Watashi ga Koibito ni Nareru Wake Nai jan, Muri Muri! (※Muri ja Nakatta!?) (Zoku-hen)) • There's No Freaking Way I'll be Your Lover! Unless... (Sequel) - Episode 13 discussion
*Watashi ga Koibito ni Nareru Wake Nai jan, Muri Muri! (※Muri ja Nakatta!?) (Zoku-hen))*, episode 13
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Kaho gets the spotlight! Renako is conflicted with choosing one and so Renako and Kaho get into an argument. But they make up with Kaho hugging Renako whilst rotating 360 degrees around her!
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The childhood friend has entered the arena
The hip transfer student is the stick.
Renako's self-loathing is on full display this episode now that she's forced to confront her feelings. Good thing the wild card Kaho is here to save the day. The way she went from friend, to enemy, and back to friend so quickly was funny. And Ajisai's panic when she heard Rena was confessing to Kaho too lmao.
Renako as well, nearly. Kaho is terrifying. She doesn't appear to have any issues with letting the intrusive thoughts win.
No contest!
The bit with the rock, but also just her mannerism ("really really really really really?"), her random lines/outbursts "I DON'T CAREEEEEE!", girl's hilarious!
I was sad that Kaho had so little screentime during the season. Give her one proper episode and I already love her. I guess now Kaho is the childhood friend and all the other girls are dorobonekos? Childhood friend, secret otaku, street fighter, and [talented gymnast](https://i.imgur.com/KlPoPB0.jpeg).
> Three years
For a second there I was worried we'd have another Straw Hat timeskip.
> I wish I could be the bright, proactive, and strong girl you think I am.
Nobody's asking you to. Especially these girls now. So you put on a front for your own "selfish" reasons for wanting friends/companionship. You're hardly the first person to do that. Not even counting Kaho by the sound of it. I wouldn't say that's selfishness, regardless of what your initial reasons for doing it was, that's just a facet of the human condition of putting yourself out there and getting to know people. You'll find in life that there are fewer truly selfless reasons and motivations for doing things than you think there are. And even if this was an act of selfishness initially, can you truly look at yourself and how far you've come now and say that you still are.
Easy there Kaho, don't give Ajisai a heart attack with that confession talk.
Kaho considers that photo to be some kind of dark history enough to stone someone over. How very odd.
Nice toss Kaho. And headbutt.
I'm sure Kaho sees just how much this problem is hurting Renako, truly. But from a third party perspective she's kinda feeling like Renako is feeling bad about it for some of the wrong reasons out her own self-loathing. And I'm sure there's also a dash of that "Do you know how many people would kill to have the problem you're having right now?" feeling, herself included no doubt. And Kaho's feeling pissed at Renako acting like she doesn't *deserve* to have this problem, and those words about not wanting to hurt either of their feelings in the way that she said it ain't helping either. Lord knows how many protagonists dragged shit behind the boat and ended up hurting everyone's feelings, including their own, more using that excuse. Cuz all that stuff she just dumped on Kaho at the river is *exactly* the kind of stuff she should be expressing to both Mai and Ajisai.
Well they made up fast. Also wow, either Kaho or Renako have like 0 friction to them. Not even the slickest of dancing poles can give you that degree of spinning.
Death
Taxes
Ajisai suffering
Oddly, Renako getting sick with worry about two of her friends confessing to her speaks kind of well of her. I suspect that most people in her position with crippling inferiority complexes would be basking in the affirmation and seeking more of it. Meanwhile she's wracked with guilt because she feels like her masking has swindled her friends.
[I'm glad that Kaho is finally getting the spotlight here.](https://i.imgur.com/WHLoW0O.jpeg) I did not expect that she used to be like Rena, who changed her image with her high school debut. [Kaho's reaction when Rena showed her the photo was hilarious!](https://i.imgur.com/JQtFJCF.jpeg) She really thought Rena was trying to threaten her. It's nice to see [the two of them reconnect, tho!](https://i.imgur.com/UyU5gBp.jpeg)
[Kaho's reaction when she finally learned about Rena's problems was great too!](https://i.imgur.com/kBuanrx.jpeg) To someone like her, hearing about Rena's problem is like hearing someone complain that their steak is too juicy and their lobster is too buttery. Honestly, if Renako [really never wanted a girlfriend](https://i.imgur.com/XbtplBG.jpeg), she should just reject both.
Renako out here suffering from success
That's how it sounds from Kaho's and anyone else point of view.
>'Are you for real--just pick whoever!'
'If I pick one, the other will be sad!'
'So then pick A-chan! Then I'll comfort MaiMai when she gets sad!'
Totally not influenced by Kaho attending Mai's suitor-finding event...
These 5 sequel episodes are something that rarely happens with Anime these days. The studio decided to work on an additional amount of episodes because they couldn't just leave the story on a cliffhanger. Not only that, it was able to be shown in theaters for multiple weeks before airing all at once on TV for the new year. This shows how passionate the entire team at Studio Mother was. We really lucked out with them when it came to this adaptation.
The studio is a contractor paid to animate this, even when they are a shareholder, it is a really small investment and they barely have anything to say at all
Now, if they animate something else you like, don't expect the same treatment
>**Production Committee**
>SHUEISHA
>SHUEISHA DeNA Projects
>REMOW
and no one else
Just...150~ shows missing...
At least as the surprise childhood friend Kaho has already lost. Also she's kind of a nutcase.
Ajisai remains best girl.
From the outside looking, I can see why Kaho wouldn't care. Renako is at the buffet and Kaho has nothing. I get it.
Renako’s really gone and stepped in it now.
Okay, in all seriousness, watching her depressive episode is rough.
Seriously Haruna, boundaries, not cool.
Oh my god! Please tell me she didn’t actually forget all about her previous friend.
“I’m sorry for this Renacchi. You’ve discovered my secret and I can’t allow you to escape. No witnesses.”
I swear to god Renako. Stop complementing her, you’ve already got enough on your plate, you can’t get a third (or fourth depending on what you consider Satsuki as) involved with you.
“Renako, look out! There’s a demon behind you! Oh god, she’s powering up. Look at that menacing aura!”
Their fight is weird because half of it feels really funny and half of it extremely emotionally harrowing.
Satsuki, am I misunderstanding things or how is Kaho your employer? What the hell is she gonna ask Renako to do?
Ah yes, we’re back in familiar territory. I’ve read Bloom Into You, this is classic yuri “Don’t love me because I don’t love myself” stuff.
I wasn’t expecting the estranged childhood friends twist but sure, I’ll take it. I quite like it actually.
Might just be me but something about Kaho gives me off the vibes of an absolutely furious frog.
Being serious, I really like Renako’s and Kano’s dynamic. Feels like there’s a lot more of the true Renako than with the others because they know each other from before, are familiar with each other’s quirks and can talk without any lies between each other. It’s probably healthy for Renako tbh, to have someone to confide in. Especially when dealing with stuff like her extremely problematic love life. They’re also really funny together. I wonder if the “Renacchi… have you heard about mankind’s oldest weapon?” is going to become a running gag.
I wasn’t quite expecting it but Kaho might genuinely be my favorite queentet member as of now. She’s really funny and has a great dynamic with Renako. Excited to see more of her.
[Take it away, BBC](https://youtu.be/HBxn56l9WcU?si=u20fNTE8p2p9LCxQ)
- Haruna completely ignoring that depression
- Mai trying to be supportive while also respecting boundaries
- Satsuki casually flexing her superiority
- Kaho resorting to mankind's oldest weapon
- Ajisai briefly panicking as she thinks Renako might date yet another girl
We are back in full force!
Man talk about this series had reached the boiling point of Renako's stress, such a way to start this new year
YOU JUST HAD TO SAY YES
But oh man this started heavy. It was hard to see Renako relapse.
Kaho, this fucking brat turns out to be infuriating too. Enough time had happened since last episode that I only had fond memories of it and I forgot teeth grinding frustration is part of the appeal lol.
A bit of a recap, not sure how necessary that is considering the last episodes were just a few months ago.
Her steak is too juicy and her lobster is too buttery...
Lol Mai's reaction to her saying that to Ajisai.
3 _years_?
That's more reasonable.
Was she expecting Mai to kiss her lol.
Huh. What's up with her?
Ok...
And so she's going to look for photos.
Only in middle school lol.
It's Renako and her 2 girlfriends.
Oh, she knew that girl from before?
Or are they different people?
And so it's her turn to join the polycule.
So, she's going to ask her about that.
What's with the rock?
Ok...
So she _is_ the girl in that photo.
She's blushing!
And so now she's really become friends with her.
Lol her reaction to that information.
Her steak is too juicy and her lobster is too buttery...
Well, so much for becoming friends.
So, what's she thinking?
Ok...
Also, huge W to best imouto Haruna for replying to Mai and Ajisai for Renako and promising on her behalf that she'd be back at school. That social pressure is the only reason Renako went back and avoided relapsing back to her shut-in self.
[I just want to talk to her](#lolifightsback)
I was glad this show was back, but I'm not gonna lie, the first half of the episode was a mess for me. To the point where I cheered when Haruna and Kaho chose violence.
Kaho lamenting over being stressed when having to choose between shortcake and chocolate was hilarious.
Renako ep 12: I'm not gay, unless...
Renako ep 13: I have two girls who confessed to me and the only reason I can't date them is because I hate myself
I completely understand why Renako is completely conflicted about this but I will also say this is the first time I have ever watched a romance where someone goes into depression after being confessed to. Still Renako’s moments of self reflection and self hatred are great narrative wise and show her struggles with being extroverted and that she isn’t just messing around with the other girls and values them.
Haruna did well in answering the message but Renako was right in being mad at her regarding the pictures beforehand.
Kaho was great. She was pretty much a chaos gremlin. Wasn’t exactly a great friend in this episode but I got a giggle of her trying to kill Renako with the rock and being livid at Renako getting confessions from Ajisai and Mai.
Wait, what favor did she ask her for?
And about the episode itself, we started the Kaho arc and it started strong because the first thing she wants to do is kill Renako with a rock XD Even Satsuki didn't dare go that far. This was a great episode; I want to see more of this chaotic gremlin.
Obviously a TON of stuff to talk about here since it’s 5 episodes, but I’ll just go over the big themes and events that really struck a chord with me. I could yap about peak yuri all day.
Normally not a fan of the whole “I somehow forgot what my childhood best friend looked like” gimmick, but I’ll allow it here because Kaho’s arc is arguably the single most important part of this series to this point. Renako helping Kaho deal with her insecurities also helped her move past her own issues. Definitely need to see more Kaho, she’s such a sweetheart. I absolutely love the gap moe with her being this loud cheery extrovert with her contacts and a shy introvert just like Renako without them. I really wanted to see their relationship explored a little more, especially since they have so much history, but alas that’s for later volumes.
“I’m not into girls, why does no one believe me” GEE, I wonder why?? Totally nothing to do with you being a chronic girl kisser and making everyone fall in love lol.
Renako being a little insecure over her fupa when trying on the cosplay had me dying, girl we grown af bring that pudge over here. Acting surprised that everyone loves her when she’s built like THAT is crazy.
I generally really loved Renako’s inner conflict throughout these 5 episodes. That “I always say no” at the start of the episode really hurt me because I can really empathize with the way Renako felt her life was spiraling out of control and she had no say in anything that was going on as everyone was forcing their own feelings on her. Kaho showing up and helping her take her mind off things with the cosplay, and then Renako helping Kaho through her issues really provided the necessary refocusing she’d been craving.
I’m also so proud of Mai’s overall growth throughout this season. I was so hard on her from the start because of how much she forced herself on Renako and didn’t respect her boundaries, but I gained so much respect for how she was willing to put her personal feelings aside and let Renako make the best choice for HER. That’s what real love is about.
“I don’t care about being normal anymore. I’ll go out with both of you”
A mediocre het romance would’ve had the mc pick one and leave the other heartbroken. The based yuri polycule romance that Watanare is has Renako say screw that and pick both. This is the greed they talk about in the bible 😭
Such a massive moment for Renako’s character because she’s done with trying to fit in with her pre conceived notion of normality and is being selfish for the first time in her life. I’m so glad they adapted this because this is really her first big turning point and the start of the story! Really a great ending, again I could yap nonstop about this and I’ll probably make a longer video on the channel at some point, but I’m very happy with how this ended. Lesson of the series, fuck being normal, be yourself.