Trigun Stargaze - Episode 1 discussion
*Trigun Stargaze*, episode 1
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I’ve seen stampede and thought it was worth watching. That said I haven’t seen the original anime.
The manga, meanwhile, ran until 2007 and in the end had around 120 chapters. Plot points, concepts, characterization... entire very important characters! from the manga are missing from the 1998 anime. When you hear people talk about wanting a Trigun Maximum adaptation, this is what they are referring to: they want a direct, panel-to-panel adaptation of the manga.
And then there is Stampede/Stargaze. Those later-manga concepts, themes, tone, and characterizations which were missing from the 1998 anime are in Stampede/Stargaze, as well as the missing characters (Livio!!), but it's like it's all been thrown in a blender. It's Trigun Maximum, remixed.
It's like the 1998 anime has the form of the manga, but lacks most of the ingredients, whereas Stampede/Stargaze has *all* of the ingredients, but in a radically different form.
[](#sakurathink)
Stampede might work better by watching it fresh instead of comparing it to the OG anime that took a lot more liberties
ngl am getting spoiled with double eps debut that some series are doing this season; stargaze 1st ep was ok but just not delivering the 1st ep hype for me since I've been waiting for so long.
So it looks like [Vash still hasn't recovered](https://i.imgur.com/k5jQCOv.jpeg) and he's now being taken care of [this big dude.](https://i.imgur.com/Gm9iWeY.jpeg) What happened to the kid who's also taking care of him at the end of episode 12? Hmmm...
also this is just episode 1, so making these types of assumptions might backfire lol
Milly seems cute, but I am a big Meryl fan nonetheless. Zazie is a hoot here.
Ew
We've only just reunited with Milly and I already love her.
Completely unrelated but the piano tease at the end was insane, I think they know how much I like the soundtrack from Stampede and what I'm watching for 😅.
An entire new colony fleet from Earth showing up sure drastically changes things, but if all those ships are also powered by plants (or however that works) it may not go well for them showing up at a planet where Knives is.
I feel like I should remember who the big dude who has been taking care of Vash is but it's not coming back to me.
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Also, the entire Vash and Hoppered scene was downright sad. I hope everything gets better!
Everyone would have died if Vash/Knives adopted mom Rem hadn’t saved most ships. So in order to survive the people retrofit the plants in each crash site to make food, water, and protect the people from the desert sands. Towns/cities grew up around the crash sites.
The people are dependent on the plants to survive, but we find out that they are actually sentient lifeforms. Unfortunately people using them is slowly killing them.
This episode shows what the new crisis is, since the plant thieves are taking the plants, it’s dooming the towns. So everyone has to migrate to the next closest town. That puts strain on the limited resources. Eventually there won’t be enough plants to support the human population. On the other hand if the plants are taken, then it’s possible that the plants lives are being saved, at the cost of humans dying. This Meryl, Millies mixed feelings about the incidents.
Sorry I’m ranting, but I’m almost done. Okay, so what we’re finding out now is that Earth has finally found the down ships from a hundred year’s ago. So they are sending a massive rescue fleet with supplies and space to evacuate any humans off of the planet.
I’m sorry if I’m repeating most of season 1, but Trigun drops plot point and plot twist in a weird way to contextualize at times. At least for me it does.
Knives and Vash are the only 2 sentient plants, Knives wants to eliminate humanity on this planet, "impregnate" all the plants that he's stolen (presumably to create more sentient plants), and then create a utopia for all plant-kind.
In order to do this Knives gathered all the stolen plants into JuLai, then used their energy + Vash's ability to open portals to the higher dimension where all Plants pull energy from to summon a wipe-out-all-life-on-the-planet amount of energy. Cue epic showdown, ending when Vash thwarted the plan by firing the energy up into space, but as a result he crashed into and disintegrated JuLai (hence his $60B bounty), and apparently also signaled to Earth that Project SEEDS had crashlanded on this particular planet. Both went missing at the end of the episode.
No this is good actually, i needed this refresher, thanks!
More spaceships from Earth are approaching which might be beneficial. Jury’s still out on that one.
The legendary Millie that I’ve heard source readers ramble about since episode one finally arrives. She’s pretty funny and also kind of an airhead. “We need to eat more worms” is the solution to every problem.
I’m interested in what the guy who’s taking care of Vash/Eriks deal is.
The bugs human avatar from season returns as a mildly informative pest. Intriguing.
Lots of questions, not enough answers, but hopefully enough episodes to answer them.
(Knives, I’m keeping an eye out for wherever you’re probably lurking. Don’t believe I’ve forgotten about you.)
Making plans like that are always likely to backfire anyway
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Poor Vash is now catatonic and taken care of by some… monster freak, I guess. Who doesn’t seem to be such a bad guy, but he was definitely wondering if he should cut Vash throat and put him out of his misery for a moment.
And now a spacefleet from Earth has shown up. I guess the logical thing for them to do would be for them to pick up the inhabitants of this desert planet and then free the plants, but I doubt that it will be that easy and straightforward.
I wonder what happened to the girl from season 1's stinger, she looked just like the girl taking care of "Erics" on the manga and anime but now she is nowhere to be seen and instead Hoppered is the one taking care of him. Wonder if they just retconned that or of it's gonna be explored next episode.
Can't wait for Domina and Chronica.
I feel like these people are all celebrating too early, understandable, but I'm just waiting for some tragedy. But maybe I'm forgetting details.
\*waves at giant worm\*
Nightow just seems to love seeing how other people put their spin on his story.
This premiere was mostly setup, but seems to have set up at least two big themes / questions already. Looking forward to more.
Feels like this timeline is going to be what spurs Knives to send the Gung Ho Guns to cause as much damage as possible. The timing I the old show always felt arbitrary.
She apparently kept working as Maruko-chan until the end.
[Yay Millie's back!](https://files.catbox.moe/tgjim3.jpg) [](#airfist)
["HEY!](https://files.catbox.moe/df4ztw.jpg) You're gonna bend my trailer hitch!" [](#why)
[Oops](https://files.catbox.moe/l1l4ek.jpg) [](#disbelief)
Ahhh, we're so back [](#woo)
great start.
im glad they are still going heavy on the importance of the plants. as great as the OG was, it was the ambiguity that left me wanting more (anyone remember when Knives kills a guy with a black hole? what was that about?)
i am VERY confused about the fleet from earth, maybe i forgot something from Stampede?
Vash and Monev...friends?! maybe i should rewatch, couldve swore he died.
Who wants to bet that zazie terroizes meryl on a regular basis 🤣
On top of that another banger by Ano-chan. Too bad I'm pretty sure the anime community in generał will sleep on this show just like they did with season 1. Especially among youtube creators and reactors.