Isekai no Sata wa Shachiku Shidai • Isekai Office Worker: The Other World's Books Depend on the Bean Counter

Isekai no Sata wa Shachiku Shidai • Isekai Office Worker: The Other World's Books Depend on the Bean Counter - Episode 2 discussion

*Isekai no Sata wa Shachiku Shidai*, episode 2

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szalhi2026-01-13 15:43

[Well, this certainly is a way to treat mana burn.](https://i.imgur.com/RlTMRIR.jpeg)

yunnuyz2026-01-13 15:44

i was shocked when i saw it, pls tell me it's what I'm thinking

Monk-Ey2026-01-13 18:24

"Kondou, the cure for magic sickness is yaoi"

"S-sure..."

PeaceAlien2026-01-13 15:45

OH I SEE THIS IS THAT KIND OF SHOW, Aresh was on Seiichirou's back too

PeaceAlien2026-01-13 16:01

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___Chud___2026-01-13 16:06

> First episode gave no signs of that

Saw it in the ending with the handholding, but yeah basically a bait by the isekaid accountant and switch to the gay stuff. Guess I'll drop

Ajhale2026-01-13 17:04

relevant username

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-13 16:04

Ah yes, guy gets magic sickness and the only cure is ikemen D lol. Guy was complaining about the pain in his lower back like yeah, I bet it does haha. Bro was considering going a few rounds with Indolark if it meant he could drink more of those tonics. Dude was fiendin!

Aspect-Unusual2026-01-13 17:11

Kind of a implication this show made with this when the guy who cures him also mentions to himself kids get magic sick..

Atharaphelun2026-01-13 18:30

It shows just how toxic Japanese corporate slave culture is if his solution to get more work done is to get regular poundings from what I'm assuming is a very sizeable and girthy magical ikemen knight D.

Maybe he should consider buying oil instead of tonics...

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:32

> It shows just how toxic Japanese corporate slave culture is if his solution to get more work done is to get regular poundings from what I'm assuming is a very sizeable and girthy magical ikemen knight D

sounds like the next Chuck Tingle light novel title

Magnafeana2026-01-13 16:04

BL isekai day 💃🏾🏳️‍🌈

The singing 🎵

Making Aresh feel so damn tossed aside 😭😭

>I’ve always had a weak stomach thanks to my unhealthy lifestyle and lack of lack [but continues to work himself to death]

r/SelfAwarewolves

Aresh is so appalled and that is understandable.

>Aresh: When I look at this guy, I can’t help getting irritated…any yet

“And yet” what sir, finish your sentences now, don’t be shy 👀

He sounds like Seunghyun from <Pearl Boy: Ignite the Dawn> from the latest drop 😭

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When I first saw Aresh helping our overworked accountant, I was super duper stoked guideverse was in this. I can see the vision of Esper!Kondou overdosing on guide supplements and Guide!Aresh deciding to help him 👀

Alas, twas not guideverse.

Maeno’s chanting reminds me of Karuta when someone’s reading aloud a poem for the players to the corresponding card. I’d love to hear him be a reader for that.

LazulineDaydream2026-01-13 16:10

Um, so like, exactly how long did they need to be going at it to cure the mana sickness?

Like medically speaking. Is there an amount of time? Do you need to finish? Really curious what the logistics are there.

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Atharaphelun2026-01-13 18:33

> Um, so like, exactly how long did they need to be going at it to cure the mana sickness?

With how this is going, probably far longer than the actual treatment time needed...

shadebug2026-01-13 18:41

It’s like when they surgically remove cancer, you still get some extra radiation just to make sure there aren’t any stray bits that were missed. Being thorough is very important

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-14 01:33

Well if the theorizing about fluid exchange being needed is correct...uh...I would say at least Aresh needs to finish...

alconnow2026-01-13 16:13

When I first saw the number of downvotes on the Crunchyroll video, it made me think that they messed up with the subs again… That’s not the case

fraid_so2026-01-13 16:16

Now you know why they took the comments away.

froggyc192026-01-13 17:00

Guess a lot of people didn't notice this was a BL lol

Kin-Luu2026-01-13 18:39

Well, the beginning of this episode made things rather clear. 😅

NoNameSwitzerland2026-01-13 21:28

I thought the gentle noble on vacation fills that spot this season. But once he got naked on the bed with the other dude I got a little suspicious. Nothing wrong with that, but there was a "ohhhh, that kind of show is that..."

zappingbluelight2026-01-13 21:28

I realized it was BL at the end of the first episode, when mc looked up at the handsome dude. I was like oh boy, this maybe my first BL. Definitely didn't realize they will dock this episode lol.

dododomo2026-01-13 18:23

And people still wonder why Crunchyroll took the comment sections away. Some people did that with Cherry Magic, twilight out of focus (which forced CR to take the comments away) and the summer hikaru died (despite the fact that it's not labeled as a BL)

Particular_Maize68492026-01-13 18:49

Bruh if you (they, not you specifically) don't like BL just don't watch it? Why are people so homophobic they gotta downvote BL just because it doesn't vibe for them? I don't downvote the millions upon millions of straight shallow af harem anime even though it's all ass.

Roonagu2026-01-13 19:27

Insecure teens, closeted guys, and those indoctrinated by hatred. It’s a very performative thing to do.

gnome-cop2026-01-13 19:51

Something about men daring to break common masculinity norms just brings the dirt trolls of the internet out in full force to ruin the fun for everyone. Happens every goddamn time.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 20:09

RIGHT!?

If you don't want to watch a gay romance story... that's fine. Perfectly fine. No one has to defend what they do or do not like to watch for disposable entertainment. If you can't relate to the main drama then it's a valid reason to stop watching.

But don't hate the show because it's not the genre you prefer. I don't care for harem shows or shounen, but it's not like I'm going to review bomb every series in those categories.

I'm just going to ignore them.

And I guess I've just been in the trenches long enough that I pegged this as BL from just the poster, with synopsis confirming it. BL ain't normally my cup of tea, I've only watched a few series, but I gave this one a try on a whim.

Gaysekai are pretty rare, so I figured it'd be a fresh take on an extremely stale genre.

Definitely wasn't expeting "Youch My Ass Hurts" from the beginning of Episode 2... but this seems to be a mature enough series that is looking into deprogramming Sei's corporate slave mindset while also likely tapping into some emotional baggage of Aresh that's kept him so closed off.

I'm digging it so far.

littlecolt2026-01-13 23:52

It's because they hate gay people. The existence of yaoi triggers them.

SetaSanzaki2026-01-13 20:07

Apparently, it's not a problem with the sub. It's a problem with the sub and dom

Shimmering-Sky2026-01-13 16:17

- [Magic sickness, huh.](https://i.imgur.com/oKtCmca.png) [](#wakarimasu)

- [Oh this is *certainly* a position to wake up in.](https://i.imgur.com/rFExNDx.png) [](#kukuku2)

- [I mean…](https://i.imgur.com/DPjTSDd.png) [](#rinkek)

- [A kiss in episode 2!](https://i.imgur.com/DBNpS6i.png) [](#forbiddenlove) …and implied that they also had sex too, wow. This sure moves fast.

- [Sasuga, Aresh.](https://i.imgur.com/0jvZOc2.png)

- [Ooh, this Quellbus guy is *pretty*.](https://i.imgur.com/9MRBE7K.png) [](#saberawe)

- [No one can say his name right in this world.](https://i.imgur.com/kLi4ijs.png) [](#toradorasalute) I feel the pain in a way; my name doesn’t get *mispronounced*, but it does get *misspelled* by basically everyone (including some of my own family members).

- [Aresh “sore demo”!](https://files.catbox.moe/lan3lr.mp4)

- [Dude eats mostly just vegetables](https://i.imgur.com/s7r8Daq.png) because [the meat in this world upsets his stomach… wow.](https://i.imgur.com/Oinw02h.png)

- [Yeah, fair.](https://i.imgur.com/pIxLRGB.png)

- [Sei pls.](https://i.imgur.com/Lz3B6HD.png) [](#facepalm2)

- [He’s *still* trying to figure out a way for him to be able to drink those tonics.](https://i.imgur.com/1guinT9.png) [](#crazedlaugh)

- [Mood.](https://i.imgur.com/c1xVznd.png) [](#elves)

- The ED is nice. [](#listen)

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 16:51

> Ooh, this Quellbus guy is pretty.

Deshou! This world has some very good looking people and that doc is right up there.

fraid_so2026-01-13 16:18

If we were allowed to post gifs, my reaction to this episode would be [this lol](https://tenor.com/en-AU/view/jonah-hill-excited-shouts-gif-3868791)

Witterson2026-01-13 19:28

Mine would be Drew Barrymore in the rain but that will likely be how I feel after every episode, not just this one.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 20:05

https://i.imgur.com/zazlcN0.png

AdvielOricon2026-01-13 16:19

Bro is so chill about having gay sex for the first time.

He is treating it like getting a prostate exam.

dododomo2026-01-13 18:12

Sei: "It's all for best performances at work!" XD

Atharaphelun2026-01-13 18:27

Sei: "Commander, thanks for the sex, here's a gold coin as payment!"

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:24

Sei: "whoops, i spent all my money on drugs; can i pay you in installments?"

testthrowawayzz2026-01-13 22:42

No wonder he was mad the morning after…

Indolark: "I think the guy I like is treating me like a prostitute. AIO?"

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-13 18:34

It was funny to see him genuinely consider it later in exchange to be able to take the tonics.

MandisaW2026-01-14 05:24

Watching him clearly weighing the options, Cmdr-kun was about to go nuclear.

"I saved your life. I'm about to take it back." 😂🔥

saga9992026-01-14 08:20

Dude's a legit addict.

shatteredauthor2026-01-13 21:41

I mean... it wasn't necessarily his first time lol. He adapted to the circumstances real fast, and was really gonna suggest for a minute there that he be allowed to do more drugs in exchange for having more "treatment" lol

Calwings2026-01-13 23:47

The fact that he was willing to even consider that idea was crazy, but also funny.

MandisaW2026-01-14 05:31

I thought about that too, but Indolark clearly has studied at least field medicine. Pain management would be part of that, magic or no.

Bit like applying mild sedation to a patient, he could've been microhealing & anesthetizing as-needed.

Not totally ruling out that this isn't Sei's first time. But he is such a workaholic and not-great with people generally that any encounters, if any, cannot have been recent (dude has "permanent dry spell" practically tattooed under his eyes 🫩).

mdm1682026-01-14 01:24

FOR THE MISSION TO

pandavova2026-01-13 16:24

Huh. Got blindsided by the BL.

Didn't really notice it first episode. Read the previous thread after this episode, looks like it was obvious to many. But I don't really want to watch another mana transfer, not my thing. Guess I'll try some more episodes, but looks like a drop.

BosuW2026-01-13 20:58

I mean the OP is super romantic. If you replaced any of the leads (though especially Sei) with a woman no one would question what they are.

pandavova2026-01-13 21:04

I rarely watch OPs/EDs at the start to avoid spoilers, only listen to them if I like the song.

It works as we can see here hahaha

athrun_12026-01-13 16:27

As Tony Stark said when he saw the video in CA: Civil War: What is this?

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 16:44

Alright then, no more doubts about whether this is BL. We got (off camera for the most part) gay sex in episode 2!

Did not expect the treatment for magic sickness would be having sex with a magic user. Was very amusing the way both of them were treating it like it was nbd and something that just had to be done. But it did raise some troubling questions for me. Indolark says something like why would an adult get magic sick, which seems to imply this is something that usually affects children. So how exactly do they treat kids with magic sickness?? o_O

My guess is there is another treatment but Indolark just wanted to use this method because huhu

I'm with him on not understanding this crazy workaholic though. Kondou wants so much to continue his work that he'll risk taking the tonics again and is game for more gay sex so he can do it without dying. Nice nice.

Edit: Oh, and the ED is very nice indeed. Best one so far this season possibly, musically anyway.

The_forgettable_guy2026-01-13 17:05

It's a fan service show, so I'm not surprised.

Goblin Slayer slept with 2 girls! Although he was literally asleep at the time lol.

LuNaRNIghts2026-01-13 17:12

I think probably because as an adult in their world they should have already enough magic resistance so they don't get magic sick probably. Kondou is not from this world and weak as a bean. It's also the reason they eh had straight up off screen sex xD (not that I complain). He just used that much magic ;D

And I agree the ending is sooo good. Went on repeat already

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 17:28

No no, the reasoning for why adults in their world normally don't get magic sickness made sense to me. I was just wondering how they would treat children who got sick like that. Surely not the same way Kondou got treated!

LuNaRNIghts2026-01-13 17:33

Ohhhhh my bad xD maybe they just need long hugs

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 17:36

Aww that's so pure :)

Monk-Ey2026-01-13 18:22

I mean, if it's your kid, I could see a normal cheek kiss also working without being creepy.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:24

> I was just wondering how they would treat children who got sick like that.

is it transmitted in bodily fluids? maybe it's more important to get breastfed when you're young

(like, by your mother or a wetnurse, not the captain of the guard)

AdvielOricon2026-01-13 18:17

Probably the mother breastfeeding and just hugging for long time is giving them resistance to it.

It had to go to sex because he was at the brink of death and needed a direct injection of mana or something.

They are going by Fate GO rules where sex is the most efficient method but not the only one.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 18:20

This certainly sounds plausible.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 19:53

I think the bigger issue is that Sei was overdosing on Magicules without anyone realizing the issue.

So not only did he start with no magic resistance (most people likely have some from birth in this world, just by process of natural selection), but no one warned him about this issue.

It was a double whammy leading into an emergency situation that called for emergency measures.

Normally, a child would likely be weaned into high-magicule foods... as mentioned, breastmilk in this world likely gets everyone gently accustomed to their mother's mana as a means of building up natural magic resistance.

Then they are kept away from high concentrations of magic-rich foods, medicines, and other substances as they continue to build up their resistance.

Sei was just thrown to the wolves in comparison.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 19:57

Yeah, and he realises as much when the medical director is just like idk when Aresh demands why Sei was never given a proper medical examination. Glad he's got someone looking out for him now.

powerhcm82026-01-13 22:32

>but no one warned him about this issue.

I think most people would not even consider this since is something natural to their world. Probably a few know they come from a world without magic, and even then, only a few would make the connection.

And to make things worse, from what they said, they have summoned Saint and it seems their body get adjusted in the process, him coming together was a first, even the people that could maybe think of the problem, might just assume that his body was adjusted like the Saint was.

Edit: Additionally, if he wasn't a workaholic, this probably wouldn't have happened, his body would get used slowly and the problem would go away without anyone knowing about it.

So it was a very specific set of conditions that caused this scenario.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 22:43

Right, but Sei was never given a proper medical examination like the Saint was. Because the Saint was all this kingdom cared about, they were lowkey embarrassed at Sei's mere existence. He was their mistake, and for the sake of appearances, they'll pretend to care...

But they don't.

That's why he never got a proper medical examination that would have revealed this odd condition, nor did he have anyone assigned to watch over him, make sure he adjusted well, and just in general make sure he's OK.

Because they didn't care to even ask the question in the first place.

Again, the Saint was given a full medical eval, while Sei was largely just swept under the rug and forgotten about.

And that's a separate problem from Sei being a corporate slave with no self preservation.

Atharaphelun2026-01-13 18:32

> It had to go to sex because he was at the brink of death and needed a direct injection of mana or something.

Ah yes, direct injection of "mana"...mmmhmmm...

"*Mr. Commander, why is your mana thick and copious??*"

speedfilly2026-01-13 19:21

Or they just in general mostly all have it built in because their bodies have developed from the womb in that world. The evolutionary pressures with magic around would be different so most of them don't get sick. It appears that some do, maybe because of odd genetics or something but the general expectation is that even babies wouldn't get magic sickness in this case I think.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:28

> Probably the mother breastfeeding and just hugging for long time is giving them resistance to it.

i was thinking it was something like how antibodies are passed on through breastmilk

apparently just putting food in the usual food hole is going to be enough to build a tolerance for Sei if it's in low doses

[](#schemingsaten)

speedfilly2026-01-13 19:26

I got the impression that that treatment was "exchanging bodily fluids" since he said the kiss was just an emergency treatment and he needed more but he wanted consent. I looked at it more like a vaccination situation. He could slowly inoculate him against magic if he slowly gave him a little at a time, but he gave him way too much so he needed to kind of jump start the process by giving him more in a controlled dose (it is kind of like if you got bit by an animal with rabies, you get the rabies vaccine right away to amp up your body...maybe?).

I do think they probably could have made this story work without the sex, but this is a fan service slice of life and well, this gets the relationship going quicker so oh well. Plot points kind of I guess.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 19:39

The bodily fluids theory is the winner so far. It also works in the case of children with breastfeeding as a few others have pointed out. Babies slowly get innoculated like that probably but our guy needed that full dose in one shot.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 19:58

> Was very amusing the way both of them were treating it like it was nbd and something that just had to be done.

I didn't really get that vibe from the Aresh. He was really upset when Kondo just walked out on him. Like, setting aside the "you nearly died wtf are you doing" element, he seemed a bit awkward like he was expecting 'the talk' after what happened.

Only to have a door immediately slammed in his face. Sei was literally and metaphorically shutting down Aresh's feelings.

He then proceeds to follow Sei around all day and continue taking care of him, so clearly that night was more than just 'nothing' to him.

Especially since everyone else seemed surprised that Aresh was taking an interest in someone. He is apparently as aloof as he is broody, so him immediately taking a close interest in someone was notable.

And that 'someone' just happens to be someone he slept with the night before XD

Aresh just seems like a socially awkward person that just doesn't know how to deal with how much of a workaholic Sei is.

His irritability is clearly a tsundere thing XD

shatteredauthor2026-01-13 21:47

Yea Aresh was definetly not treating it like NBD. I think from his perspective he was, for the sake of being a good person, forced to give extreme first aid for an extreme overdose and overwork collapse only for his patient to wake up and immediately charge right back into the situation that forced treatment and even when he is confronted on his self-destructive behavior he just shrugs it off entirely. I think his working with the Saintess girl only make the situation worse, as they have basically polar opposite attitudes to work. she is just taking it as a fun chance to be surrounded by hot tutors, barely even giving thought (or at least voice) to the fact that she will be putting her life on the line. While the Bean Counter *doesn't* have to work at all, let alone put his life on the line, and he is doing exactly that when NOBODY ELSE in his department is.

Well, Aresh has very cute tsun attitude so I'll be ok with another episode or two of this, which is something I never thought I would say as I usually can't take that much tsundere.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 22:11

Tsun dudes are rare, but it helps that it's a more subdued Tsundere.

I simply cannot stand baka-braying abusers slapping people around left and right because they can't control their own emotions.

Aresh is irritable, yes, but that's because he just can't process Sei's far more irrational behavior. The man nearly died and just charges straight back into the meat grinder.

Forget the sex, that's the insane part. And yes, there was also the sex. Like... holy shit, at least have "the talk" about expectations and what not so the other person doesn't feel used and discarded.

However, Sei clearly was affected by his night with the knight, it's just he's too much of a corporate slave he can't process what just happened. Not any of it. He can't process how he nearly died nor the intimacy he just shared. He can only focus on the work he 'missed out on.'

And that's throwing Aresh off balance, as he realized the guy he just saved is hopeless and needs a serious intervention before he just drives himself back into the ground. And what was the point of the intimacy they shared if this hopeless fool is just going to immediately get himself killed afterwards?

It's a lot more understandable than some high school girl yelling at a guy because she can't accept nor understand the crush she has.

MandisaW2026-01-14 06:00

Strip away the magic and the sexual healing, and it's an EMT or Dr who just saved an OD patient - who immediately tries to score.

Totally reasonable that Cmdr-kun wants to save Sei, given that he has a "Help the People" sort of career.

(Especially as Friend-kun mentioned he's a high-ranking noble - not typically the type you find in frontline meat grinder jobs.)

Never worked in healthcare myself, but as I understand, part of the training is to care without losing yourself. Either Aresh never got that, or Sei has gotten under *his* skin.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-14 02:54

You're right. I went back and checked and Aresh is a bit taken aback when Sei goes alright give it to me. He didn't expect Sei to be so nonchalant about it all.

And walking out on him the next morning was so harsh. My poor boy Aresh just about lost it at that and understandably so too.

I like Aresh's type of tsun. It feels more relatable than that type usually is to me. A lot of it is the dynamic of the two. Sei is just so ridiculously workcrazy that it seems reasonable for Aresh not to know what to do with this guy!

thelightlovekindled2026-01-13 20:00

It's about scale -- you can see from when he gets the small spell cast on him in the doctor's exam, Indo holds his hand for a little bit and that's enough to counter the effects of the spell. Most people in this world already have a higher baseline anyway. That combined with magic apparently being both somewhat rare to wield and super expensive in the first place, your average person is in no danger.

.....that said clearly this still happens SOMETIMES since it exists as a (common?) treatment in the first place. I assume probably in the magic orders?

Sei is so worried about paying him back, but I headcanon part of why Indo is so nonchalant about the situation is because he fucked up the treatment. Surely they're supposed to be aware of this kind of possibility and act accordingly! I bet "misjudged your own strength and made someone magic sick" is like an unforced error in baseball -- embarrassing and nobody lets you live it down.

JasonFreeYT2026-01-13 16:55

unsurprised that normies don't like this lmfao, oh well, more good food for the fujos and fudans

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-13 18:18

I wonder how long they would have lasted without the (implied) sex scene.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 20:13

OMG THEY ARE JUST FRIENDS! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE EVERYTHING SO WEIRD BY BRINGING YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS/'POLITICS' INTO EVERYTHING!

/s

No, but seriously, it would be hilarious to see how far those snowflakes would last if this was more of a slowburn BL. And how much worse the meltdown would be if they were 'tricked' into watching for 10+ episodes before realizing they were enjoying a 'gay' show.

People need to seriously learn to chill.

BosuW2026-01-13 20:52

If Yuri subtext shows are any indication they very well could last several seasons in denial.

OldInstruction53682026-01-13 21:35

I'm also having flashbacks to the "Case Study of Vanitas."

Yeah, I don't give a shit what the 'canon' pairings are, that series was a raging rainbowtease where every gay ship possible had better chemistry than the straight pairings.

It was so bad, that the two lady loves for our strapping lads had better chemistry *with each other* than with the boys. And forget how gay the subtext between Vanitas and Noe was... holy forking shirt balls, Batman, rainbows were sparkling in every scene.

But just pointing out how it's more than a little gay for two dudes to dance with each other while one thinks about how much his heart is fluttering? About how he's overcome with desire at the thought of drinking the other guy's blood? About how he can barely control his urge to sink his teeth into the other dude and drink deep of his 'sweet taste?"

Yeah, that show was super fucking gay, and yet, if you tried to point that out...

OMG THEY ARE JUST FRIENDS WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!

*sigh*

Look, I'm straight myself and don't go out of my way to watch gay stuff. But even I felt blueballed by Vanitas, as the gay chemistry was through the roof and the straight pairings were all hella toxic and/or flat in comparison. It felt like being cheated or the author was a coward that wouldn't fully commit to the bit.

Personally, I blame the author. She is apparently notorious for gay baiting, which is made all the worse because she also struggles to write good straight romances. So all the characters have great gay chemistry with tacked on straight relationships.

IDK, I'll shut up now >.>

BosuW2026-01-13 21:41

I mean, for all that I agree that many straight stories across many different genres have a perplexing habit of writing same sex bait pairings with a billion times better chemistry than their straight poster couples, I actually thought Vinatas and Jeanne a pretty good dynamic with each other.

_Vanitas no Carte_ definitely be baiting, but at least it doesn't sell delusions about which parings are the intended endgame. It just really leans on lustful vampires tropes.

The_forgettable_guy2026-01-13 17:02

So I didn't actually check out the tags before starting the show, and was actually wondering if it was real gay, or pseudo gay (like Yuri on Ice), and I guess I got my answer lol.

But I am curious, who is the target audience for this? Mainly because of the isekai and salaryman theme, is this supposed to be aimed at men? Because I feel like the theme doesn't seem very interesting for women.

Ajhale2026-01-13 17:05

BL as a genre is generally targeted at women

The_forgettable_guy2026-01-13 17:10

Yeah, but I feel like from the typical BL snips I just come across, this setting seems kind of dull, and more for like mainstream, maybe male audiences.

For example we got **Salaryman ga Isekai ni Ittara Shitennou ni Natta Hanashi**, same time last year, and that was definitely more male focused (but still boring IMO)

LuNaRNIghts2026-01-13 17:13

BL is mostly for female audience though

nowayseriouslee2026-01-13 17:19

I'm just curious, why do isekai anime have to target a particular gender? After so much grimdark stuff aimed at the general otaku public, the unbeatable boss would be "male gay sex" stuff.

The_forgettable_guy2026-01-13 17:35

Because isekai tends to be an excuse to make the protagonist very intelligent, or very strong, or both. Which women don't really prize on.

DocMcCoy2026-01-13 17:31

I don't care. I'm a bi dude and I want to see more gay sex, more lesbian sex, more queer representation of any kind all around, in anime. Simple as

caresi2026-01-13 17:34

Why would this be aimed at men just because it's isekai and because it has a salaryman as the protagonist? BL tends to be targeted at women, this show is just giving BL fans some much deserved junk food (isekai wish fulfillment). I personally get bored of romance, incl BL, set in the modern world - I like fantasy and sci-fi, and I'm glad this show has a more interesting setting than "literally just modern Japan", even if it's a fairly generic European-inspired fantasy with magic.

The_forgettable_guy2026-01-13 17:36

Men as in gay men. I'm sure they have their own standard expectations of character roles.

And as you wrote, fantasy/sci-fi seems to be better themes for BL, since isekai tends to be about giving excuses for power fantasies.

caresi2026-01-13 17:47

BL isn't usually aimed at gay men, and a lot of them prefer geikomi instead, which, afaik has, like, no anime whatsoever.

Haven't we had a billion "I got isekai'd and I'm gonna live a nice, quiet life" anime in the last few years? imo isekai is more wish fulfillment than just power fantasy - power fantasy (being the strongest/smartest/etc) can be a kind of wish fulfillment of course, and there's a lot of anime like that, but "my previous life was so stressful, I'm just gonna chill" is also extremely common, I'm pretty sure. And usually the main guy gets a pretty girl, or several, this one just gets a pretty guy instead.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-13 17:52

Women like fantasy and have jobs too. Why would this not be interesting for us?

tatobson2026-01-13 17:12

I had my brushings with BL before but nothing remotely THIS gay, is a fun watch.

PepaTK2026-01-13 18:32

Right? I didn’t know it was BL until the ED of ep1.

I’ve never watched BL, as long as the show is good I don’t care.

Seems like a good isekai so far tbh I’ll continue to watch until it sucks /shrug

speedfilly2026-01-13 19:30

Honest this was me too. I am enjoying the more slice of life isekai these days so I enjoyed the first episode even before putting together the BL part.

speedfilly2026-01-13 19:29

It also looks like there is a second BL one on crunchyroll this season, or at least "A Gentle Noble's Vacation Recommendation" is hinting that way. ML is also tall with black hair too. We have a type here.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 20:16

my first one was My New Boss is Goofy; mostly a subtext-only, but still featured impossibly tall handsome guys together in a bromance

it opened up for me that love is love, and a lot of the things i like in a relationship story are still there regardless of the genders like mutual support, comfort, and understanding

dododomo2026-01-13 20:46

My new boss is goofy is what I'd call a "BL without BL tag" XD. Someone said that the former boss may be a metaphor for an abusive ex-boyfriend/girlfriend who still harass you despite you're in a new relationship, and honestly that makes perfectly sense imo.

Anyway, May I suggest you "Cherry Magic! 30 years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard" (BL romcoms with two adult couples. No smut, but ), "Yuri on Ice" (like my new boss is goofy but more obvious. No smut, and the main focus is on the ice skating) and "The summer Hikaru died" (seinen queer coming of age story with horror and psychological thriller. However, the MC is clearly homosexual and the other main character has a special bond with him)?

cyberscythe2026-01-13 21:39

yeah, the former boss is definitely an allegory for an abusive ex and then learning to open up and love again; i really can't see an interpretation for anything besides that

i also watched Cherry Magic because i was like "well, in for a penny, in for a pound" (so to speak); it's much more of an explicit romance while also featuring adult characters who make adult decisions, and the mind-reading plot gimmick (and alcohol, lol) helps drive the plot at speeds faster than the typical high school romance

if i were to recommend another borderline series, it'd be How I Attended an All-Guy's Mixer which despite how the title sounds is not a same-sex/BL series, but does feature women who cosplay in masculine roles and the guys who fall for them; it's more of a comfy comedy series, which is more my taste

YourNeighbourWizard2026-01-13 17:24

I was happy to see a BL anime, but as a slow burn fan I don't like the off screen action on the second episode already, way too fast!

Talukita2026-01-13 17:28

I was wondering 'huh it's just the kiss why did he need to strip-' and then saw the later part lol.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 20:22

it was nice of him to ask for consent, but i feel like he should've explained in more detail what he was consenting too exactly because i think Sei was also like "uh... why are we getting naked"

he was still on board for the rest of the treatment though, so i guess it worked out

NoNameSwitzerland2026-01-13 21:26

He is Japanese. So he should have realised into what kind of world he isekaied.

shatteredauthor2026-01-13 21:51

I think this might be the first anime that I have ever seen where even a kiss based magical treatment was prefaced with consent and proper explanation as soon as the situation allowed for it. As for why he didn't properly explain it, I think he just assumed that the MC was much more aware of how magic works, at least on the most basic of levels, that he really was. Presumably since he was laying half-naked in bed with Aresh literatly on top of him getting more and more close, he assumed that if there was a problem with the "treatment" the MC would speak up and say so lol.

tasoula2026-01-14 02:33

You also have to consider that Seiichirou is actively dying while they're talking.

PracticalMarsupial2026-01-13 23:31

When Aresh said he'd need to go all the way and Sei was just like, "I think I know what to expect" I figured we were going to cut to something non-sexual to kinda laugh at us perverts thinking about sex (Sei included) . I was wrong, lol.

I really like Aresh's fantasy hoodie at dinner, as well.

cyberscythe2026-01-14 00:11

> Sei was just like, "I think I know what to expect"

and then Aresh pulls out the three seashells and a tuba, and Sei is like "okay now i'm lost again"

[](#morethanonewaifu)

Meander0612026-01-14 01:25

The "fantasy hoodie" was definitely hot.

Furin2026-01-13 17:34

Well

I didn't expect them to bang by episode 2 already. lol

dododomo2026-01-13 17:46

Meanwhile there are shounen romcoms where the couples aren't official/don't even hold hands until season 2-3 XD

One of the reasons why I Like BL is that at least they end up together soon and we get more dating contents (while many romcoms end as soon as the two main characters end up together)

KderNacht2026-01-14 02:10

Part of the reason the only straight romcom I got into was Horimiya. No nonsense, and the filler is after they got together

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:39

it's wild how the show went from "oh it's just subtext" in episode 1 all the way to (mostly off-screen) sex at the start of episode 2

roryteller2026-01-13 17:38

Haha I knew it was BL but I didn't expect a do or die trope already in episode two. Even after Kondo collapsed in the street I was expecting more of a hurt/comfort scene or something.

He really does have no self-preservation though.

HolyDragSwd25002026-01-13 18:03

What a way to treat his mana sickness 🤩

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-13 18:16

The moment Kondou said "I feel so hot" I knew where this was going, I find it a little unfortunate it went in this direction straight away especially in this way, but Aresh's reaction when Kondou ran out after the night they spent was so funny.

I like how much Aresh is concerned about Kondou's health when all he wants to do is just go back to work. It's funny how Kondou was genuinely considering giving up his body each night so that he can take the tonics lol.

Atharaphelun2026-01-13 18:35

> The moment Kondou said "I feel so hot" I knew where this was going

After that line, I was half-expecting pheromones to come into play...

speedfilly2026-01-13 19:35

Right? The feel so hot trope. I must release the heat in order to survive. I guess in his situation he needed more heat, stoke the fire. Be the fire.

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:40

> Aresh's reaction when Kondou ran out after the night they spent was so funny

Sei gave him the "wham, bam, thank you mister" treatment

[](#sassyimouto)

cleaulem2026-01-13 18:21

Seiichirou considering getting the "magic wand" treatment on a regular basis only so he can continue working himself to death is some interesting dedication.

Even though I hope that he eventually drops that slave drone mentality. At this point it starts being irritating.

hevbop2026-01-13 20:05

Magic wand has me rolling lmaoo

shatteredauthor2026-01-13 21:53

Look, you know what they say "Die doing what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life!" He just took it MUCH more literately that most haha

shadebug2026-01-13 18:38

I wonder how long they’ll drag out the… never mind then

shadebug2026-01-13 18:40

I was really expecting them to have some magic acclimation plugs and he would have to practise using progressively larger ones until he was able to handle all of the knight commander’s substantial magic. But no, they just raw dogged it, because of the medical emergency of course

Isofruit2026-01-13 18:42

I was beside myself with laughter when the answer to health problems turned out to be getting the D from your sexy superior.

Never seen a BL anime before, so that one really surprised me, but the shoehorning of it into the plot is hilarious so that alone definitely will get me to keep watching.

Mean_Muffin1612026-01-13 19:18

I really wasn’t expecting him to get butt fucked to good health.

Calwings2026-01-13 23:57

I figured it was going to be some sort of "mana transfer" thing, and if you remember how "mana transfer" was mostly done in the Fate series... yeah...

MandisaW2026-01-14 06:41

Fate ruins people 😄

(As an occasional Type-Moon fan who only ever skirts the edge of Fate LOL)

cyberscythe2026-01-13 19:44

> the answer to health problems turned out to be getting the D from your sexy superior

this is no laughing matter; have you not read the seminal self-help book [How to Good-bye Depression: If You Constrict Anus 100 Times Everyday. Malarkey? or Effective Way? By Hiroyuki Nishigaki](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/331807.How_to_Good_Bye_Depression)

gnome-cop2026-01-13 19:53

I wonder if someone has written the hot CEO/office worker AU for this yet.

Muffin-zetta2026-01-13 18:53

Man the yaoi was a lot more subtle last week XD

testthrowawayzz2026-01-13 19:08

Lol of course “mana transfer” is needed to cure magic sickness.

Based on the commander’s reactions after the fact when Kondou dashed out, looks like he is a big tsundere/kuudere

eggplant_avenger2026-01-13 19:25

I don’t read tags (didn’t realise they existed) so I was fully prepared for this to be a crackship… only for it to sail in episode 2. and in such spectacular fashion.

AceSoldia2026-01-13 19:29

I did not expect any of what just happen. Wtf. Lmao sex to regain strength is some Fate shit.

gnome-cop2026-01-13 19:47

Oh, so we’re operating on Fate mana transfer logic here?

Yes, he sure “slept” well.

No excuses, you are now under Aresh custody until you prove that you can you can be trusted to not overwork yourself to death. It’s for your own good.

Eight hours of sleep, no overtime, regular breaks and good meals, you will get healthy lifestyle even if he has to ensure it himself, damn it all.

It should not be this entertaining just how done Aresh is with this no self-preservation idiot.

Mana transfer handholding?! Gasp, how scandalous. But very cute so I’ll let it slide this time.

Scythe3512026-01-13 20:39

Wow. This progression feels unnaturally forced.

randomisawesome2026-01-13 20:58

I knew what was coming. I had emotionally prepared myself. It did not stop me from giggling like a maniac at 2am when the jobs healthcare benefits kicked in.

SpaceMethJunkie2026-01-13 21:29

I should've also watched right as it released instead of my lunch break. Instead I was thinking about work... Seiichirou mindset be hitting

SpaceMethJunkie2026-01-13 21:18

Good ol' BL logic hehe...

DocMcCoy2026-01-13 21:19

Getting forced to eat well, sleep well, taking work lightly... I can really see how that's a wish fulfillment for a corporate drone from a country like Japan that has a terrible work culture

And the pampering boyfriend and say gex is a nice bonus :)

zappingbluelight2026-01-13 21:22

It took me too long to understand what he meant by lower back hurting. I'm so sorry.

Southern-Beginning922026-01-13 21:25

I gotta say I started watching this because I thought "oh god, an accounting isekai, that's so dumb, can't wait", didn't expect the gay sex haha Was pleasantly surprised. I'm really enjoying everything about this one so far.

_Ridley2026-01-13 21:33

And we're off! After a steamy night of fuck or die, our exhausted accountant takes off in a hurry the morning after, leaving Aresh to question his choices in life. I love how he turns full tsundere, scowling as hard as he can, yet doggedly dragging Kondou out to eat. They may already have hooked up, but there's plenty of space for honest feelings and healthy choices to grow. The romance has its work cut out for it, and I'm excited to watch them figure it out.

Dull_Spot_82132026-01-14 00:15

Sei agreed real easy there, and was seriously considering that second offer if it meant he could take more drugs. My brother in bad health, please listen to the tsundere. Do better. Fuck work. And fuck after work for good measure.

New-Palpitation-43082026-01-13 22:37

most of the comments are neutral/positive, this post has 180+ comments and had 60 upvotes when i first came here and now only has 53, hate to see ppl coming here just to downvote

Williukea2026-01-13 23:21

That Time I Agreed To Be A Noble Knight's Prostitute In Exchange Of Using A Drug And Overworking And Barely Eating Or Sleeping

Low_Brass_Rumble2026-01-13 23:37

"Well your majesty, I realized that the otherworlders aren't yet acclimated to the magic of our world, so to keep them safe, I took it upon myself to absolutely rail the rockin' twink in the accounting office all night long."

"...Commander, when I asked 'do you have anything to report about your company,' that's not what I meant."

MandisaW2026-01-14 07:44

In the interest of national security 😂

half-a-maderaka2026-01-13 23:46

With how long it takes romance anime to get anywhere, I'm for it here in episode 2. I haven't seen one in years. Last one I saw was... 'Togainu no Chi' I believe and wasn't such a great watch.

I love anime with a bunch of politics in it - so I'm hoping MC goes deeper into the budget of the kingdom and expands. Maybe he'll become an angel investor in some small thing, but don't think it'll go that way lol.

The commander being an overbearing work husbando is definitely the vibes I got from episode one. AND the side eyeing of MC considering it to do it more just to get some more health tonics, loving it.

IceSmiley2026-01-14 00:01

Oh my god I thought I had a good idea of the direction of this series but I was COMPLETELY off! I thought the main focus would be Kondou uncovering corruption and possible harm to the girl who has to kill the miasma while dealing with addiction. This was the most covert yaoi I've ever seen! The closing credits should have made it more obvious to me but maybe I just zoned out on them last week 🤣

It's kind of pervy writing for someone to give someone immunity to magic by fucking them in the ass. At first I thought both guys hated it but Indolark just didn't want him to die. I don't think either guy even disliked it. I'm going to rewatch last week's episode to see if they hint toward this at all, I probably missed them because the thought didn't occur to me.

Kondou has a clear tonic addiction. He sees not being able to have it anymore as the worst thing that could possibly happen. The way he was thinking he'd ask the chemist for a lighter version of the tonic made me think of how serious alcoholics sometimes get off liquor and try to limit themselves to beer or wine. He even considered having Indolark regularly heal him sexually just to be able to enjoy it although I think he might not even find that prospect unpleasant. They did leave it unclear though if drinking that tonic a lot is bad for normal people in that world or even bad at all.

Also interesting was how everything else got pushed to the backburner, like the spending corruption and the girl and others possibly being killed by miasma. It mainly focused on Indolark nursing Kondou back to health. Norbert commented he was surprised Indolark cared about anyone and it made me wonder how commonplace and acceptable homosexuality is in that world and if that could be the reason he acts cold and closed off.

CloverClubx2026-01-14 00:01

The downvotes compared to EP1 LMAO, you disgusting homophobes are so sensitive.

LivingAngryCheese2026-01-14 00:18

Icl I didn't realise this was BL upon starting it, I got the vibes but thought it was just gonna be queerbaiting, was not expecting the porno plot lmao. Haven't watched a BL before but I'm enjoying it :)

Comprehensive_Fan6852026-01-14 00:51

OH lmao I must be dense asf bc i didn’t even know that this was a BL until he started taking his shirt off and I was like WHOA WHOA BUDDY 😭 but damn okay I guess I’m watching a BL now lol

babaylan892026-01-14 00:59

for people complaining its not a slow burn, having sex doesnt automatically make them officially together or in love with each other. i view this things differently and still consider this a slow burn romance.

anti-valentine2026-01-14 01:35

Ah I will also say as a BL lover, it is nice to have an actual BL airing right now. I just feel like we only have old or implied stuff and we never actually get any content. So yay for us!

tasoula2026-01-14 02:18

Consent king Aresh I love you.

Mesopholese2026-01-14 02:24

Very funny people seem to think that them having sex so soon definitionally means there isn’t going to be a “slow burn” or that we are already at the “finish line” of the romance, so to speak. Guys, Heated Rivalry did the exact same dynamic (sex AND THEN feelings) not a month ago! lmao. BL operates by different rules/tropes!

e_t_2026-01-14 04:44

"The nausea goes away after vomiting"

MandisaW2026-01-14 08:50

So matter-of-factly like this is just his everyday life, before & after summoning. More proof that our boy maybe was not long for this world in *either* world

ordiinarylife2026-01-14 10:11

I know what's happening throughout this anime because I read the light novels a while back - trust and believe that the slow burn romantic feelings do happen, people! This one will make you kick your legs and giggle for sure.

Although, it makes me laugh regarding how many people were "blind sided" by that fact it's a BL and they thought it was just another isekai. My brothers in Christ, do you not watch the trailers?? Do you not read the tags on MAL?? Do you not look up the sources from whence the anime came??