Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari Ⅱ • Tales of Wedding Rings Season 2 - Episode 13 discussion

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I wonder how our big happy family will be able to stave off future assassination attempts after they finally do return. And I really do want to see a whole boatload of babies....

Totally agree, all the others had to do was believe in him, that’s it. Didn’t feel like a special bond apart from the mage and other knight who believed in him too. Wish he would’ve showed some affection and commitment to marrying the other girls too but oh well, hime is beautiful so it’s fine lol

I said this earlier in the season when there was a party split, but the final two princesses desperately needed more development. Amber mostly got this when she reconnected with her dwarven heritage and decided to create a new future for her people...

But it still didn't feel right. We still didn't get Satou bonding with Amber properly, nor did it feel entirely right from Amber's side. She wants to save the world and make a bunch of dwarven babies, yes, but that still doesn't feel *personal* enough.

"I will use you to save the world and restore my people." Is different from "It has to be you" or even "I can't imagine this being anyone else but you" You know?

And Saphir... was just kinda... there... until the end. She has this low-key tsundere vibe that she never pushed past into a real bond. It just felt like she was holding back, and Satou even said he's not physically attracted to her petite frame!

So when did they grow closer? Did I miss something?

If anything, it just felt like "Saphir's stuff" was largely taken over by Saphira and Marse. Which wasn't entirely bad, just a missed opportunity. For a bit it felt like Saphir was growing jealous of her little sister 'surpassing' Saphir in love, she even got pregnant and their father was shedding tears of joy! That should have been a mini-arc that pushed Saphir closer to Satou as she finally overcame her pride enough to be honest with him.

I did like how some of the friendships started to develop. Mostly it was Nef and Granyat forming a wholesome jock/nerd bond, and to a lesser extent Nef and Krystal became friends.

But once again... Saphir and Amber really needed more bonding.

Also, we never got confirmation that Satou has "fulfilled his duties" as a husband to the others! All in all, the ending kinda felt rushed.

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Even as a harem fan, I think the series would have been more interesting if there was no harem or love triangle. That is, where Hime was the only main waifu. Childhood friends doing the diry on TV and the series have ample T&A is a combo that is apparently quite uncommon in anime, from what I have observed.

> Honestly I don't mind Haruto and Hime's relationship as it is, but that it flew in the face of and basically rejected the Harem premise

This has been my main problem with the show.

From the very beginning, it's established that intimacy = power. He needs to bring the world together to fight this existential threat through 'bonds.' Not just the bonds between nations, but the bonds between himself and his wives.

He's outright told, and experiences, that physical intimacy = power when Hime's first kiss gave him the strenght to fight his first set of monsters. He even gets kisses from her throughout the first season as mini power ups.

But... then he keeps collecting wives only to largely neglect them. They give him elemental upgrades, sure, but that's about the extent of it. He's supposed to be forging bonds with them (emotional AND physical), but he's largely just picking up equipment.

Even outside of romantic or physical bonds, he still feels like he's keeping them at an emotional distance. Amber was the worst in being largely taken for granted, as Satou didn't even feel like he was trying to become friends with most of them.

Worse, he challenges the Abyss King at the end of S1 and got slapped back. The whole series he's told, and experiences, "intimacy = power." He then has his mettle tested and is found wanting. The obvious answer is to stop ignoring his wives and "do his duty."

Even setting aside the "SAVING THE WORLD" aspect, he's MARRIED to these women and has a sacred responsibility to 'take care' of them. That's not just the physical aspect, but the emotional as well.

And he completely ignores the first while barely going through the motions of the second.

Even using the excuse of "focusing on Krystal," how many times did that goal post get moved and excuses made? Krystal has to have a meltdown and fall to the Darkness before Satou will accept her. And yet here we are, end of the series, and he's still neglecting everyone but Krystal.

There is even a plot point where Krystal 'accepts' her sister wives leading to a massive power upgrade for Satou, and... nothing changes. Worse, this plot point is immediately contradicted when Krystal goes dark, in no small part because of her fear of losing Satou to one of the others.

So did she accept the harem or not?

And when did Satou finally accept the others, besides Hime? Did I miss him fully accepting the love of the others, and being comfortable loving them in turn? Of grappling with his feelings of 'cheating' on Hime, of being selfish/greedy, of taking advantage of them?

The most we got from this angle, was Satou's fear of becoming like the former Ring King. However, it was impossible for me to take this seriously as Staou hadn't even jumped Hime yet. So how are we supposed to believe he would turn into a cruel lust monster when he's been an innocent cherry boy that rejects the harem over monogamy with his One True Love. And to such an extent that it's absurd. The fate of the world rested on him 'deepening his bonds' with these women, but he still refused!

Sleeping with all of them wouldn't even be some 'excuse' he was exploiting. They all knew their duties and were prepared... even DTF to a desperate extent for a few. Granart in particular was suffering from a jammed clam when she's first introduced, even referring to herself as an 'old maid' by her people's custom. She couldn't find a husband and was even willing to bend her traditions as an excuse to smash with Satou.

Worse, for Satou, is that he went out of his way to win her hand properly, gaining her love and respect in the process, only to set her aside afterwards. In other words, he went out of his way to lead her own only to shut her down.

And considering that the FATE OF THE WORLD rested on him 'getting close' with Granart, it was not only cruel but stupid as well.

This entire show feels like it's been at war with it's own premise the entire time.

No, I mean Hime is the Best Girl and Granart is second Best Girl.

I cannot look at the show "Anne Shirley" the same way knowing that the Eng. VA for Gilbert in that show is also the hero in this show's Eng. dub.

Based.

I also can't pick just one, I do support Hime as #1 though.

> It's Saphir for me because it's so rare to see a petite female character where an inferiority complex over her body isn't at all a factor and instead she's confident af and I also like that she doesn't just immediately swoon over MC-kun and goes at her own pace about life and love.

But I have to dock points from Satou calling her petite frame 'juvenile' to the point he can't feel sexual interest in her.

She, quite understandably, got upset with Satou over this, but did I miss where the issue ever got truly resolved? Like, it's hard to be married to someone and have a healthy relationship when your partner isn't sexually attracted to you.

More than any other Ring Princess, Saphir felt the most neglected by both the story and Satou. She was just kinda... there.

Saphir was my fav too love her sassy tsundere act if it was me i would bang her every day she is just my type

I also loved her character. I'm sad she got the least amount of development though.

I'll check out manga for that.

Damn. That is sad to hear. :(

I really think author had so much to cook with, He did set up story perfectly.

I wonder if he got burned out, manga was not as successful to go that deep into plot development, or he simply always planned for it to go this way.

I get the same feeling like I did with SAO season 1. :(

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