Eris no Seihai • The Holy Grail of Eris - Episode 2 discussion
*Eris no Seihai*, episode 2
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The Lady also had a *very* conspicuous tattoo of a flower on one of her breasts.
The scene before that was Emilia strongly hinting at some greater conspiracy at work, giving Constance a clue to the "truth," then warning Constance that she'll loose her head over this secret like Scarlet before her.
Then there is this talk of a holy relic tied to a nation-ruining evil Goddess...
Yeah, this looks a whole lot bigger than just some dirty politics and petty cat fighting.
That's slander. Eris isn't evil, she was just a bit cranky because she was snubbed and also she hadn't had her hot dog yet
Scarlett's probably 100% flesh 🤣
Connie has a good friend in Kate.
Did she teleport, what 😭
The jumpscare, god lord.
Ah. The boob wallet.
Oh! 🫵🏾 ED TL staff credits! I like the style of the ED.
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I hadn’t realized Kana and Sayumi are meeting again from *Frieren* (Fern and Lawine, respectively) to this show. And Sayumi will be in *another* yuri ,{Kamiina Botan}, for 2026?!
Akazami going from Xylo (*Sentenced to he a Hero*) to Akira (*Invisible Man*) to Randolph (*Holy Grail*) in the ***same day*** is awesome. But he must’ve been busy whenever recording took place, my word. I guess Thursdays are now both Critical Role day and Akazami Day.
Two episodes in and Connie's already in deep.
*[Hmmmmmmm.](https://i.imgur.com/qRW62wq.jpeg)*
You’d think Lily would hide a key like that somewhere more hidden but it was way too easy to find for Constance and Scarlet while nobody else was able to find it.
Is Scarlet’s presence so memorable that Constance muttering her words is enough to strike fear in the hearts of many? I like how Constance goes on spectator mode when Scarlet takes over instead of just blacking out like last time. They gotta be careful tho before somebody sends Constance to the loony bin for having multiple personalities.
She was a real *menace* to society, even if she innocent of what took her out.
It looks like Lily knew how to keep her head down and knew when *not* to poke. Unlike Scarlet who probably poked everyone all the time.
Yeah, that phrase she found meant she uncovered *something* that probably aimed to throw the country into discord.
Scarlet is the high school bully whose insults you still remember on your deathbed
We've got Scarlett's frame job and now Lily's murder. The web's getting more and more tangled. Interested to see where they all lead to.
Well, last episode one of the spectators for the "Constance" x Pamela cat fight name dropped Scarlet. Something like "Watching Constance, I could almost believe Scarlett escaped from Hell!"
So yeah, people are *noticing.* And the more this drags on, and the more Constance interacts with those that were close to Scarlet...
It's inevitable.
Especially since we have 2.5 people already connecting Connie to Scarlet. Emilia obviously saw the resemblance, but Randolph is a rather perceptive one that was already closely watching Connie before the shift in personalities, and was a close associate of Scarlett.
It looked like he immediately pegged the resemblance, from his shocked reaction, and since he's already suspicious of Connie...
yeah.
And this strange girl is digging up ancient history surrounding the dead Vixen.
And then Connie lets something slip that only Scarlet and one other person should have known, such as part of a private conversation, and that's when the hard questions begin.
- [Poison again, huh.](https://i.imgur.com/sjfTMEz.png) [](#csikon) This reeks of a cover-up.
- [Why were those kids looking at her like that…](https://i.imgur.com/kyG82AW.png) [](#sakurathink)
- [Ooh, Scarlett was right…](https://i.imgur.com/x8N3ohs.png)
- [And Lily apparently married him.](https://i.imgur.com/q7UdlKf.png) [](#kotohoops)
- [He noticed the picture was moved?](https://i.imgur.com/AgPyvaa.png) [](#emiliaohdear)
- [Huh…](https://i.imgur.com/JPL6TiZ.png)
- [Oh, interesting.](https://i.imgur.com/dfX1CFn.png) Wasn’t expecting that.
- […this doesn’t surprise me.](https://i.imgur.com/fmXSg2n.png) [](#kukuku2)
- [Time to attend another ball, huh.](https://i.imgur.com/ffrwoJX.png)
- [Shimmering sky!](https://i.imgur.com/3jRrc8i.png)
- [Emilia saw Scarlett in Constance, huh?](https://i.imgur.com/UsFHAGy.png)
- [Welp.](https://i.imgur.com/H3ofoCm.png)
- [Oh damn.](https://i.imgur.com/GGgORSi.png) [](#gasp)
- [Another shimmering sky!](https://i.imgur.com/QmkbZQn.png)
I'm really enjoying how different this story is compared to your usual villainess anime. [Having Constance sneaking around and donning disguises](https://i.imgur.com/63bG2is.jpeg) while she tries to solve a murder mystery with Scarlet's help, is actually pretty awesome. [Scarlet really saved Constance's ass](https://i.imgur.com/6VYVFPJ.jpeg) when she got questioned by Randolph.
I don't think Randolph is the enemy tho. The dude seems to be [also trying to figure out who killed his wife](https://i.imgur.com/JVr5OEP.jpeg), so maybe he'll become an asset to Constance and Scarlet later on.
[Scarlet taking over Constance was fun.](https://i.imgur.com/Wsfkij3.jpeg) I thought they'd share a body, but it turns out, [Scarlet literally kicks Constance's soul out](https://i.imgur.com/mb5fUAK.jpeg) when she's taking over.
[Damn. That's one way to hide a secret.](https://i.imgur.com/1E4YjER.jpeg) I guess there's some sort of shady Illuminati-type organization working behind the scenes and likely the ones responsible for Lily's "suicide".
What if the ghost / spirit of Lily appeared too, with the souls of Constance, Scarlett and Lily taking turns to control Constance's physical body?
If so (as seems likely), I would assume that same organization was responsible for framing Scarlet and causing her to be "judicially murdered".
Randolph hopefully WILL be a good guy -- and helper. Constance's friend Kate strikes me as someone who could have stepped right out of Anne of Green Gables (visually and personality-wise) -- so homey and dependable-seeming.
The relationship between Scarlet and Constance is extremely entertaining, in iself this makes this a sure-fire keeper.
Constance hyping scarlet in that scene is absolutely adorable, ngl.
I also howled at Constance reluctantly diving herself to the fountain after commanded by Scarlet. We may don't see it, but the voice acting really sold that scene lmao.
> I also howled at Constance reluctantly diving herself to the fountain after commanded by Scarlet.
This series is really delivering on a much wider range of entertainment than one might initially suspect for the genre!
Doesn't hurt that the pacing and directorial beats have been spot on for every thing it tries its hand at.
Although in addition to hyping, I think Constance may also be having a bit of omg-it's-me-but-a-much-cooler-me-that-handles-it-all moment lol
Didn't she die 2 years ago? If he's still trying to figure things out and never found her little present behind the painting then he is woefully slow.
One thing worth noting, the gentleman Aisha Huxley arrives with is the same guy kissing women while saying the code phrase “Kiriki Kirikuku.” Scarlett calls her “Aisha Spencer” at one point and it makes me wonder if Aisha is married and took the surname Huxley.
We were introduced to 3 other important(?) characters in this episode.
Lily. Deceased. Most likely murdered despite being deemed resourceful by Scarlett.
Randoph. Husband of Lily. Perhaps he could be an ally if Constance and Scarlett intend to solve Lily's murder?
Emilia. I feel she is on at least friendly terms with Scarlett in the past?
I love the Constance and Scarlett dynamic.
I love how well Kana Ichinose does in embodying Scarlett in Constance's body.
I love how beautiful, charismatic, and cunning Scarlett is.
Scarlett was framed for trying to poison Cecilia. She doesn't know who did it or how, but she's not about to let this injustice done to her go unpunished...and that's where Constance comes in, whether she wants to be part of her revenge crusade or not. Too bad Constance is too "sincere" to let a debt to Scarlett go unpaid.
Wow, Constance is already at the disguise and cosplay part of investigation work! Dressing up as a maid AND a nun in short order! And she looks great in any outfit!
The first step in the Villainess/Noble Girl duo is Lily Orlamunde (MAO!) who was Scarlett's childhood friend and the very pinnacle of what a forthright noblewoman should be, enough to dedicate herself to others to make up for her best friends' crimes...but Scarlett knows better. They weren't besties, at best they seemed to be respectful rivals and peers of their station, but Lily knew Scarlett was being framed and basically gave up on helping her because it was beyond her power to clear her name. She just had to see and bid her a "pleasant" farewell to her while Scarlett was locked up. Anyone who could take Scarlett down without Scarlett even being aware of HOW they did it might be too much for anyone.
It's nice of Constance to be respectful towards Lily's memory...even if she's not the pious girl her reputation would have you believe, as she hid an important clue behind a portrait in a church. If nothing else, Scarlett knew Lily well (and probably vice-versa).
And then in comes Randolph (Yohei Azakami!) who was Lily's husband (to Scarlett's shock) and a bloodhound when it comes to sniffing out suspicious things and possibly criminals. I can only imagine why Scarlett sees him as her "nemesis" and wants to get as far away from him as possible. She can hardly believe Lily married the guy. And no sooner has Sister Lettie gotten away from the guy (and gotten through a trick question thanks to Scarlett) than he figures out Constance did something to the portrait.
Yeah, definitely nothing suspicious about Lily teaching some kids about a code phrase for gauging bad guys.
What is the Holy Grail of Eris, what does that key pertain to, and how was Lily connected to this, let alone Scarlet's frame job? Though it's kind of funny that Eris was both the name of a Goddess and the name Scarlett used to prowl the night.
Constance is now a celebrity thanks to her dressing down of Pamela, even if that was Scarlett in Constance's body. Pamela, for her part, is off with her tail between her legs back to her family domain (but at least she's alive) and Constance forgave Neil and even helped him out with his struggling business after the affair was leaked. He didn't mean it and probably only apologized for his own reputation, but he still apologized and Constance doesn't want to see his employees pay for his mistake. She's too good for this world.
At least Constance can always count on Kate as her gal pal.
The next step of Constance/Scarlet's investigation is a party held by Emilia Goodwin, a known gossip who delights in the misery of others, and singled out Constance as the second coming of Scarlett. Constance doesn't immediately look the part outside when her body is being possessed, but she CAN repeat what Scarlett would say to Emilia to really drive it home.
Um...is that Aisha lady okay? I mean, she seems happy with her boyfriend, but her face looks so withered. Even Scarlett thinks the years haven't been kind to her.
I guess it was too much to expect Randolph not to notice Constance and then grill her for how she was obviously the "sister" he saw before. Play dumb Constance! Of course, when that doesn't work, it's time for Scarlett to jump into Constance' body (which apparently kicks Constance' spirit out of hers) to use her refined sass and wit to steer Randolph away from her. Although considering this is his dead wife we're talking about, I can kind of understand why he's determined to get to the bottom of what Constance was doing.
Is noblewoman smashing wine glasses into the faces of other noblewomen sleeping with their husbands common at these gatherings? I feel like if you threw a coin you'd probably land on somebody cheating with somebody in the nobility.
I'm getting the sense that Emilia was close to or fond of Scarlett, enough to seem really wistful about her memory and give Constance/Scarlet another clue and for Constance to be wary of the dangerous world of nobility she's stepping into. A world of men and women engaging in trysts in shubbery, saying the magic phrase, and taking vials out of womens' cleavage!
The ED feels on-point with Scarlet as a puppet being parroted around...maybe she'll finally be free of her strings eventually.
That title drop
This story becomes much much more interesting if both protagonists have their own affairs and they sometimes disagree.
But we're still early. I don't wanna extrapolate too much from this one episode. Fingers crossed for the next episode, this premise has so so much potential.
Yes, in a partnership, it is hoped that both partners can contribute some specialty to the endeavor.
Fire tv btw.
Like Earl Randolph Ulster.
Putting on my yuri glasses
Yes! This show should be legally obligated to have Constance possessed at some point every episode
God the visual gap in expressions between her normal face and her possessed face is amazing.
Though I also think she felt insulted/incensed that Lily would marry someone Scarlett detests or is beneath their mutual station.
Hmmm yes sweet "in a different society I very very very remotely imagine only every tenth drunken dream that we could have been so much more" doomed relationship
Truly, this too, is Yuri
I don't remember if we already saw that last week, but if so, I hadn't noticed then
It's nice to see someone even Scarlett has trouble with, I hope we see more of Randolph lol.
What’s the punchline to the joke again? Oh right, Lady Lily didn’t kill herself.
Being serious, if she’s wrapped up with Scarlett, she’s almost certainly a menace in her own right.
Though behind the painting is like the most obvious place one could hide a secret object.
“Destroy the holy grail of Eris.” Constance “Grail”, Scarlett’s alias Eris, should I be reading into this or is it just a cheeky reference?
This Lord Death guy seems like someone to watch out for. Could maybe be convinced to cooperate if he’s upset at Lily’s death. There might be some leverage there at least.
Watching Scarlett yeet Constance out of her body and verbally cook people has not ceased to be extremely entertaining. “Hell yeah, destroy that bitch.”
I almost feel like I should add this to the list of shows that I am not intelligent enough to watch like Apothecary Diaries cause I’m not built for mysteries and political intrigue.
I like the fact that Scarlett and Cecilia were birds of a feather in terms of personality though. Interesting that Cecilia appears to have known that something was up and left some clues behind.
Is that Yuu Kobayashi voicing Aisha? If so, nice to hear her two seasons in a row!
So this is going to be a mystery show, hopefully with thriller elements? I can get behind that. I hope it sticks to the main mystery though rather than going "mystery of the week" route like so many do.
Somehow, Japan has managed to take the design of detective/spy/courtroom thrillers from J-Dramas from the past \~30 years, but set it in a nondescript High Victorian setting and slap on a supernatural spin to it.
What's actually amazing is that this manages to work well.
This really is quite different from a normal villainess anime, more of a murder and conspiracy mystery than the usual nonsense that any given 'villainess' tends to get up to.
Lily seems interesting, shame she's already dead. I wonder if Randolph is only going to be a threat in the short term, he might honestly just be a dude who wants to know who killed his wife.
Although I wonder about the level of protection they have; Constance is just a basic human who flies to pieces when faced with the slightest bit of resistance and Scarlett can possess her but, is there anything else? If murderers be about, Constance is an easy target.
Of course, Randolph could be that bodyguard type so we'll see what happens.
If magic spells exist though, and an evil Goddess, and vials of who knows what - drugs? - then do we get a level up, lol?
What I'm curious is what Constance will be contributing. Scarlet (and Lily) already clearly failed so why would they succeed this time (I am assuming our protagonists will prevail)? Constance is the difference but I hope her contribution will actually feel meaningful and not forced in.