Kimi to Koete Koi ni Naru • With You, Our Love Will Make It Through - Episode 12 discussion
*Kimi to Koete Koi ni Naru*, episode 12
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[*Maybe some others too.*](https://i.imgur.com/hs7bLrH.jpeg)
[For the next generation.](https://i.imgur.com/r2n8z58.jpeg)
Also Yukihiro and Kisara are now in that casual flirting phase and I 100% all for these two getting together now.
And the fact that that isn't the weirdest thing said or done in the show says a lot.
The in-universe explanation would be the typical psychology thing of people choosing their romantic partners that resemble their parents, especially if they have a good relationship with them.
The likely explanation is that the author had problems drawing a different enough woman, unless we find out some twist that Mari and Tsunagu's mom are distantly related.
I honestly feel like it's one of my favorite romance series and does a lot of things others don't or take much longer to do. Really good and naturally paced romantic progression all around, and wholesomeness without needing to pretend physical attraction doesn't exist. Plus the continuing narrative thread of Beast folk and how they're treated by humans (and vice versa) helps establish a stronger intention to everything.
We also got the mom this episode (which is what I expected and she's the MC from the original series) and even another "moon is beautiful," to make those hints even "hintier." If a season 2 is ever greenlit I'll be ecstatic, hopefully by the same team. I'd suggest anyone who enjoyed the anime to pick up the manga. It has an official English license and is ongoing.
Kisara based with the (probably less than accidental) literary love confession and her on-point outfit game.
I would love a season 2 so we can get more KisaraxYukihiro and for Mari and Tsunagu to capitalize on her basically telling him he can have his way with her lol.
I’ve seen a few beastfolk x human romances, but none set in a high school. This wasn’t half bad overall. Not sure if we’re getting another season, but this was enjoyable.
How can you not support who adorable these two are together? Even other kids are drinking the lovey-dovey kool aid lol.
Many parents unfortunately believe their kids to be flawless angels who can do no wrong so I expected her to cover for her son, but I'm glad she didn't. Maybe she already knew his crappy personality and when he finally made a big blunder, she wasn't surprised.
Would have liked less love triangle and more side ship early on but maybe in a future season!
Likeable cast and cute romantic moments made this a nice watch.
Even in the finale we've got Tsunagu licking her tears and another passionate makeout session between the two of them! Mari basically even said she's down for sex at the end lol.
>Would have liked less love triangle and more side ship early on but maybe in a future season!
I do appreciate how Yukihiro and Kisara didn't end up being the pushy love rival types and actually turned out to be really supportive and nice to the bitter end. They genuinely deserve each other, in a good way.
When in doubt, always count on best bro Yukihiro! And Best Girl Kisara, who uses legal means (AKA having Tsunagu's mom pull strings) to get Yukihiro inside the walls after hours so he could give Tsunagu a good talking to as his best friend. Because it's time to stop dwelling on being a Beastperson, stop dwelling on what ifs, and start doing what Tsunagu WANTS to do and be true to himself.
Yukihiro and Kisara work well together...and are surprisingly flirty with each other as well. Kisara can't keep her tail away from his hand...and she's willing to lend him her shoulder as well.
Of course Mari is there as well and having a one-on-one with Tsunagu's mom, as she appreciates all that Mari (and the class) have done for her son and how much Mari clearly loves him. I mean, enough for to declare she'll make him happy (which is practically a proposal) right when he's shown up to hear it. Mari definitely has the mom thumbs up seal of approval to be with her son!
Mari and Tsunagu are finally together again so they can kiss, Tsunagu can lick her tears, and finally put into words what they really want as Tsunagu formally asks Mari to be her official boyfriend! Finally, they're an official couple, and they seal it with a kiss and a romantic embrace!
Sure there are still some at school who are wary of Tsunagu...but there's no situation Mari and Tsunagu can't hold their hands through together!
I'm glad even Kinari's mom could tell her son really screwed up, to the point where he'll deny reality to avoid any sense of wrongdoing for his actions, but now he might understand how the Beastfolk feel to be ostracized and judged for a past "sin!"
I love how what seems to be winning people over is how lovey-dovey Tsunagu and Mari are. Even their class cemented their faith in Tsunagu after seeing all that handholding! And we even end on a full circle moment of Tsunagu helping Mari past the school gate, just like they've helped each other past all the boundaries that would keep them apart.
And also count on these two to have Tsunagu ask how far he can go as her boyfriend...and Mari basically giving him carte blanche to do whatever he wants.
It's really nice to see that Kisara has basically officially joined the friend group. Soon enough the group might become a double dating pair.
I will particularly miss the trio of friends that is Mari, Tsunagu and Yukihiro, it's unfortunate for Yukihiro that the ship has sailed and so my ship has also sunk but it looks like something is building between him and Kisara. I like that Yukihiro was the one to push Tsunagu, he always prioritized making Mari happy.
I'm glad Kinari will be facing some punishment and that a lot of people in school are looking favorably at the couple's relationship. It'll be interesting to see in a new season what sort of trouble they'll face for being a couple openly.
It was nice to see Tsunagu's mother and how she's given her approval, I can't see why she wouldn't since she seems to be living happily in the beastfolk town. It was cute to finally see Tsunagu and Mari making it official.
Mari's comment at the end was amusing, she better her brace herself.
We saw his mom! We saw my girl!
I want to burn the government to the ground for what they’re doing to an innocent child 😃
KisaHiro, or YukiSara? What sounds better? 🤔
This was my sign to read <Purple Hyacinth>, I think.
His tail wagging 🥹
The tail and “if it’s you it’s okay” and his head in her shoulder and him holding her tail gently and I am ^(screaming)
Take that thumbs up, girl.
Does Eguchi do fan events where he says the most romantic shit and makes us all swoon? 👉🏾👈🏾
The tail wag have mercy 😭
With them fuckass bangs, fuck you, Kinari.
Aaaaaahhhhhh and we come back to their initial meeting in a reprise!
Epilogue in the credits!
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**Series Discussion**
I enjoyed this immensely. Eguchi did a fantastic job as Tsunagu, and the growling was top-notch. But I really enjoyed the friendship between Yuki and Tsunagu. As much as I loved the romance, their “bromance” was what I wanted more of, and the friendships between the group as a whole.
Male VAs have been a treat this week. Daisuke Ono and Eguchi on Sunday. Then today with HudCon for Ember & Ice and Eguchi for this. Living for it.
I’m a little sad that there was no more growling at the end, but this was a watch I’d recommend to someone if they enjoyed <Sacrificial Princess and the King of Beasts> or <Kamisama Kiss>.
But at least Hana gave Mari her thumbs up 👍🏾
- [Suddenly, Yukihiro in the window!](https://i.imgur.com/3t3fdP8.png) [](#flyingbunsofdoom) I guess [he called in a favor with Kisara.](https://i.imgur.com/AhrriHP.png)
- [Ooh, nice shimmering sky.](https://i.imgur.com/0Ohytcz.png) [](#neat)
- [Yeah Tsunagu definitely needed to hear this.](https://i.imgur.com/QouvD3a.png)
- [Tsunagu “sore demo”!](https://files.catbox.moe/svx2jw.mp4)
- [Hooray!](https://i.imgur.com/2ZoH5OT.png) [](#urarahype)
- [Ooh, Mari’s talking to Tsunagu’s mom?](https://i.imgur.com/rQhaEp4.png) [](#curious)
- [*Damn*, talk about forward.](https://i.imgur.com/d4DYAKj.png) [](#forbiddenlove)
- [Another shimmering sky!](https://i.imgur.com/8iR9Mk3.png)
- [Ooooh, a *double* “sore demo” from Mari!](https://files.catbox.moe/or4jg0.mp4) [](#seasonalhype)
- [I’m just getting all of the shimmering skies from this finale too, sweet.](https://i.imgur.com/VX7aeOt.png)
- [Let’s go!](https://i.imgur.com/BtKcZJ4.png) [](#teekyuuhype)
- [Another Mari “sore demo”!](https://files.catbox.moe/36xw0d.mp4)
- [Geez, and then another *double* “sore demo” from her not even ten seconds later!](https://files.catbox.moe/2p73x4.mp4)
- [Because it fucking *was*, you jackass.](https://i.imgur.com/ppYDqPU.png) [](#bruh)
- [And there’s yet *another* “sore demo” from Mari this episode!](https://files.catbox.moe/edkab6.mp4)
- [Lovely way to book end the show.](https://i.imgur.com/W0zILFd.png) [](#mayushii)
They are officially boyfriend and girlfriend 😭
Yukihiro and Kisara got closer 😭
Both crossed/climbed a wall to be together
I need a Season 2 !!! Please 🙏😭
I really thought we'd get them holding hands at the end too, but a little soon for that, I guess. Yukihiro is still not over Mari - that look he gave them when Mari and Tsunagu held hands at school went straight to my heart. Move on soon, lad, and get with the cute cat girl!
Glad things worked out for our main couple. Tsunagu's mom coming in clutch was unexpected. Interesting that a human is the director of the beastperson protection bureau. And my god, is she beautiful!
Loved this show so much. Would love to see more of it. There hasn't been a season 2 announcement yet, has there? Hope it comes soon. A rare mature story of teenage love in a medium where even adults are shown acting childish. Want more such stories, please!
In the original series, she joined the bureau to become a teacher for the kids in the beast people town. It wouldn't surprise me if she got promoted to the director spot at some point in the intervening years, especially if she and Papa Hidaka got officially married (but definitely once she got pregnant). It makes sense to have someone who has ties to the beast people world but isn't visibly a beast person to deal with politics.
Oh yeah! Maybe that's why she let him lay his head on her shoulder too? Because she could sense he was into her.
[Yukihiro sneak in beastfolk town](https://i.imgur.com/KwoXKS0) with [Kisara's help (cute)](https://i.imgur.com/y7lFMdF)
I love these [couple so much!](https://i.imgur.com/7qqwiDv) (want [more moment of them](https://i.imgur.com/6EVSRVb))
[Kisara are so kawaii](https://i.imgur.com/r5pEMhz)
That so sweet for [Yukihiro and Kisara](https://i.imgur.com/xsnYU9H) (look so cute when He grab her tail haha)
[Mari meet Tsunagu's mother ](https://i.imgur.com/L0ldcMM)(they look like twin when stay together LMAO)
[Mother approve!!](https://i.imgur.com/cN5qgJo) LOL
Love how [chibi tsunagu lick Mari's tear](https://i.imgur.com/8Tgqfcy) (so cute)
Hell yeah!! they finally become [an offical lover!!](https://i.imgur.com/VvBPTLd) [congratulation!!](https://i.imgur.com/p8J6b68)
ahhh.....[so romantic](https://i.imgur.com/ZKLoIIr) and [sweet](https://i.imgur.com/ay3PXdw)
fuck off [newpapers guy](https://i.imgur.com/lNAZUKq), you deserve that
[Let's climb over it together!](https://i.imgur.com/KtE1Jus) [(different POV from Eps 1)](https://i.imgur.com/v9QMSjN)
And [end credits.........](https://i.imgur.com/HknHyYu) (damn i want more [Kisara](https://i.imgur.com/d60OLQM) & [Yukihiro](https://i.imgur.com/kanS4mr) moment 😭😭😭)
Fin
Overall is ~~9/10~~ (no! definitely 10/10 for me LMAO)
I will miss this series so much 😭😭😭😭😭. I hope for SS2 because i want to see more Yukihiro and Kisara moment (please be it, please be it, please be it...🛐🛐🛐)
PS. Ahhhh... I definitely want season 2 so bad (like i wish for the fragrant flower blooms with dignity have ss2 as well 🙏 🙏)
Dog jokes aside, this actually was a really good romance. I liked the two leads, and the story was well done.
I would go as far as to say that this was one of the best series of the season.
Like aggretsuko but in high school and with romance
And so into the finale.
Oh yeah that's his mum.
What's he doing here?
So, she's the one who got him in.
Seems she pulled some strings to do that.
So, what's he got to say?
Ok...
So, he's just going to wait for everything to blow over.
They certainly are rather lively...
Oh she's here?
And so he's back with her.
Bruh she said that.
And so she's meeting with his mum.
And now he's back.
So, he's said it.
And so they're back in school, now as a couple.
And so that guy finally got his comeuppance.
And so, an interesting and beautiful furry romance. 8/10.
Okay to be fair the first episodes were a lot hornier lol. I'm not into that but I appreciate the story not shying away from it and at the same time not letting that become the whole story and writing a pretty compelling romance with a seldom seen plot and thematic on top. Better than most romcom of romance drama easily.
Though Id gratefully watch a S2 I'm not really expecting it so I'm getting into the manga.
Wouldn’t mind a Yukihiro and Kisara spin-off.
I kind of hate this time of year, because I have trouble keeping track of what shows still have new episodes and what shows wrapped up. Forgot we still had one episode to go.
Yay...more Kisara and Yukihiro. I don't know why but I am more invested in their relationship than I am in the main couple. Maybe its because the main couple is the main couple and so duh they are going to hook up. Or maybe I just like catgirls
Is tail holding less or more intimate than hand-holding? need to know how obscene that scene was.
Okay so Tsunagu has an Oedipal complex huh. I was confused and thought maybe we were getting a flash-forward, since his mom and Mari are virtually identical outside of some slight differences from age. Weird choice but I guess maybe its just the author really liking that design.
We get our official confession, but it kind of doesn't hit the same when the two involved people have already practically been dry-humping
Scummy Newsguy gets some come-uppance. My head cannon is that Silver-haired guy and maybe some other guys from their class jumped him in an alleyway sometime after this. I am sure he has a long and productive career ahead of him at TMZ however.
still vastly prefer sacrificial princess though, by like 100x, but that's more about how good sacrificial princess is than trying to slag off this one.
I think it was a good conclusion, it tied up what it needed to tie up in a fair way, gives a potential second season leeway, Tsunagu and Mari are officially official, Kisara and Yukihiro are making their way there,
I'm really going to miss this weekly, it's crazy twelve weeks really did pass just like that, I really wanted to see more of his dad, in all his glory,
Update: I... I... I CAN'T READ MANGA BRO NOOO!!!ooooo.... I'm so fucking sad bro... So many websites were RAW. I finally found ONE and ONLY ONE, that's in English. But the problem is... IT'S ONLY AT CHAPTER 17 BUT EPISODE 12TH ENDED AT CHAPTER 23!!! WHICH MEANS I HAVE TO WAIT AN EXCRUCIATING LONG TIME TIL SOMEONE TRANSLATES CHAPTER 24!!!! Please... If anyone knows a website I can read the latest chapters... Let me know..... If only I knew Japanese, this wouldn't be a problem... (T ~ T)
The fact that Kinari is "on leave," instead of being flat out expelled does kind of tell me he'll probably be back. Asking if he wanted to be a beast person was unexpected (I'd probably say yes for obvious reasons), that and them dealing with prejudice and isolation made him realize how in the wrong he was and admitted it off-screen. Props to his mom for not immediately taking his side too. Well, if he does come back, hopefully he'd learn his lesson and try to make amends.
I don't look at much romance and no denying that the fact the male lead is a dog is what caught my interest. Do think it's funny how people mocked how Hidaka looked like some furry YCH template in a lot of art, but now I think his simple design works really well. Plus he's blue and stands out compared to most of the other beast people. Some scenes where things got a little heated were a bit odd to watch considering they're both 15-16 years old, but I get why. Overall, I enjoyed it and hope there's a season 2. AFAIK, there's no official translations and I don't think the fan translations are that far, last I check.
I do legit think there should be more series with anthro characters like this and Beastars. Nothing wrong with Kemonomini, but let's mix it up some more, y'know?
Thanks!
It would seem Mrs. Hidaka is the only human living in beastperson town and she would understand a cross romance better than anyone. This made me question though if Mr. Hidaka is still married to her/lives with them because he should have figured it out when Asaka visited their house and he might be able to smell a human. Also i wonder if her position as a beastperson relations liason is a job or just a volunteer position.
When Kisara said the only place open in their town that late was bars it really made it seem like major businesses you'd see all around Japan wouldn't be there, like 7-11 or McDonald's. I remember how I thought it was interesting when they showed the town during the day and there was just tons of independent small shops like an old European village but I realized it may not be their choice to have things that way.
I also how it ended with opinion still very divided with the students, with some being glad Tsunagu ended up being treated fairly and others who just believe what they want about him, that seems the most realistic way things would go. It was also interesting that they explained why the beastpeople live behind walls is because they were angry about being forcibly experimented on and attacked some humans and the people there now just have to pay the price for the forseeable future.
Few comments here and there, though, about this being the final episode. Is that typical of an anime series? More importantly, is this really the last episode?
Anime is usually released in 12 episode cours within set seasons. So winter runs from January to March, spring from April to June, summer from July to September, and fall from October to December. Sometimes shows will run for two cours, like how Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider started in October and is going to run through next season to end in March, or two split cours, so one half in winter and the other half in summer, for example. They order anime one season at a time, though, and the majority only ever get one cour.
So I guess this really is the final episode for now.
How soon can viewers find out if an anime will get renewed for another season?
The English translation for the manga is currently behind where the anime ended, though. So no new material available there yet.
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Few things to go over in the finale. 1: really proud of Yukihiro for putting his personal feelings aside and supporting Hidaka, going as far to literally slap some sense into him so he would go after Mari. Yukihiro genuinely cares about her so much and I really respect that. He and Kisara will make a great couple eventually.
Hidaka’s mom is so pretty, but it’s totally not coincidence that Mari looks just like her is it? Some Freudian psychology at play here with Hidaka falling for someone that looks just like his mom, lmao??
Kisara getting all bashful about Yukihiro holding her tail, help they’re actually so cute?? 🥺I’m ngl I’m probably not reading the manga, but I hope they end up happy together. Even if things moved super fast in this series, idk the ships just hit lol. I’ll miss them.
I’m annoyed that they let the journalist dude off with just a “leave of absence” tho after he slandered Hidaka and Mari and surely violated school rules and probably the law, not to mention he never even took accountability for his actions and denied them until the end??
“How far can I go as your boyfriend” “as far as you like” lmao WHY ARE THEY SO HORNY ?! Such good ending, I like the symbolism of Hidaka and Mari climbing the wall to go to school there at the end as well because if you recall earlier in the season, Hidaka said he saw walls as doors to another world rather than things to separate people. Nice way to bring everything together! I’ll miss this show
[review](https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=588034)
For those curious
[Gachiakuta](https://anilist.co/anime/178025/Gachiakuta)
[Our love will make it through](https://anilist.co/anime/186161/Kimi-to-Koete-Koi-ni-Naru)
[SANDA](https://anilist.co/anime/179302/SANDA)
[May I ask for one final thing](https://anilist.co/anime/181447/Saigo-ni-Hitotsu-dake-Onegai-Shite-mo-Yoroshii-Deshou-ka)
[Ranma](https://anilist.co/anime/185731/Ranma-12-2024-2nd-Season)
[Dark History](https://anilist.co/anime/174914/Tensei-Akujo-no-Kuro-Rekishi)
And yes, the moon was indeed beautiful, Kisara! Good job with the successful confession (and was that Kansai-ben I hear?). I have no doubt Yukihiro will warm up to your tail very soon.
Last but definitely not least, Hidaka, how far can you go with Mari? How far have you already gone even before becoming official?! Your tongue's gonna be reeeaal busy!
Great show! Straight into my collection.
Overall, I actually liked it. It's the typical boy meets girl shoujo romance story and I honestly found it endearing. I even read the prequel manga with Tsunagu's parents and liked it as well.
"As far... as you'd like?"
Cheeks. Clapped
- The catgirl: [entering](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/809/529/721/565/126/original/2a5f1be3d3017653.png), [sitting](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/809/529/923/981/126/original/048ff462d67523b2.png), [waiting](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/809/530/257/981/686/original/075102adcd039dc9.png)
- Mommy: [smiling](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/809/532/607/803/377/original/86cf5c39d59e631c.png), [thinking](https://s3.eu-central-2.wasabisys.com/twiukraine/media_attachments/files/115/809/532/924/057/433/original/d52725e0c39b38cb.png)