Watashi ga Koibito ni Nareru Wake Nai jan, Muri Muri! (※Muri ja Nakatta!?) (Zoku-hen)) • There's No Freaking Way I'll be Your Lover! Unless... (Sequel) - Episode 15 discussion
*Watashi ga Koibito ni Nareru Wake Nai jan, Muri Muri! (※Muri ja Nakatta!?) (Zoku-hen))*, episode 15
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Mai couldn't make it to the date with Renako and Ajisai at the amusement park. But it looks like they had a great time, especially on the Ferris wheel!
Harem route is still available!
tbh it felt a bit weird to have this sort of just declared by Kaho to be true, and Renako just accepted it like that when she's been agonizing over this the whole time
My reaction to the near-kiss on the ferris wheel: AHHHHHHH.
And Mai totally set up that date between Mai and Renako as expected, seems she's completely backing out of the race. Totally understandable from Mai's POV seeing Renako's response to Ajisai's confession when Mai has been chasing Renako for months.
Kaho's power comes from her colored contacts... although I couldn't tell a difference in eye color when her contacts were out? So at first I thought she was just tricking Renako into being assertive ~~a top~~, by acting ~~like a bottom~~ shy.
I guess this is the famous finger kiss scene people were talking about being hinted at in one of the PVs before the first season. It was great, but also, my heart hurts for Ajisai the most right now.
[This](https://imgur.com/a/cC1HBoL) is for sure the face of a girl in love who just got asked out. Also same, I feel bad for Mai but my heart is with Ajisai. Especially after it felt like she won at the end of S1.
Yeah from what I remember what she likes about Mai is that is takes what she wants and is good at being up front with people about her desires which Renako envies. Initially, I thought Kaho was like that too but now we're learning how that's more of a mask she wears which explains why Kaho likes Mai too probably for the same reason.
Oh, no, you're good. I meant that probably it'll make more sense after I watch the last two episodes, so what I wrote will be out-of-date then.
Cosplaying with Kaho has honestly given Renako a lot of insight into her own situation with Mai and Ajisai. She is telling Kaho to go the event even if she doesn't full worthy similar to how Renako herself can't fully accept Mai or Ajisai's love because she doesn't feel confident enough in herself. That's why I feel it's such a great reveal how Kaho has similar struggles with self-esteem despite appearing like a perfect social butterfly. Seeing her work hard despite that makes Renako want to support her and do the same.
I feel we are very close to having Renako accept Ajisai's [feelings](https://imgur.com/a/uNhOf5D). She doesn't just want things to remain the same anymore because to live is to keep moving forward.
Being more like Mai... yeah, probably a path best not traveled.
There we go, it's official. Renako is now 4 for 4 on the totally normal bathtimes with totally normal just friends.
Oh the not so subtle parallels between Kaho's cosplay summit insecurities and Renako's own insecurities.
Yay, Rema-Friend date with just Ajisai!!!
> I'm pretty used to surprises.
Well we all know that's not true.
Ooo, smooth move with the finger there Ajisai.
Come now Renako, you had to have seen Kaho asking you to join her at the summit coming.
* [Towel-Only Kaho](https://i.imgur.com/1PfMiQX.jpeg)
* [Ajisai & Renako](https://i.imgur.com/rLs8Xb8.jpeg)
So Kaho's entire persona is [just her cosplaying as an extrovert](https://i.imgur.com/lKd31pl.jpeg) and the second she removes her contacts, she's back to her original self.
With this episode, [Kaho has now officially bathed with all members of the Queentet.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/48ce0b8097f9.jpg) No kiss, tho! [But we did get Renako washing Kaho's back.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c75803b1a893.jpg)
[Renako and Ajisai's date was adorable](https://i.imgur.com/NGHcUTs.jpeg), but it's interesting to see how [Renako thinks it would be more fun if Mai was with them.](https://i.imgur.com/UKUNKLy.jpeg)
Well that after credits scene was interesting. [I wonder what Mai said to Satsuki](https://i.imgur.com/6PwoEGc.jpeg) that Satsuki called her an idiot for it. Hmmm...
Ajisai was looking so ahead before the movie episodes too, but that line from Renako has me worried. At least she realizes now that they can't all just go back to being friends like before. Cosplaying with Kaho has given her a new perceptive to reflect on everything that happened in the first season
Man, it remains crazy that this show is just on YouTube lmao.
Mai just continually setting herself up for failure which unfortunately makes me think she'll be the surprise winner, not to mention when Renako was thinking of Mai on the date instead of the perfect girl she was already with. Then again we also had Renako wishing Mai was there with her and Ajisai at the amusement park so maybe my disaster girl lesbian polycule hopes are still alive.
Lotta baths in this show, does that make a scene like that with Renako and every other girl in the group? She truly is the lesbian magnet.
i don't watch enough yuri to know if first girl wins tropes are just as prevalent here compared to het harems, but it does feel like that'll be the case from a meta perspective
So it seems Mai did help set them up. Honestly I couldn't believe it, but it's true that the way Renako said yes to Ajisai was very trance-like, like it was inevitable, like trying to stop rainfall from hitting the ground. Must be the first time in her life Mai's pride been shook this hard.
And a brief return of Best Girl Mai. Except she’s being way too accommodating with Ajisai. Like, she already wingmanned her to the starting line; she can afford to be selfish and “all’s fair in love and war”. Imo Mai shines the brightest when she’s barreling her way through things with all her might (while keeping boundaries in mind of course).
And... looks like she’s falling on her sword more than I thought. The amusement park date was cute I guess, but it felt a bit bitter without Mai there. And from the post-credits scene, she lacks a bit awareness too, considering how Mai’s usually the first person Renako thinks of when she considers “am I in love”. Or maybe the specific moment was the underwater kiss, so she wouldn’t have been able to see? Well either way, she’s backing out way too easily.
Exactly, this literally the two cakes memes, like holy shit two cakes
(Yes, I know that that's the Japanese term. But that should be translated to roller coasters in the English subtitles)
And so with this she's got the last member of the polycule.
Lol the moment she takes off her contacts that whole persona goes away.
And so she's going to get her revenge lol.
It's almost like she's already done this with at least 3 other girls...
What's got her so excited?
Ah. That. That seems like an honour.
And so she's going to go. For Renako.
So, a date with Mai and Ajisai.
A plan?
Ok... What's Ajisai looking for?
She's not coming, is she?
Yep. Why do I have a feeling she's actually watching them?
She's holding her hand!
Lol she can only think of Mai even in front of Ajisai.
The Ferris wheel?
She almost kissed her!
And so Kaho is going to go.
She's allowed to bring a +1?
[](#gintamathispleasesme)
What do you want to do like Mai Renako? 👀👀👀
I’m already assuming it is not something pure.
Here is the classic bathing scene we get every arc which is the main reason I had to wait to watch these episodes. I know some people in this sub don’t care about who sees them watching scenes like this but I was not going to watch Renako and Kaho bathe with my family. Felt extra validated on that because of how lewd it was, maybe didn’t reach the level of lewd Renako and Ajisai got too but still very lewd. Also after seeing this scene the Megami art for Renako and Kaho either doesn’t make sense or in that scenario Kaho decided to bathe with her contacts.
Just when i’m starting to feel they are really pushing Mai with Renako thinking so much about her they have another kiss tease for Ajisai making her feel like she is the one due to keeping the kiss from happening again.