Yuusha Party wo Oidasareta Kiyou binbou • Jack-of-All-Trades, Party of None - Episode 1 discussion
*Yuusha Party wo Oidasareta Kiyou binbou*, episode 1
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>"She created the idea of having different party members having different roles"
>"In the dungeons, you need to defeat the floor bosses to go deeper."
Does the author think nobody in the audience has ever played a party-based RPG before? Like, all of this should be common sense. You don't need to keep explaining standard RPG mechanics.
We are watching Saturday morning cartoons (at least I hope so, because the writing sucks balls).
From what I gather, this looks like animation studio42’s first series. Kind of keen to see how this thing turns out.
It's using CGI for the right reasons: to show motion. It's not overly using it for 100% of the fight scenes like that one anime from 2-3 season's ago who can only cast debuff magic. But it's using it suplimentary to fill in the gaps and it actually looks *decent*. So, since its brief and actually looks *pretty* similar to the animation style I think it is one of the most well-done CGI in a "lower budget" anime
Akira Oda (same voice) but instead of an Assassin Build he's a pure swordsman with an Enchanting sub-specialty.
- MC gets kicked out of the hero's party
- saves cute girl
- things happen and how he's joining some other people who will most likely value him more than his previous teammates.
Let's see how many episodes till his former teammates come back begging him to join them again.
I imagine the reason the blue-haired girl in their party wasn't there was because she either was not in on kicking him out or wasn't a hater.
I guess it's because if they don't paint a villain, you don't sympathize with the MC.
Hell even the hostility from the Tank and Mage was hilariously done. The mage is mad at him for telling them what to do yet the person WHO CREATED THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE OF PARTIES AND THE REASON THEY ARE KICKING HIM was also an enchanter that commander them. So do they just not like his face or something? The author tried way too hard to pander here and he undermined his own story. I've always said that you can tell the quality of the stories by how they handle removing the MC from the party but fortunately I am wrong here and this one from what I remember, is ok.
While the other two are egotistic and probably drunk on the fame of being the Hero Party. The MC is not on their rank and holding them back from getting more fame and riches. "absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Also said cute girl has a bustier older sister and both are already fixated/flirting with him as early as the first episode.
Wait, why was the sister of the best enchanted in the world, who's already in a guild, partied with nobodies.
"W-wait, w-what?!"
And then comes running back begging HIS party to give him a second chance XD.
Another anime that does an episode 1 pants pull is "Yuki Bakukatsu Bang Bravern". This one is just legendary. The first 2-4 episodes are quite hilarious.
I love it when a "cheesy" trope gets flipped into a mean spirited surprise.
Lol there are actually quite a few of these now. Another funny one is where the MC TRIES to get kicked but everyone (especially the hero) likes him too much and he is very competent lol.
That girl also said the MC likes to give orders, so chances are MC contributes a lot in other ways like tactically.
*Or* to kill him.
The series began on the Japanese self-publishing site Shōsetsuka ni Narō 5 years ago this Feb. 5. Just how many titles on that site have gotten anime adaptations? Accuracy of the page factored in, [wikipedia.org/wiki/Shōsetsuka\_ni\_Narō](http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Shōsetsuka_ni_Narō) currently has 199 titles that have gotten anime adaptations.
This is something both he and the party acknowledge.
It's a small straw to grasp at but it's something.
[](#elves)
Ah, Mejiro Mcqueen... and her little sister in this show is Satono Diamond. 🤣
I usually avoid anime where the protagonist is kicked out of a party, but like a few others I've enjoyed, this one started at a slow and interesting pace. The protagonist hasn't yet shown his full power or taken revenge on the other members; he simply understood his worth and is going to start his life anew, and I think that's cool.
For now, I intend to continue watching.
They both even acknowledge his weaknesses due to being multi class instead of dedicated to a single role.
The party tank also seemed pretty happy they were kicking him out too.
\-Mon.: "My Hero Academia: Vigilantes 2"\*; "Golden Kamuy Final Season"\*
\-Tues.: "Osananajimi to wa LoveCom"\*; "Yūsha Party"\*
\-Wed.: "Jack-of-All-Trades"\*; "Tune In to the Midnight Heart"\*
\-Thu.: "Classless Hero" Eng. dub; "Dusk Beyond the End of the World" Eng. dub
\-Fri.: "Fire Force Final"\*
\-Sat.: "Yūsha-kei ni Shosu"\*, "A Misanthrope Teaches"\*
\*Means I will also watch the simuldub.
Besides, a jack-of-all-trades that can do EVERYTHING at A-rank sounds plenty OP to me.
"I apologize; we replaced you."
That said, I don't want to be caught praising this. It has nothing going for it.
Gideon/Red, anyone? :P
So I actually didn't mind how it went down, our MC knows he isn't useless and the party he left will be fine without him. I think this is the fresher take on "being kicked out"
The only mistake they are making is that he was clearly the strategist as well. Feels implied there is a strong adherence to class split specialties vs combo.
I agree with you, who wouldn't want an A/A strategist!! Promising 1st episode!
And then with the other party he met, it's not like they intentionally left the girl behind, the leader prioritize his close friends over a new member in a no-win situation, and if Orhun was S-rank, he must have seen it happen before at least once, so I think he was being unnecessarily angry. Looking down on them for being weak, when he himself was looked down on for being weak.
Though I haven't finished the episode yet, so my opinion may change
What gave you this idea? There's no signs of a battle at all and the girl held off all by herself for how long? Sounds like they didn't even consider some basic defense into retreat but just ran the moment they smelled a tougher enemy than a rat.
His first reaction when somebody points it out is to rage and punch them. Very lovely people indeed.
Don't forget that he got kicked out of his party about 24 hours beforehand, so he's definitely still deep in his feelings about it.
It's only unfortunate that it wasn't enough for him to get hit with that fantasy staple: getting kicked out of the Hero's Party. the worst part is his own best friend since childhood, Oliver (Yoshiki Nakajima) is kicking him to the curb though at least he's nicer about it compared to Ameli and Derrick who really try to rub it in how useless they think he is in the party now that they're making a name for themselves. Even after he went to the trouble of converting himself to the Enchanter class and trying to make up for his and the parties' deficiencies, they're still going to replace him.
Also, being called a "Jack of All Trades" REALLY should not be seen as an insult, I'm just saying.
So of course he also probably has some sensitivity to getting abandoned, so when he realized another party left a girl who wasn't part of the childhood friend group die, he can't help but save her! Enter the cute and sweet Sophia Claudel (Hina Tachibana!)!
Dang, Sophia works fast! Orhun saves her once and she's already smitten and asking him out to dinner.
Turns out not only is Sophia part of one of the top guilds in the city, but she's also the little sister to Selma Clauden (Saori Onishi!) the busty prodigy enchanter who basically is THE enchanter and set up the current battle assortment for all parties. And she's also really overprotective of her sister, like "my sister can't have a boyfriend" and "any man who isn't interested in my sister is trash" level of overprotective. But at least she's fair enough to recognize that Orhun deserves thanks for saving her.
Ironically Selma being as good as she is is part of why Orhun got kicked out, because he couldn't measure up to her as an Enchanter, but Selma respects Orhun professionally enough to want to recruit him to help a bunch of rookie members trek through the dungeon on a teaching expedition. Though obviously Orhun isn't in any rush to be in a party again.
All the same, he can't completely resist the sisters' charms, whether it be Selma holding his hand or Sophia giving him puppy dog eyes'. Though I wonder how Selma will react when she realizes Orhun has no intention of shifting away from being a swordsman now?
I'm glad Orhun has his old man buddy (Chafurin?). Even when he's not a "Hero" any more who can get the guys' shop publicity, he's still grateful and respectful towards Orphus and understands how good a guy he is...and Orhun really needed that emotional validation if he was going to move on with his life. Starting off with his new party with the Claudel sisters!
The OP is pretty on-point for a fantasy action show, featuring all the casts and implying a future conflict with Orhun' new party and the old one. Is the green-haired girl who they replaced him with?
The banishing felt different from the normal kind where the leader isn't insufferable, it did feel like it stung a bit more than usual. The dialogue between the two childhood friends felt a bit more real, so Orhun's pain felt more genuine.
The blushing and fanservice kind of threw me off a bit because of the tone that was set lol. Hopefully this will be an entertaining one, I do find it amusing Oliver is voiced by Nakajima Yoshiki who voiced Simon in A-Rank Party.
These get those people to keep paying the money.
People are buying these stories (in the form of light novels, manga adaptations, and maybe merchandise).
How is this formula sustainable
and yea there are outliers, but those aired already so we’re now getting an influx of the mediocre ones.
"Jinshi-sama"
Everyone is talking about the episode, I just want to talk about Tsukasa-sensei getting the starring role in yet another Lit-RPG. Looking forward to watching the upcoming studio GoHands adaptation of "Heavy Knight".
I am frustrated to see so little glazing/simping over Tsukasa in this comments section. For shame.
edit : fixed a typo
I'd describe this more like "lowering my standards to meet this thing halfway" rather than "hope".
Episode 1 shows us that this is the exact same story and a cheap anime adaptation, watch the animation budget run out of steam in the second half of the cour, overly fast pacing, and a dull episode 12 climax.
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At the end it shows the full title which is "YUUSYA Party..." not Yuusha 😩
Going off what we see in the ED/OP at the end, his “party of none” status won’t last very long. And his former party is insanely stupid to give up someone who’s apparently A-rank in pretty much every aspect. His childhood friend seemed like he was pressured into kicking MC out though.
At least his former party wasn’t extremely nasty about booting him out like how it is in some of the other banished from the party anime.
I am a little confused about the situation with the girl he rescued. She was abandoned by the low rank party but later says she entered the dungeon by herself
That said, if the person they used as a reference for MC being "weak" actually admires MC, they will have a surprise soon.
This anime is nothing new, but I liked the way it was executed, ngl
Fights were decent, EXCEPT he had to start the rescue fight in fuckin reverse grip. WHY, just WHY.
...you are not deny the allegations there my man
Onee san you gotta work harder
He blushed too
Old man at the end was nice, sometimes you just need to talk to a wiser and older acquaintance.
Kind of weird that Selma is who came up with the party organization system in the first place, but I suppose someone would have had to develop it. Seems oddly recent for a world with an established adventurers and dungeons system.
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Animation seems solid, story line is generic, mood seems good. Ill let it cook, see how it does for the rest of the season.
Jack of all trades, master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one
However, "master of none" was also an addition (18th century), with "jack of all trades" being a compliment that dates back to at least the early 17th century.
For every single one of those, the short version came first, and then received an extension/modification to it decades or centuries later
Been getting real sick of shows where the hero's party is comically dumb and fires their support out of a mix of ego, not understanding team comp, or not realizing that their support member was well above average.
It's a low bar, but at least they cleared it on this one.
"...Yeah"
...But she didn't? She went in with a party that abandoned her? Guess we're not mentioning that to her. Like they mentioned without the clan's permission so that's not technically what they meant by alone anyway but seems like a strange thing to just brush over. Well, right afterwards he also talked as if he was the one that decided to leave the party rather than getting kicked out. Maybe it's just intentional that characters don't want to mention things here.
Historically, Jack of all trades is meant to be someone that is an expert on everything, before the true meaning was lost and it became a jack of all trades master of none. Pretty sure the MC is OP.
"She's the one who made enchanters famous, ***AND CREATED THE IDEA OF DIFFERENT PARTY MEMBERS HAVING DIFFERENT ROLES***." excuse me????? how did adventurers - or any organization at all - get ANYTHING DONE before this?????? how did NO ONE come up with the idea of organizing a group by task assignment before??????
boy oh boy how myopic must the worldbuilding be
"Did you go to the dungeon alone?" "yeah" no????? no she didn't????? I'm pretty sure she went with a party??????? -- oh without telling her clan............... i guess.
He can continue to spam it, but he has to keep an eye on the time. This is what he was talking about in that scene. Having to think a lot more than others.
>"Did you go to the dungeon alone?" "yeah" no????? no she didn't????? I'm pretty sure she went with a party??????? -- oh without telling her clan............... i guess.
It was pretty obvious that she didn't want to mention that information since her sister would skin them alive. Its really not that hard to understand.
Yeah? And? He said it doesn't last forever and it doesn't. Once it runs out it runs out.
Being able to recast a spell either right after or just before it runs out isn't the same as it lasting forever
And yes I am aware I am part of the problem lol.
I really hope if there is a primary love interest, it's the older sister and the youngling just has a crush.
The one part I did like that I didn't predict was how it seemed like Sophia was abandoned by her party but she actually went into the dungeon alone and that party was more just wracked with guilt that they probably weren't strong enough to take on that many monsters to save her and they may have all or mostly ended up dead. They didn't do that much with that though, like making Sophia a dangerous lunatic who goes off on her own and puts herself in constant danger, it seems she just more made a stupid mustake and lucked out having Orhun save her.
Also, why in every one of these shows does the party that kicked the person out have to be super mean to him for no reason? Oliver was more diplomatic but the other guy and girl were just rude and mean to him for no reason. I know it's to make you dislike the original party, but it's so lazy and overdone. It's like akin to a band firing one of their members because they want someone better; they aren't as mean to the person as possible.
Maybe this show appeals more to people who just love fantasy shows about adventurers in dungeons but not much meat on the bone.
Least there wasn’t much drama on the kicking out of party but hilarious they did so after comparing him to the best enchanter in the world who invented the party roles system. The same enchanter who he worked on the raid who rated his skills highly … and he isnt even specialised at the role and only did it cos noone else was able to and invented original magic to do so 🤦♂️getting beast tamer vibes where they will be shown moaning at the new enchanter why they cant do xyz and itll be “but no enchanter can do that”
First 2 mins. Hey it's Kirito Kicked from the Heros Party.
Sure to be an original...
My favourite story of all time starts off super generic and bland for at least the first 20-30 hours. But even then it was pretty solid. I genuinely don't think the material needs to be unique for it to be good.
I'm not asking to like it, there's not much to discuss for a single episode afterall, but the general view seems very bad. or those willing to drop or not watch based on someone's opinion who hasn't even read the manga.
Saves cute girl who start crushing on him
He joins another group who will most likely value him more than his previous teammates.
🙄 Aha shit here we go again.
One thing that immediately made no sense again is how his ex-party couldn't compute how useful an A-Rank multitalent is. Why not just hire the specialist enchanter in addition to him and make him a fighter with bonus support skills? That was so dumb. It's not like they had to carry him through the dungeon, then it would've been understandable at least.
No source reader here, but these formulas are just so generic that I bet this will happen:
They will later find out that his specially invented enchantment magic is actually better than what other enchanters use. And during the raid, the top enchanter girl performed worse than Orhun and his party blamed it on him because he was self-taught so he obviously had to be not as good as a real enchanter. And it will make absolutely no sense again for him to be so oblivious about how other enchanters perform to even argue the point. lol
I loved how the big sister casually explained the common mmo carry methods. Except they don't seem to have levels in this setting which means the low levels/newcomers don't get actual fighting experience from sitting out the boss fights. Won't they just be screwed on the lower floors by themselves if they got carried there?! What could possibly go wrong? lol
Love the Song!
started watching this only because of her and so far the story seems..okay