talking about him, and he just accepted for so long that Gorilla was gone. It's also cool to see Kraft himself being an influence on both Sein & Gorilla. While it is good that Sein got information on where Gorilla went, it is in the opposite direction of Äuberst. So what does Sein plan to do here?

Chapters 33 and 34 were covered in this episode. Nothing too much to note. Some panels were extended and definitely look nicer in the anime medium.

tripleaamin2025-12-24 05:42

It's from yesterdays episode, any idea how could humanity use/utilize curses and cursed powers in terms of magic development? If that was mentioned regarding the plant monster.

* Curses feel like something that would not be for the benefit of people. Maybe sleeping aid I guess?

How dutiful is old man Voll?

* It should never be quesitoned.

Do you think he would be a good master for training as he has lots of wisdom and life experiences?

* Yes.

Any theories regarding that promise with his beloved?

* Perhaps to never hold reget.

Gorilla Warrior, Goatee Priest, Stubborn Granny, do you think these impactful-sounding monikers like these are easier to remembered?

* Yes

Did Sein really took the Goatee Priest thing seriously?

* Yes

Did you expected that Kraft is venerated as a local hero?

* Yes

How does the photography spell works?

* Who knows.

LeminaAusa2025-12-24 10:34

**3rd Ranked Rewatcher**

Another couple of small stories for today's episode. As usual, pretty nice and cosy in these episodes.

Our first episode introduces us to Old Man Voll, and old acquaintance of Frieren's from her days in the Hero's Party. Frieren, Fern, Stark, and Sein spend a week in the village doing odd jobs around the place and giving Frieren some time to catch up with her old friend.

Most notable part of this section of the episode for me is Voll's past and connection to the village, and how it sets him up as a possible parallel for (future) Frieren. He fell in love with a woman and lived with her in the village, and due to his extended lifespan, he ended up living in the village long past the memories of those who lived there, and long enough for him to forget the face and voice of his wife after the long years. His discussions with Frieren also sadly reveal that he is indeed beginning to lose his memory properly now, though at least our visit with him ends on a high note as his spends the night before the party's departure dreaming of his wife again.

Second part of the episode delves more into Sein's backstory and his friend, GORILLA WARRIOR, as well as some unexpected lore for Kraft! I thought it was such an awesome tie-in for our party to have recently met the modern Kraft as a Monk making a life for himself now that everyone has forgotten his past exploits, only to finally get a glimpse of those exploits just a bit later. I also love that Heiter was technically the one to actually give Sein the "Goatee Priest" moniker based on the appearance of the statue.

Frieren, Fern, Stark, and Sein doing all those little missions for the old lady really gave me a lot of RPG side-quest vibes, though in the end we do learn some valuable info... that GORILLA WARRIOR headed off to the east, and it seems likely that ~~Sein~~ Goatee Priest is likely going to be gearing up to leave us already...

1) It seems that curses as a category mostly exist because humans can't understand or reverse-engineer them, so it would be pretty difficult to properly make use of.

2) It's interesting that it probably does just feel like a duty for him now, even though originally it was just natural to protect the place where he and his wife lived. It's interesting the different ways in which life takes us.

3) To some extent of course, but he's also old so I imagine he has to be a bit careful, hah. I can't help but compare him to Eisen a bit, as Voll looks a hell of a lot older (and likely is, given that he was already rather old when the Hero's Party came through ~80 years earlier), but Eisen was also saying that he's now too old to swing an axe.

4) I don't really think it's anything deep or mysterious, just that he's protecting the town they lived in together.

5) It's extra funny if you compare them in Japanese: Gorilla Warrior is Gorilla Senshi, Goatee Priest is just the same term in Japanese literally translated, and the Stubborn Granny's name is actually something of a pun (ganko = stubborn, obaa-san = grandmother or general old woman, so gankobaa-san just smooshes them together). So they're all really different kind of names all said and done, but GORILLA WARRIOR really does have the heaviest impact of them all.

6) It seems like it, but he does also just look good in a goatee, as predicted.

7) Well, he did say that he's had a lot of adventures in his long life, so it's nice to be able to get a glimpse of them!

8) Hmmm, probably magic.

GyozaGodfather2026-01-15 22:40

**Rewatcher Subbed**

This first half of this episode is and one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Incredible that its done in 10 minutes of actual runtime.