Why is monogatari is considered better than aot or gintama? Is it really that good.
Like watching monogatari series until now is been fun, but to compare to those masterpiece is like not normal. Guess I am missing something. By the way I have completed kizumonogatatri all movies. Pls tell why it so underrated after being this good?
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Not everything needs to be compared in some ranking comparing what is better, their entirely different genres and styles of shows.
Edit: Am I doing the links wrong? Isn't that how it was done?
It’s almost like not everyone has the same opinions
Personally, I dislike aot and love Gintama. But in any way I see the general public claiming Monogatari Series is better than any of those two. For me it is. In the end, in my understanding, anime is about how it resonates with each viewer. Monogatari is too niche when compared with those other two. The majority of the people who watched aot have no idea of wtf is monogatari, or would drop Bakemonogatari after its first scene, and it should be their right to do it.
And those three animes are so different, that I think is just unfair to make this comparison. They have different objectives, artistic production, target audience. Idk, it's like asking between a runner, a swimmer and a biker, who is the best athlete.
For me, AoT’s back end fell flat. I enjoyed the buildup but not how they tied it all off. The animation was good but I had a hard time getting invested in the main trio and found myself enjoying the supporting cast far more, most of which got killed. And the finale? Big bucket of meh for me. Stunning visually but the execution didn’t do it for me. Plus I found AoT to be a bit of a drag on a rewatch, with me fast forwarding through some bits to get to better scenes. It is by no means a bad or even an average anime, in that I will not argue. But I also can’t put it anywhere near the top of my list.
Now Gintama suffers from 3 major issues in the anime community:
1) the quality of writing varies significantly not just from arc to arc but episode to episode. Many people like me aren’t bothered by it but enough are that it makes it hard to watch for them
2) it’s long with tons of filler (even if the filler is the best part half the time) and a surprising number of anime watchers aren’t into those kinds of series. You have a similar issue with anime like One Piece in that regard. I’ve heard some people say they would rather it took a DBZ Kai approach with a new release and cut a significant chunk of filler out. I think that’s a terrible idea, but it does highlight the fact that not everyone enjoyed it like you and I apparently have.
3) Comedy can be the most difficult to nail in any medium. Comedians are the perfect example of this, with most fading out of relevancy as the audience demographics change over time. Mixing and alternating between comedy and serious moments that make you wonder if you’re still watching the same show *while still in the same 20min episode*? Some people just don’t jive with that. Especially if the humor isn’t to their taste or they feel the humor ruins the serious bits. And Gintama loved to mash the two together.
I haven’t actually finished Monogatari yet, only watched the first series so far so I’m going to withhold any opinions/judgement on it purely because I haven’t developed any beyond the fact I really like what I’ve seen so far. What I can say is that at the very least my third point for Gintama certainly applies here as well, I can see how the comedy wouldn’t stick for some people.
So what you have is the age old adage of “Everybody likes what they like.” If AoT and Gintama are your masterpieces, then they’re your masterpieces. They aren’t mine but that’s 100% irrelevant to your or other’s enjoyment of them. But be prepared to have a bunch of nerds (I’m one) with different opinions telling you you’re wrong (I won’t do that, you’re not wrong just have a different opinion).
Monogatari is written like a giant web of interconnected stories told in a non chronological order. The narrative starts simple and slowly turns into a giant web with multiple moving parts where each character is going through their own story arcs independent of each other. This structure works because each character has the depth behind them to be the protagonist of their own show. Each arc feels like a new piece in a puzzle that is constantly expanding. And somehow everything lands perfectly in the end. The best part is the author makes it all seem effortless. He is constantly joking with the audience and directly talking to us through the characters. That's the brilliance of Monogatari's writing and why it is praised.
The second is the visual presentation. The team at Studio Shaft under the guidance of Akiyuki Shinbou craft a surreal, dreamlike aesthetic for the series. The series uses heavy visual symbolisms, merges real world imagery and animation and uses surreal imagery that gives this show a distinct feel and makes it stand out from its competitors. It basically makes Monogatari's aesthetic timeless because there is nothing quite like it in the market.
Monogatari has some major issues as well but its strengths can't be denied from both the visual and storytelling standpoint. It is not a show that wants to appeal to everyone. But because of its timeless aesthetics and actually solid writing it will be a point of contention in the anime community for years to come.
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