My "inner demon and angel" are constantly fighting over this movie, Angel's egg. Is it good... or just pretentious?
Hello,
Last week, I watched Angel’s Egg (Tenshi no Tamago) for the third time, this time at Cinema Spoutnik in Geneva. And I still have the same problem every time:
I love this movie… and I dislike it at the same time.
Pros:
- The animation is so beautiful
- The soundtrack is soothing
- The pacing is like a bed time story
- It's deeply contemplative
- It's very poetic in it's imagery (also a con)
- I like Mamoru Osshi almost as much as I like Satoshi Kon
Cons:
- The story ends with too much poetry (what is the purpose of the final scene?)
- Very few dialogues
- Looks more Avant-garde than an animation movie (and I saw some really weird anime movies...)
- It doesn't inform you, It's contemplative and seeing so much soldiers, you expect more action
- It doesn't explain anything, it's purely fantastic and metaphorical. Like I'm lacking context (egg, skeleton, shadows, feathers, bottles) or a guide book
Last week, I watched Angel’s Egg (Tenshi no Tamago) for the third time, this time at Cinema Spoutnik in Geneva. And I still have the same problem every time:
I love this movie… and I dislike it at the same time.
Pros:
- The animation is so beautiful
- The soundtrack is soothing
- The pacing is like a bed time story
- It's deeply contemplative
- It's very poetic in it's imagery (also a con)
- I like Mamoru Osshi almost as much as I like Satoshi Kon
Cons:
- The story ends with too much poetry (what is the purpose of the final scene?)
- Very few dialogues
- Looks more Avant-garde than an animation movie (and I saw some really weird anime movies...)
- It doesn't inform you, It's contemplative and seeing so much soldiers, you expect more action
- It doesn't explain anything, it's purely fantastic and metaphorical. Like I'm lacking context (egg, skeleton, shadows, feathers, bottles) or a guide book
Commentaires
That being said, despite my praise for it, it's not exactly my favorite piece of film. I think I have it listed as a 5/10 on my MAL just because I would never really consider re-watching it outside of very specific circumstances, and once I remove it from more academic-style discussions, I really don't think about it much at all. It wasn't really something I "Liked".
I can respect it as a piece of work and still not really enjoy it. I don't think it is for a lot of people, or needs to be for you, something that fits neatly into "good or bad".
In the final scene of the movie we see the entire setting of the world we witnessed appears to be Ark-shaped.
This story is sort of a metaphorical 'what if.' As in, what if the 'bird' hasn't hatched yet... or also what if it would be better if the bird never was allowed to be sent to 'find' dry land and 'save' humanity.
If it helps, the movie is definitely a nod towards nihilism and treats belief, specifically Christian belief, as a negative. I don't think you need to agree with the movie to appreciate how it deals with the weight of what it is trying to portray.
Eg. my partner loves the animation style of Lain but he absolutely cannot wrap his head around the plot and struggles to remember simple events that happened earlier that I have to remind him of, he’s just not built for it lol.
Like everything you listed as cons aren’t as much cons against *Angel’s Egg* as much as telling me you might not be a huge fan of (or properly trained on) this genre.
My tension here isn’t about handholding, but about how this film sets up certain visual expectations only to deny them entirely.
I admire the intent, but I’m still conflicted about the experience.
The Lighthouse, Perfect Blue, Memento, Midsommar are some examples of arthouse movies I enjoyed
For me, the feelings and associations triggered by the "visual poetry" of the scenes were quite visceral and tacit. I remembered other times I had gotten those feelings by actual things that happened to me. And it's like I was told a pretty coherent story merely by having those feelings evocated rather than by being shown a concrete timeline of causes and effects.
Maybe people who enjoy those types of poetic narratives experiene this with all of these movies and maybe, for some reason, this particular one didn't reasonate with you so all the scenes and art feel empty and artsy for art's sake? That's usually why I'm put off from similar works.
The films you said you like aren't arthouse. They have elements of experimentation but they're still genre films. Animation films can be avant garde, I don't see why that's a con. Maybe it would be worth looking more into avant garde cinema to see how they compare for you.
As a side note, seeing the soldiers in Angel's Egg gave me zero expectation of action. That was their scene, I never even expected to see them again.