Champignon no Majo • Champignon Witch - Episode 3 discussion

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So one curse youngling’s found another. I can understand why she would take pity on the kid. Doesn’t hurt he’s good looking too.

Not sure how Luna’s gonna get out of this one. She’s up against a council of powerful black witches…,

I’m glad Luna is finding more companionship, even if it’s hard for her to keep her head above water no matter which side of which she’s dealing with.

Luna is everything to the narrator...his dearest, his beloved, someone who taught him so much...and now it's finally time to tell the story of how they met.

I imagine it's very flattering that the first thing Luna ever thought of this blonde boy was how beautiful he was, and how he mustn't be sullied...even with a knife stabbed through his torso.

I see Claude is just one big tsundere who has to figure out the most smooth way to greet Luna as an excuse to see her. Which makes him a convenient body to help lift the boy back to Luna's place! Luna's even got some glitter ready to sweeten the deal!

It should be no problem for the Champignon Witch to absorb whatever poison is seeping through this boy through the knife...at least until she ends up summoning some monstrous mushroom beast that is terrifying and clearly not natural.

The only thing Luna can think to do is run to her master...a sentient, talking, zen giant mushroom who purifies Luna and informs her that the boy is none other than The End of Everything. And yet, as similar existences, Luna can't disassociate herself from this boy, and her master will see this through to the end for as long as he exists. Heavy stuff.

I guess Luna can't take in and shelter The End of Everything without running afoul of the Black Witch Council: featuring the Flame Magician (Satoshi Hino!), the Beast Magician (Daisuke Sakaguchi!), the Fiore Magician (Natsuki Hanae!), Crow's master the Bird Magician (Kosuke Toriumi!), the Japanese-coded Eastern Witch, the Crystal Witch (Aoi Koga?), and the Water Witch (Hisako Kanemoto?) a bit of a benevolent benefactor of Luna's who wants what's best for her...even if no one can actually take her seriously with her choice of masks.

But even she agrees that it's in Luna's best interest to give the kid up. Not only does Claude realize he's probably royalty, and thus connected to the Whites, but if he's The End of All Things...a creature that annihilates everything in its path and was only stopped by this very council of Poison Magicians...then Luna just ended up having him save the end of the world.

Yet against all sense, Luna won't give him up...after all, she was cursed too.

Claude is me fr fr. I have to preplan conversation tactics and then it all goes out the window. Relatable crowbro.

Poor Kinopio 🍄‍🟫

Alexa, play ✨Shiny✨ .

What a wise Grandpa Mushroom with great lashes.

>Fiore Magician

{Fairy Tail} may not be for everyone, but it has such a fire soundtrack and its main theme was instantly what came to mind.

u/italeteller, why did you make me UU-pilled, I’m having Spoil trauma now from this animation of everyone rotting away oh my gods 😭

Those ED TL staff credits aren’t made with the same care as the others I saw. Huh. But I guess that does reflect that middling section where they are showing the names of the witches, but the JP names are beneath the subs, and the name translations on top still have the background dialogue beneath.

But still, there’s a TL staff.

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I have to appreciate again the texture that’s running through everything. It makes the anime feel whimiscal.

Kinopio is my second favorite mushroom. An Zhe (*Little Mushroom*, sci-fi dystopian danmei) is still my favorite mushroom 😌 I can’t believe I can say I have two favorite mushrooms 🍄‍🟫❤️.

I really like the small little things in this show. Like the elder mushroom or whatever you want to call him or just the fact that everyone wears a mask that resembles their "element". Now imagine Luna did that too. Mushroom mask.

However, if Luna was a cursed child herself and she is more or less fine now, then there should be a way to resolve that without killing the child, right? They were able to do it for Luna after all. There might be some drawbacks like how Luna is poisonous to people around her, but they shouldn't need to kill him. I guess there is the potential that he is the son of a white witch and they don't want to deal with that, but still...

Also, it would be even crueler considering that he would probably be able to touch Luna without being poisoned himself. So they would take away the one person that could actually have a fairly normal life with Luna. Why he turned into a child again is something I am not sure about yet though.

If Luna is a former cursed youngling, then the more that they should be a little lenient about it. If they were able heal her way back and made her into a witch that she is now, then they can definitely do it again, given that luna is part of the team.

I think the reason why they want the kid dead is because he is a descendant of white witches.

Interesting... so is the "End" something that appears periodically or is this a prophecy about the end of the world?

So if the Crystal Witch was able to see her pull the mushroom, why wasn’t she able to see the purification through the glowing mushroom? I do agree that it can’t be that easy, but she should have seen that too. Unless of course she just stopped watching after the mushroom was pulled and then went to tell the others instead of watching till the end of that purification, which doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

I’m not really enjoying myself, so this is most likely where the journey ends. Might come back after it finishes to check some discussions and see if it’s worth picking it up again.

Woah why wasn't this the premiere? Now we've got a story going

From what I understand, [Luna just absorbed the poison of something that can destroy the world](https://i.imgur.com/jb6EMBY.jpeg), but it was so much that [she had to ask her mushroom master for help.](https://i.imgur.com/uVw9n8D.jpeg)

[I already love the Water Witch.](https://i.imgur.com/2PlrRtU.jpeg) She's so silly and unserious. I love that taking off her fish mask [just revealed an even sillier conch headgear.](https://i.imgur.com/lS6hqkc.jpeg) xD

So I thought the reason why Luna [refuses to give up the cursed youngling](https://i.imgur.com/r5doAPU.jpeg) is because she fell in love with him. It turns out, [she used to be a cursed youngling herself](https://i.imgur.com/xz8cB2n.jpeg), so this is kinda personal for her. It will be intersting to see how she'll convince them to back off.

Luna having been a “cursed youngling” herself does explain why she’s able to absorb all the poison around her.

The interesting part, however, is how she managed to avert her fate of becoming The End of All Things. I’m guessing that her mushroom master had something to do with this?

Ok I'm just going to ask now. Is this a suffer series? After Izetta: The Last Witch and Maria the Virgin Witch I've got ptsd to witch stories that have a certain style and setup without being clear upfront what they will be.

"This boy is the end of all things!"

\*boy is cute\*

Luna: I can fix him!

I already love Kinopio

Hoping to see more of the Water Witch. She's hilarious

I'm guessing his white witch lineage is the real reason why they want him dead?

The start of the episode was ominous with the way he was talking in the past like she had died

Well, that escalated quickly. It turns out the stabbed boy is cursed to become a monster that will destroy the world and now the black witches want to execute Luna because she wants to protect the poor child. That seems rather extreme when he just got purified of that monster.

And as I expected, Luna is also cursed and probably learned magic to deal with that curse with the help from that… huge glowing talking mushroom, I guess ? I wonder if she thinks she can break the curse. Or maybe she can just keep removing the poison from him as it comes back ? That seems doable and more reasonable than killing a sleeping child.

Also, I am not sure killing him is that easy. He just got stabbed in the heart and thrown down a cliff and lost tons of blood and he is still alive somehow. And he may also be the Crown Prince of the country and descendant of White Witches. Is the conflict between Black Witches and White Witches due to him, with the White Witches in power refusing to kill him while the Black Witches think they should ? That would explain why they are accusing Luna of treason.

Not a fan of all this "as you know" exposition. It's all so very clumsy

Noticing she hasn't been leaving a mushroom trail this episode, wonder if that means anything or just a 'don't think about it'

...Water witch really took off that fish for an even more ridiculous headpiece. The first one was fishy but I hat the second one.

Hmm, I like the art a lot, and the general story, but I just watched 10 minutes of:

[Champignon Witch]>!Council: “Give us that horrible cursed thing!” Witch: “I neutralised the curse.” Council: “Let’s just ignore that and your obviously convenient powers that we certainly all know about, and that cursed beings obviously don’t *have* to die, and dispose of it anyway.”!<

Claude isn't "me fr fr" at all, he's choosing the safe script while Luna is actually risking connection, and that's the point. Their contrast felt intentional this episode.

I love when shoujos venture into not only fantasy but also adventure genre too. This is shaping up to be one with how bigger factions will be at play. And of course being a high ranking noble of a white witch line would make him a great target. Shame he got so young though, slightly giving me a young Arthur vibe.

Pardon me, Witches, but that boy has had an open stab wound in his chest and been unconscious from blood loss for several hours, are we really worried about him surviving?

My pet conspiracy theory is that the black witch council seiyuu (some of them, at least) were picked partially for their names.

Bird Magician and Flower Magician match up perfectly to Toriumi and Hanae (鳥 and 花), it kind of matches up for Water Witch and Kawasumi (水 and 川) as well as Flame Magician and Hino (焔 and 日), and I don't really have anything for Crystal Witch and Beast Magician (and Eastern Witch doesn't have a VA listed yet). Now I'm just looking at the other characters, especially Luna, to see if their VA choices reveal anything because I've lost my mind. Shiraishi 白石 means "white stone" which, like, yeah, the moon (Luna) is a white-colored rock, so it could mean something.

Was this all on purpose. Is it a coincidence. I believe in conspiracy theories now, I think.

This anime's tone is so crazy. Happy warm and charming but evil Death and decay monsters. Then conch shell hat.
I can't 😂 what an atmosphere.

I'd like to think Luna understands what the boy is about to go through being a previously cursed being herself. So she wants to save him from that life.

By the end of this She'll be companionship witch 🥹

Distracting Claude with shiny rocks seems very offensive to bird person culture.

I love the mushroom fort Luna grew around herself. By how it looks you'd think it would be completely useless, but Claude still couldn't get through it.

Kind of feels like everything with Henri in the first two episodes was kind of pointless other than establishing Luna as being a lonely girl. But on the other hand I suppose it's important to have that setup as part of the explanation for why she's so desperate to hold on to this new cursed child.

Fish witch best witch.

Not sure if Crow Guy is giving off more tsundere male lead vibes or more losing heroine vibes at this point.

Oh, so she was once a cursed child too? That makes her actions make more sense. I thought she was just doing it out of a misplaced sense of justice, but if it's instead about empathy and the knowledge that there is a solution (maybe? not sure how similar their situations are, maybe Luna took a super rare 1-use item they don't have anymore, or it has something to do with her mushroom master that can't be replicated anymore), then I guess I get it? I wouldn't say it's worth risking the world over, but if whoever saved her thought the same way, she'd be dead, so I understand her reasons.

This anime somehow keeps getting better. I just really love the world building being done here and how we're naturally being introduced to so many novel concepts that exist in this world. I also love how they still manage to flawlessly balance these more serious themes of The End of All Things, cursed children etc. with the more whimsical and happy themes of pure Luna and her fairytale animal companions.

Also I have to highlight once again how well this anime is produced. The music remains great (the opening is just excellent), but I also really loved the scene that introduced The End of All Things. It was stylistically unique, highlighting the importance of this exposition. It reminded me very much of how the deathly hallows were introduced in Harry Potter. Overall just very smart directing.

Also I really wanna see more of these black witches. They have amazing designs and loo like a very fun and interesting bunch of characters. Same goes for Luna's mushroom master. Man I really want to jump right iinto the manga for this one, but I think I'll hold myself back for now as I really love the anime adaptation right now and for now want to continue this blind.

Also it's crazy how this show and the original manga isn't close to as hyped as other fantasy shows, since as of right now I like it maybe just as much as the "big 3" in Witch Hat Atelier, Dungeon Meshi and Frieren, which is enormous praise as I really, really love these 3. This show is really criminally underwatched!

Claude is just an exposition machine, now.

Im really enjoying this so far. Luna is just so precious. But wow I have so many questions. 

Based off the introduction it seems like Luna perhaps dies or this is more of an account of her journey with this boy the cursed youngling. 

Which wow did not see Luna also being or once being a cursed youngling. 

Also, I’m thinking the dark witch counsel may have been the ones who stabbed him or tried to kill him to begin with. Which is why they were watching Luna because she ended up taking him to her home before he was completely dead. This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Otherwise, I don’t get why they’d just be keeping an eye on Luna. Like that cut to them just being in her room was very jarring. 

I wonder why the dark witch counsel is so adamant on killing the cursed boy tho. If Luna was once a cursed youngling there must have been a way to save her, right? My only guess is that she maybe become the “end” and took out most of the poison witches that could heal her…. Meaning there are no longer those types of witches left to try and cure this cursed boy. Yet, this doesn’t make complete sense to me because Luna was able to take the poison from him. Yes, it was a bit too much for her but she was able to remove it and neutralize the poison thanks to master mushroom. If she slowly took the poison from him that he’s unable to release she’d be able to save him no? So far the only difference between him and her is that he doesn’t seem to be able to neutralize the poison that builds up into his body. Luna can by creating her mushrooms so could he not learn to do this? He’s also a white witch so he should have skills in magic, right?  

Also, if Luna having been a cursed youngling
Is now a poison witch do all cursed younglings eventually have the ability to become poison witches/wizards? If this is the case then shouldn’t we try to save the boy to make more poison witches? I mean it seems like they’re the only type that can save everyone from “the end”. Granted he could become “the end”….  

Also, because this boy is a cursed youngling does that mean Luna could perhaps touch him without killing him or would this still be a no go? I saw that she picked him up but he’s wrapped in a blanket so idk if this counts lol

The way the Water Witch's fish hat swims according to her mood is hilarious (and that it got addressed at all).

It's sad to see Luna driven into a corner like this but at the same time I'm curious to see how crazy desperation "mushroom magic" can be.

Claude was a bit better this episode but forcing him to react with narration to every comment was a bit much. I loved his feeling of betrayal when learning the kid is a cursed youngling though. The animation they did to explain the End of All Things was a great highlight.


Still don't like the tsundere attitude though.


Man... I really wish the Black Council wasn't so damn sketchy. The very fact that all appeared seconds after she returned from her master is sus. It definetly seems like they were damn well aware that he was being kept there and they WAITED for her to return just for the sake of testing her. They could have perfectly well intervened when he was dieing in the river. Hell at this rate I'm betting that Fire Dude is responsible for the assassination attempt.

Note that just last episode Claude was freaking out because of how vulnerable the Black witches and wizards were to an inquisition by the white witches and yet here they are talking about killing off the heir to a witch family! Yea, that's gonna really calm tensions down. (PS: My non-claude ranting should not be interpreted as criticism but interest)

Gotta appreciate the titles of the witches and wizards, like you got your basic elements like Fire and Water, then you got animal related stuff like Beasts and Insects. And then you have the Eastern Witch... Like... just all of "The East." I guess the author ran out of inspiration there huh.

(The following are paraphrased, I don't remember the exact quotes from the episode)

Luna: "His soul is clear"

Master: "That's probably why he would become the End of All Thing"

So I guess we're gearing toward pure soul suffering more than most at seeing all the horrors of the world, and how most people close their eyes to it...

Combined with a witch that absorb poison... I feel like that's indeed not a great combo. An with how he talking in the past tense in the intro narration...

\[My own speculation for the ending\]>!I feel like we're going toward an end where she dies in from on him, probably because of a witch hunt or something that started after she was seen doing something good and helping people in need... and THAT is what triggers his transformation.!<

The dual view from the intro and ending must mean something too...

Wow, that was some bombshell of a revelation about Luna. I wonder how she grew up if she was indeed the cursed youngling.

That fish witch was just hilarious changing her mask into poop. Love the whimsy despite the dark undercurrents.

Random thoughts

Oh...the kid was poisoned as well as stabbed. And trying to pull the poison out reveals a mushroom eldritch abomination. and he is actually the End of all Things? lots of questions here

and now the black witches council is here...also known as the silly hat brigade. Although I like that the all proceed to bash the Water Witch's hat, which is the most ridiculous. At least they take the time to explain why they wear the hats, to hide from the White witches

And...the End of all Things appears to be Hedorah? Clearly they need to befriend Godzilla. But seriously, I did like the animation used for the explanation.

Anyway...decent fast-paced episode. If there is anything you can't complain about this show, its that its slow...

This episode hurt my feelings, but I guess I do get where they're coming from. It's sounds like a pretty heinous cycle that just constantly loops. I'm really curious as to why, like there's got to be something that starts it, no? Also now I'm really excited to learn more about Luna's past, she's been going through it, huh

> understandable if he’s dangerous to eliminate him

> Luna proves she can neutralize the poison.

Logically then they should leave him in her care as now they know exactly where the end of all things is and can control / manage it.

> still want to villainize Luna and the kid.

Claude is kinda… shit. Fuck him

> Luna is an ex end of all things

So there’s obviously another reason why they’re after the kid then. The end of all things is just their excuse.

Claude is still shit.

"Look, a guy is lying in the middle of the stream with a giant dagger stuck in him. He may have fallen from the cliff!"

The End of All Things? That dude doesn't look like Yogiri Takatou.

I was wondering how all those "Black Wizards and Witches" arrived at her hut just minutes after the "transgression", but turned out it's just a Zoom Call.

That entire section of the Black Witch Council turning up, has made me think this show isn't for me.

It is just a little too contrived for me.

The cursed boy’s soul is clear. Which means it’s easy to like plants things in it to grow, like a cup of water and food coloring vs, Dr Pepper and food coloring. I think the problem might be that the boy could always be a danger to grow the mushroom again. But this is my theory and we’ll see. I wonder who the mushroom witch’s master was and how they met. I thought when they were talking she was like the boys opposite but maybe she was also cursed. (All theories but I’m considering starting the manga)

the tuna headpiece is lowkey fire ngl, i would wear that

Well so much happened in this episode

Make sense now that she wants to save him I had my own theory about that too as the episode was happening

I was really curious how they would open up the world story going forward after how ep 1+2 felt like an excellent whimsical prologue. I thought they may make it a episodic short story series, but it looks like there will be a main story that the entire season can follow.

They've done some cool things bringing character to the little creatures of Luna's world, but I felt that this episode displayed very well-done artistic/directing choices within their budget. From the world ending poison scene, to Claude's telling of what the destruction is like, and to music placement at certain moments, I felt that there was a ton of great execution here. Color me impressed.

If black witches and magicians is a catch-all term describing those who are not with the kingdom, why is there also centralized power structure for them?

This council is just a mess. The way they act it kinda fits to not trust or be around black withes. You got Luna doing good even without getting recognized and you got these folks. No wonder she is by herself and not with them.

I just discovered this and binged the first three episodes. What a lovely anime. It wasnt on my radar at all but Ill be tuning in weekly from now on.