Toujima Tanzaburou wa Kamen Rider ni Naritai • Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider - Episode 14 discussion
*Toujima Tanzaburou wa Kamen Rider ni Naritai*, episode 14
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"Oh yeah, like that lady who is always stripping in public to dress up like Tackle from *Kamen Rider Stronger*?"
"Man, this city is weird."
I love how the moment he mentions Shocker, Futaba just thinks he's another delusional fanboy like her brother and thus must die...until he transforms into Spider Man and Futaba realizes she's dealing with a genuine, bonafide, Kaijin and nothing she throws at him will do any damage. But points for trying.
Honestly if I was in Shocker and saw Futaba, I would want to make her a Kaijin too. I mean, can you imagine her in the Wasp Woman outfit? But even if it means running away in her underwear (which is quite a visual unto itself), Futaba HAS to get away! And then declare to the Heavens the truth that she knows now as much as her brothers do...SHOCKER EXISTS!
Meeting of the Shocker Kaijin! Turns out Bat Man and Spider Man, while both working towards Shockers' goal of world conquest, have totally different methods for doing so. Spider Man is slowly turning select individuals into Combatants/Kaijins, while Bat Man is trying to take over the world...with a Female Combatant idol boom (so does that mean the Combat Girls are also Shocker Combatants already?). But Spider Man can't help but be fascinated by humans, especially after his tussle with Tojima.
Yukarsiu and Mitsuba are so lovey-dovey! And always have time for a smooch...except for when an underwear-clad sister in a tiger mask is standing outside their door.
Yes Futaba, Shocker is real. Yes, your sister-in-law is a Shocker Combatant. Yes, they killed your grandparents. And yes, Ichiyo is a certifiable nutjob but he wasn't lying about Shocker. But you're also still justified in wanting to beat him up.
I love how Yukarisu might no longer be brainwashed by Shocker, but she still feels the burning desire of all Combatants to become a Kaijin. Though she's just as happy being Mitsuba's Shocker Wife.
It's rough being an idol! You have a hankering for ramen it's liable to turn you into a chubby sea lioness idol like Sena, you're an idol about to hit 30 meaning you can't risk your career for anything like Junko, or you're liable to get attacked (by Bat Man?) and get turned into combatant zombies!
Seems like Kumota was THIS close to taking care of loose ends in the thugs who hired him to take on Tiger Mask, but Sena who immediately became enamored with him (even while running from her zombie co-workers) yells to ward the thugs off to help him and even lets said thugs step on her as they walk away! That's taking one for the team, Sena!
And now we've got Kumota princess carrying her, wondering if she saw his Kaijin mouth, and Sena is head over heels in love. I'm sure this will end well.
Yukarisu dreams of becoming Mitsuba's Shocker Kaijin Wife.
At least her love for Mitsuba keeps her in check lol
On a side note, I feel like that spider man and bat man are not on the same page.
Futaba is having the biggest mental breakdown after getting her ass kicked and learning Shocker is real.
Yukarisu suffering from professional jealously, not only does she get her ass kicked by humans, the new girl gets offered a promotion straight to monster.
There is actually a plus sized idol group, so the sea lioness doesn't need to give up her 2 bowls of ramen or her dreams of being an idol.
The ramen shack owner is thinking Junko is a total bitch to taking away his best customer.
I kind of love the ramen shop dude just staying quiet during that idol fistfight/chewing out session. Not his business so long as someone still eats his ramen lol.
"My ramen will always be here, but your chance to make it big as an idol won't." Or something like that.
Literally fell in love the first time i heard it. My fav theme of the 10 songs.
**scary breadth**
(Was on a road trip, we put on some of the Tojima OST and was cruising to Spider Man and Tackle's themes and then it just shuffled later into Toei Spider-Man Opening)
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Batman seemed to aim for quantity over quality. Unlike Spiderman’s, his shocker convertees all acted like zombies and had lost all human intellect.
- [So… do you believe your brothers now, Futaba?](https://i.imgur.com/vDFGWXl.png) [](#emiliaohdear)
- [Yeah, he wasn’t going to let her run…](https://i.imgur.com/SxFrzU0.png) [](#mug1)
- [Oh!](https://i.imgur.com/VBQ1sWH.png)
- [So they actually are letting Futaba get away?](https://i.imgur.com/YWbdL4x.png)
- [Huh…](https://i.imgur.com/AxINMko.png) [](#sakurathink)
- [Oh lol, Yukarisu got *jealous* about that?](https://i.imgur.com/6TtnOWF.png) [](#kotohoops)
- [Of course Ichiyo’s off doing waterfall training now.](https://i.imgur.com/5ISWZVK.png) [](#kukuku2)
- [This is so ridiculous…](https://i.imgur.com/FsVvr7q.png)
- [Wellllllllllllllllllll then.](https://i.imgur.com/pv6mxaW.png) [](#ohfuck)
- [Poor girl coming across *this*.](https://i.imgur.com/gDjFUqL.png)
- [Girl](https://i.imgur.com/zVBEkPJ.png) [noooooooooooooooo](https://i.imgur.com/5SdVEGG.png) [](#crazedlaugh)
- [Oh god…](https://i.imgur.com/cKApUdJ.png)
[So Man-Bat has been targeting idols and turning them into Combatants?](https://i.imgur.com/SjrzFRl.jpeg) I did not expect the idols to eventually become relevant to the story. Also, it's pretty interesting how Man-Bat and Man-Spider have some differences. It looks like [Man-Spider is more interested in humans too.](https://i.imgur.com/byJczRH.jpeg)
I love how even after finding out that Shocker is real, [Futaba still has no plans of stopping from beating Ichirou up.](https://i.imgur.com/ku4QEdS.jpeg) His obsession with Kamen Rider still robbed her of the experience of having friends when she was a kid. xD
I wasn't sure where [the scene with the girl sneaking out to eat ramen](https://i.imgur.com/3Rf69b1.jpeg) was going, but I definitely did not expect it to end [with her falling in love with Man-Spider.](https://i.imgur.com/p1Aikre.jpeg) This is going to be interesting, especially since Man-Spider mentioned earlier he wanted to learn more about humans.
Is Team Rider going to have to fight a bunch of idol combatants?
Will Futaba knowing about Shocker bring the siblings together? Or just give her more chances to beat up Ichiyo lol?
Chubby idol falling for Kumota was definitely not the side-ship I think anyone was expecting from this show lol.
Also, I hope now that Sis knows she'll also join the fight.
We saw with how Kumota changed Nakao that at least when **he** does it the process is seamless and you might not even notice the change at first, so it might be Kaijin specific.
(don't mind me saying "otoko", I'm a weeb that thinks it sounds cool to say it in japanese)
Komori Otoko is about quantity. Convert everyone in his path.
Kumo Otoko is about quality. Only seek out and convert the stronger humans (note how many of the shockers we have encountered exposition dumped badass backgrounds on us).
I'll assume that the weaker grunts we have come across were Komori (bat) converts, and the more interesting combatants were (Kumo) converts.
Also We knew Bat-Man likes his combatant recruitment to be idols now. (I remembered many people pointed out: the combat girls idol's symbol in previous eps is look like shocker symbol, seem like shockers in idol groups is an availability now).
...By the way, seem like some rom-com between fat idol and Spider-Man next week.
ONORE SHOCKER
Then there’s the new character, Sena. Her attitude of devouring her favorite ramen while ignoring the opinions of her fellow idol members and fans is consistent, and in a way, it’s amazing. Everyone in this series is crazy somewhere lol.
At the idol agency, everyone had become Shocker. This must be the first stage of world conquest that Bat-man spoke of—increasing the number of Shocker. It's somehow understandable why Spider-man isn't into that plan.
And the future of the relationship between Spider-man and Sena... Could a romance between a monster and a human really be starting? With the way Sena is now, I feel like she would happily become a Shocker just to devote herself to Spider-man.
Fucking ⚰️
I don't know if an idol that gets called Sea Lioness and sneaks out two eat two bowls of ramen every night is the best person for him to learn about humans, but it looks like that's who he'll learn it from.
Futaba finally learns the truth and what a *shocking* way too, I like how she still admits even if he was saying the truth he's still acts like a freak show so she'll still beat him up when she feels like it.
Narukami Yu from Persona 4 next week!!!???
Also, anime is going kinda slow, so I might save up the rest
She's cute, sure, but what cements her in our hearts is the typical Toujima trope of the character being a moron with a theme. The theme today is "Slurp, UMAI!"
So will our Lioness join the Shocker faction alongside our Yakuza? I look forward to seeing her join either side of this epic tale.
**Sea Lion sounds**
Poor thing kept getting beaten and tripped. How dare they mock our new heroine!
they just arnt interesting or funny enough, feel like they introduced a big bad then we’re just like ok lets spend the next few episodes doinng a bunch of random stuff, cos we dont know waht to do with the main cast anymore
Yay...one of my favorite shows last season is back. So like...Futaba is doing at least as good as "I beat up bears" Toujima. I mean its still not enough, since she is by herself. but damn this family must have some high grade genetics (or insanity)
I am pretty sure she is more angry about her brother being correct than knowing that monsters actually killed her grandparents
So we have an actual Shocker plot. Interesting that there doesn't seem much of a overall organization, since the monsters seemingly each do there own thing. It's clear that Batman is the worst of the two we have met so far and I can see this episode slowly setting up Spiderman as at least a reluctant ally.
Batman seems to be setting himself up as a harem protagonist. The 100 idols who you really really brainwashed into your minions. Now the question is if the army themed idols are already in thrall of Batman, or if Nakao is going to have to kick some monster butt (Or I suppose they are already some idol magical group because I feel like this show would do that)
Okay...now it's an idol anime. That Shocker recruitment is pretty horrifying, or at least the way Batman does it.
And now it's a romantic comedy? Although I can't blame her...Spiderdude is pretty hot.
Sena eating ramen after declaring she wants to be an idol was pretty funny. I can see why she’s called the Sea Lioness lol. I hope she doesn’t get turned into a monster by Spider Man.
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I feel like she's a prime candidate to get an upgrade but then be perfectly normal about it like Yakuza guy, because Ramen over Shocker.
This show keeps going in unexpected directions and it's pretty exciting. Happy they kept the OD/ED.
But it worked so well!
I'm piderman!
I come over da house!
We're best friends!
From what I know about Kamen Rider, the Riders and Combatants (and monsters?) are supposed to be cyborgs. Junko seems to have vampire-like bite marks (prob from Bat Man). I wager the cyberization has been modernized to use nanomachines, son!
Now I wanna know how the yakuza guy wasn't brainwashed. Probably from the whims or as an experiment of Spider Man like we can see in this episode.
EDIT: Seeing some of the comments, apparently the bite marks are a reference to Bat Man and some virus when he bites them?
Such a normal woman.