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*Gnosia*, episode 14

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ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-17 17:48

Interesting everyone’s all together this time. Right when they got themselves a dangerous wildcard onboard too with this whole AC Follower stuff. I really thought it was Comet at first, then maybe Kukrushka. I’m not sure now though. Now it seems Racio’s been scheming something because he’s a Gnosia. What’s his game?

DownLoad892026-01-17 18:19

I'm thinking Raqio might be the AC Follower and Yuri just said they're a Gnosia to make people question him. Just a guess though haven't thought it through too much...

jester23242026-01-17 18:33

Raqio still only uses they/them pronouns

DownLoad892026-01-17 18:50

You are correct! Fixed it

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 01:36

I don't think that's the case, having the real Engineer lie would be a terrible misplay because

1. Some of the people could realize it's a lie and assume they are Gnosia
2. If the real doctor is alive the following day their result will find a contradiction and cause everyone to suspect the engineer
3. If they freeze the AC follower thinking they are gnosia and the real doctor dies that night then they will play as if there's only 1 gnosia left on board when there's actually 2

Kill-bray2026-01-18 02:08

That's an interesting theory, but I think that's a very questionable strategy. AC followers still count as humans, and if you freeze them that's still 1 less human for Gnosia to achieve their victory condition plus one missed chance for the humans to freeze a Gnosia.

AC followers actually want to be frozen eventually, of course they want to create a bit of chaos first, but getting frozen instead of an actual Gnosia is part of their whole plan.

Sorwest2026-01-17 18:20

We already had a 15 lobby in episode 8, we just skipped the beginning for some reason

Signs252026-01-17 18:02

For a moment I thought Yuri was A.C.'s follower and that this would be the end of the episode.

jester23242026-01-17 18:29

It would be impossible for someone to have two roles, no?

jardex222026-01-17 20:04

They've been sticking pretty close to game rules, and yes, you can't have two roles.

probablylikescats2026-01-19 03:47

I wouldn't say that. In game you can't declare yourself as a Guardian Angel either in discussions or outside of it. Also guard duty isn't automatically known and disclosed by LeVi. I could see AC follower not being a "role" because how would LeVi even know that there's one in the first place? They wouldn't be detectable like the Gnosia are because they're human.

delta_angelfire2026-01-17 20:07

in universe there's been no mention of AC follower being an identified role by the ship, so there's the possibility it plays different than the werewolf sympathizer/henchman/cultist whatever the equivalent is

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-17 22:20

I thought the same with him (secretly) being Gnosia but then I dropped the theory because they showed him being the engineer...

But it may work with him being the AC instead

[](#flustered)

There's definitely something strange going on!

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 01:49

I still think there's a chance Yuri is crazy and sees himself as the engineer when he is actually the AC follower. That's the one way it could be explained how loopers can become AC Followers. It could also explain why Yuriko decided to skip from the start.

Se7en_Sinner2026-01-17 18:03

The AC Follower basically acts as a griefer who wants to ruin the game for everybody. I wonder if it's a role everybody knows about or is information only given to Yuri by Yuriko.

thisisdropd2026-01-17 18:10

Probably the latter. Otherwise, LeVi would've informed the entire crew during the meeting.

YumiyaRakko2026-01-17 20:49

How would you even know there is one on board though ?

steeltrain432026-01-17 21:31

That's the neat part, you don't

Jauretche2026-01-17 23:42

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OldInstruction53682026-01-17 18:18

Definitely the later, which severely ratchets up the difficulty level of this round.

Because why would a human lie? Why would they help the Gnosia get everyone killed?

And yet, if investigated, they come up as human. So even if they cause a bunch of chaos and get voted out as a suspected Gnosia, the Doctor will just confirm that they were human.

Which then forces everyone to reevaluate their decision...

Such as in the case of counter-claimed credentials. If the AC claimed to be Engineer only to be voted out, they would be confirmed human by the Doctor.

Then, a Gnosia claiming to be Doctor would have no reason to lie here and would happily confirm that the AC Engineer was human... because then the crew would turn on the *real* engineer.

If the crew doesn't know about AC's, then they'll just assume that whoever counter-claimed a human was the Gnosia.

Hence why they are such a mindfuck.

jardex222026-01-17 20:02

My guess is that it'll be publicly known in future rounds, so the crew will account for it. Once Setsu knows the role exists, they can explain it using their military background. Yuriko could also reveal it.

This is just a tutorial round that introduces the role and showing how a lying human can influence the meetings.

salic4282026-01-17 18:04

People say they want a fair 15 people game. People get their fair 15 people game.

In this episode, it is as if Yuriko touched some settings to boost everyone's stats. Not only do they lie naturally in front of Yuri (and catch Yuri's lies), those telltale "Gnosia quirks" (e.g. Jina would invite people to EVA, Sha-Ming would refuse to go to meetings, Otome would show teeth, etc.) are all heavily suppressed.

Now I'm really not sure who are the remaining Gnosia. Also what's with that Racio face at the end? Is that a call back to episode 6 (where Racio claimed Guardian Angel and eliminated Yuri)?

steeltrain432026-01-17 21:29

Jonas is the obvious suspect for remaining Gnosia but with the AC present, he could just be a lying human.

Otome was killed first which makes Sha-Ming suspect as well. Since Yuri knows he's the real engineer, investigating Sha-Ming would probably be the best course of action.

BosuW2026-01-18 02:10

Jonas doesn't strike me as the kind of Gnosia to throw a fellow Gnosia under the bus, so I feel pretty confident he's the human liar.

Racio on the other hand absolutely seems machiavellian enough to do so.

Although honestly Racio is suspect the moment they don't immediately accuse Yuri of faking amnesia lol

Chikumori2026-01-18 09:13

>Racio is suspect the moment they don't immediately accuse Yuri of faking amnesia lol

This anime has had so many loops I've lost track of what did or did not happen. Iirc Racio has knowledge of the Silver Key, so if Yuri talks about it and looping, she would have some cause to believe him.

I don't remember Yuri telling Yuriko about it though. Yet she talks with Yuri like she knows he's looping? Might she be a looper too?

Cloudiscloud2026-01-18 09:59

I don't think she's looping, I can't remember what faction she belongs to but I feel like whatever it is is the reason why she knows so much. It's some sort of religion so maybe part of it is real and she's being imparted with the knowledge of what's going on in each Loop , or at least a hint of some sort.

ClioMusa2026-01-18 15:55

They're the group who do uploads, which is what we saw with Gina's mom.

ClioMusa2026-01-18 15:53

Racio isn't a girl. They're the in-universe version of non-binary. Same as Setsu.

AvatarTuner2026-01-18 17:51

> Jonas doesn't strike me as the kind of Gnosia to throw a fellow Gnosia under the bus, so I feel pretty confident he's the human liar.

I mean, he's chaos incarnate so I'm not counting on him making sensible choices or statements. lol After all he also revealed himself being Gnosia in a previous loop by accident.
But if we assume they're both Gnosia: Throwing the already suspicious Comet under the bus would lower the chances of him being detected.

Imo, Comet was super sus, but I still found it hard to tell if she was just nervous of being falsely accused or if it really was her bad lying. She seemed more capable last time she was Gnosia.

If Racio doesn't immediately fake-claim a role in the first loop I think it's more likely they're actually that role. However, it's also sus how Racio didn't get voted out on the first day, so probably Gnosia or AC-Follower. lmao

BosuW2026-01-18 18:35

Yeah but Jonas is chaotic and impulsive, while the Comet sacrifice seems more like something someone planned and calculated.

RellenD2026-01-18 18:42

>Is that a call back to episode 6 (where Racio claimed Guardian Angel and eliminated Yuri)?

This whole episode is a mirror of episode 6. Yuri knew kukrushka was human and got caught out promising to protect her. This time kukrushka is protecting yuri

xbolt902026-01-17 18:06

AC Follower, huh? Someone who's there just to be an agent of chaos. That's a new twist.

We'll see if Yuri can outsmart Racio this time!

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thisisdropd2026-01-17 18:07

It's been a while since we get a proper round since the past few weeks have all been character-focused. Now we also have a full house. To make things trickier, there's the AC follower. In a way they're more dangerous than Gnosias as they could neither be detected by doctors nor engineers. Their existence was also near impossible to prove, and I don't think Yuri's even making any such attempts.

Lautael2026-01-17 18:15

Solid episode! I liked it. Not much to say.

jester23242026-01-17 18:31

Instincts tell me Jonas is the AC follower, if he were gnosia, why turn against Comet like that so easily. It'd be an absolutely terrible play.

bottled_fox2026-01-17 20:31

That, plus Yuriko saying that the AC Follower is insane feels like foreshadowing.

am9qb3JlZmVyZW5jZQ2026-01-18 01:04

That would make the most sense. Jonas was giving his Comet report before Yuri, so he might not have known he's throwing gnosia under the bus. Now Yuri has made his report first, so Jonas knows Racio is confirmed gnosia.

Kill-bray2026-01-18 01:56

Also Kukrushka likely successfully protected Yuri from a Gnosia attack, and it's really unlikely that Gnosia decided to kill Yuri if Jonas was one of them.

I'm not sure if people outside of Yuri know that there's an AC follower, because otherwise in that scenario they would 100% conclude that Jonas is Gnosia.

AvatarTuner2026-01-18 17:58

Him outing himself as Gnosia after the match with Shigemichi was also a terrible play. xD

Jauretche2026-01-17 18:34

The game is at it's best with a full crew, it really makes me want to play this weekend!

Too bad Yuriko was frozzen day one, poor choice, I thought she'd be really interesting this loop.

Comet got me fooled too, I usually trust her as she's not very good at lying herself. Maybe Yuri's intuition stat is bad?

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-17 18:49

We finally got the all star loop! I thought it was going to slow down a bit to see more interactions but the focus of this loop is to actually make it to the end so in the next loop Yuriko will give us the backstory we need.

The introduction of a AC follower makes this quite interesting, Jonas seems really likely to be it but I also did think Chipie initially.

I noticed Racio only gave their report after Remnan both times and even only claimed to be a Doctor after too so I thought that was suspicious. I'm glad it's been confirmed now. However, if Jonas now gets voted out and gets confirmed as human (AC Follower) this will make the others target Yuuri, it'd be interesting to see.

Platipi972026-01-18 00:49

It's technically not confirmed that Renman is doctor. Gina could have been doctor and Renman AC Follower. Or Renman and Raqio could both be Gnosia and Raqio's "plan" was to have everyone believe one of them is confirmed human. It's also of course possible, and likely, that he's doctor. But not confirmed yet.

Megadragon8982026-01-17 18:55

It’s a bit sad how even though Yuri got so close to the others he's the only one who will remember and next loop he'll be a stranger to them.

I don’t really know if Raqio or Jonas is the ac follower because knowing their unpredictable personality they could just say that to make the game more interesting.

Kukrushka is really mysterious, i wonder if the one inside her is Manan or someone else? Because SQ herself said that Manan was a born liar so she could be lying about being innocent.

bottled_fox2026-01-17 20:43

Let's not forget that SQ can be Manan in worldlines where the consciousness transfer succeeded. And if one is Manan, then the other must be not.

zool7142026-01-17 19:00

Man, this Follower is making everything a lot more complicated and I love it. But there’s like so much more variable and considerations now to every theory and suspicion

I do agree with Yuri too. It’s been too easy. All the roles have so far had the same results. It could be the Gnosia working with each other or the Follower causing chaos

And on previous loop, it would’ve been a safe assumption that Kukrushka was the Guardian Angel, but now there’s the consideration that she could be a Follower

Man, I’m honestly stumped right now lol

jardex222026-01-17 19:56

I'm going to go ahead and guess that Racio is the AC Follower, and will suggest freezing Jonas, Yuri, Remnan, and themself. From a group perspective that would take care of the two remaining gnosia, since they don't know about the AC Follower role. Only after the next warp would they realize that there's still a gnosia left and they eliminated any possibility of identifying them. The meetings would just devolve into chaos at that point, which is what the Follower would want.

AntiTalkative2026-01-17 20:15

Bruh, if this is Racio's plan then this is devious work.

Kill-bray2026-01-18 02:13

That would entail that Yuri is lying, since he just reported that Raqio is Gnosia.

jardex222026-01-18 03:05

True. I suppose maybe it could be Yuri trying to fight deception with deception, which could backfire.

Orochidude2026-01-18 03:42

My assumption is that, since the others don't know that AC Follower is a role that exists, it's a lot easier to just report Racio as a Gnosia than it is to come across as suspicious by bringing up a role no one else knows and hoping people don't think you're a liar.

RellenD2026-01-18 19:10

Reporting Racio as Gnosia when they aren't is a big problem. If they put him in cold sleep he's revealed as human by the doctor, Yuri is fucked.

Also if he's eliminated and there's no real doctor left, then they will think they have one fewer Gnosia remaining than really exists

BosuW2026-01-18 02:25

This would depend on if the AC Follow lies just because they're insane or if they lie specifically in benefit of the Gnosia. Which tbf, is what the name of the role implies, but on the other hand Yuriko said they're just crazy.

Serito2026-01-18 15:03

It's a cool idea but I don't think it's the direction they are going.

That'd make a 1v5 as opposed to a 3v7, unless it really leans into the AC being more of a jester than a Gnosia ally? But they are framing this as a Yuri big brain moment which will then probably flow into the Yuriko reveal. I suspect that Yuri is lying about Raqio (who is AC) to catch Jonas & Remnan in a lie. Then Kukrushka will verify as GA that Yuri isn't Gnosia because she saved him.

Jonas will verify Raqio as Gnosia, then next meeting Remnan will also be forced to say Raqio is Gnosia. Through logic it is confirmed Yuri is the real Engineer. Yuri will reveal they lied about Raqio to expose the other two ending the loop by voting them both out.

FarCritical2026-01-17 19:15

It's not exactly easy to brush that *one* Kukrushka incident under the rug but man, her little "Guardian Angel" gesture was so damn endearing.

Getting another instance of that innate lie detector ability is one thing but having it go off from a Gnosia on while what's basically a troll is present this round is such a headache (in a cool way)

YumiyaRakko2026-01-17 20:53

The thing is that aside from the timeline where Kukrushka convinced everyone to go to cold sleep, it is not like she is THAT dangerous. Like if people are alive and well she will probably just play the game like normal and she def has value in meetings considering she is a cute innocent looking girl who is mute so she is unlikely to be sussed too much for staying silent or voted out too early and Jonas is likely to side with her and Jonas himself has a leadership position. There are definitely benefits of siding with Kukrushka

Obviously this is all unless if she is Gnosia or AC follower. I would expect Kukrushka to fake Guardian Angel and if she did that is DIABOLICAL

BornfromDarkness2026-01-17 19:25

Obligatory: raging loop, suhoshin, 999 series, danganronpa, Sekimeiya spun glass if you guys want to play something similar and such (999 there is a voting process thus I adding it)

>.> (also yes I say this every episode lol)

N-P-C-C2026-01-17 20:55

Still appreciated - raging loop, danganronpa, and 999/zero escape should be seen to be believed. Still pulling for 999 to get an anime adaption one day, but just happy gnosia got one, and it has gone so well. This was really easy to mess up in terms of pace/story.

hellish_goat2026-01-17 23:12

I'd add in AI: The Somnium Files too. While not quite the same thing I did originally play Gnosia because I'd enjoyed the 999 series & AI:TSF so I think it fits. The 2nd game wasn't as good but I loved the first one.

raveno192026-01-17 19:29

This is a little confuse at the start when yuri woke up at a new timeline when yuriko said she will told him the truth at last ep. but then i remembered that she was a gnosia in last game.

So somehow she killed yuri at last game and move him to this game which have an AC follower.

Comet was Gnosia for sure, Yuri is real engineer, so seem to me Jonas is AC follower, if he is a Gnosia, it kinda make no sense to point out another Gnosia. Seem like he just said random things to make chaos.

BornfromDarkness2026-01-17 19:33

If we take the information from past episodes: otome first = sha-ming perhaps as isn’t that his quirk cause he feels sorry for her?

Comet god tier at finding lies but sucks at lying (which she says in her episode), even if shigemichi was human that would mean either comet is Gnosia or ac follower (does everyone know about the ac role? Thought so but would be odd yuriko knows such a role by name if it doesn’t exist properly…? Unless she’s the ac…?)

Either way she would have to go >.> would have to tell the doctor tho that even if she’s human she needs to go

Racio wasn’t making as much noise as usual thus he’s Gnosia as usually he’s targeted first by Gnosia or humans due to him not stfu’ing

Ps. My bet is the ac is chipie as the ac doesn’t have to claim a role…? oh though with the logic of only yuri knows the role imagine the reaction when 3 people claim engineer and only one Gnosia did it)

jardex222026-01-17 19:48

Finally glad to see a full game going, although I suspect that it won't be that easy.

From an outside perspective all the remaining threats can be narrowed down to four people. Racio, Remnan, Jonas, and Yuri. Two gnosia remaining among them. They could just propose freezing all four of them to completely eliminate the threat.

Only Yuri knows about the AC Follower, and the possibility that one Gnosia hasn't revealed themself.

tripleaamin2026-01-17 20:05

The AC follower makes things interesting because for the first time you now have to doubt the facts. As this show is built on certainties. You always assumed that if you had X saying Y is Gnosia, you only had to consider if X was a gnosia or human. But now you enter a 3rd possibility: what if X is lying and human? Now it throws it off.

* Yuriko, Otome, Shigemichi are human.
* Comet was a Gnosia.
* Yuri & Jonas claimed to be Engineers
* Raico & Renman claimed to be doctors.

I think since Comet went to Chipe like she went to Yuri it most likely implies that Chipe is human.

Suspects of Gnosia are

* Jonas
* Raico
* Renman
* SQ
* Sha-Ming
* Stella

We know that one of the 3 must be Gnosia. Jonas, Renman or Raico.

For Jonas, if he is a gnosia, then it could also imply Setsu is a gnosia. But if he is an AC follower, then that claim means nothing. Though in the past, Setsu would reveal to Yuri they are a Gnosia.

However, Jonas calling Comet a Gnosia would contradict Jonas being a Gnosia given what we know and what the history of Gnosia behavior has been. So it is to speculate that Jonas is the AC Follower.

With that said, there isn't too much information regarding Raico vs Renman to really get much on who is the Gnosia between them. Only thing maybe you would expect Raico to be the first one to declare he is the Doctor when it is the most optimal time to announce rather than waiting.

BosuW2026-01-18 02:22

Racio is immediately suspect because they didn't yap as much now that we know Gnosia Racio to be more cautious

AntiTalkative2026-01-17 20:16

So, um, I'm going to need episode 15, like, immediately. A whole week until the next ep hurts 😭😭😭

Also, if Raqio and Jonas are both gnosia then that would be an insane pair up. I feel like at least one of them is a gnosia, but if both then it explains the crazy work for this episode.

YumiyaRakko2026-01-17 20:43

Yuriko: I am confirmed human and Yuri needs to survive to get the answers from me

Also Yuriko: Literally makes Yuri's job harder by getting herself voted out :D

Man this woman is a troll

Nesp22026-01-17 23:04

I mean since she knows Yuri can loop what are the chances that she can still give him the answers in the next loop - she's a higher being or sth anyways.

Vpeyjilji572026-01-18 08:27

"Well, I froze myself so I don't know how the game actually played out... but with Jonas and Comet on the evil team, you probably won anyway. Here's the full lore dump:"

> * Yuriko next loop, probably.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-17 20:46

[15? Screw it, just roll a D15 at this point!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e9dcc9ab9282.png)

[](#panic)

[She knows! That's gonna be something to talk about!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/87588f734d90.png)

[And she's confirmed human! Better and better!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/87c66a58ce99.png)

[...Aaaaaaand they're gonna freeze her.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/dba87d4dc947.png)

[](#elsieqq)

[Now WHY would you want to know that...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/34e4aa32755b.png)

[](#bigthink)

[Ok let's freeze him whether or not he's Gnosia.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/369f1a16299a.png)

[Good lord, this makes things 10 times harder...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ec8559fc85ec.png)

Now the engineer reports only remove 1 out of the 2 bad possibilities!

And if somehow they get frozen, you still suspect other humans of lying!

[](#panic)

Figured Comet quite easily in this round; I first thought she was the AC, the way she was acting, [but when Yuri thought about it, I thought "Ok, she's Gnosia then"!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/5c54a09ecee2.png)

[The engineer who earlier in the episode asked the engineer to reveal themselves...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ccc761a3b4c0.png)

It's not impossible (both sides can use cunning/strategies), but still, it would make him so suspicious! Surprised no one pointed it out.

[I would definitely investigate the side with 8 votes;](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c649c65c9529.png)

Given it was more or less a debate, and IF we assume the 3 Gnosia voted the same way, well if they voted Comet, it means humans voted 8-2 for Shigemichi... I don't think anyone pushed an argument strong enough to make the vote so crushing against Shigemichi.

But if the 3 Gnosia voted Shigemichi, then humans are 5-5, fits better!

[Cute Berserker Guardian Angel Doll!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/61d32d4907be.png)

[](#delighted)

When she stood on her toes I thought she was going to kiss him, [but that's pretty fucking cute too!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d3318167f88b.png)

Seems the game won't finish in this episode! I guess it makes sense, with 15 participants!

And it's a tough one, with the Gnosia (or AC) copying human's stuff...

I had a theory at some point which I suppose is wrong because 1 thing wouldn't fit, but somehow I thought [Gnosia speculation]>!Yuri was SECRETLY Gnosia (hiding it from us the viewers)... But that 1 thing that doesn't fit is the engineer credentials thingy, which seems to be genuine. But other than that I thought that was the 'key' to this puzzle and why they were all saying the same thing (Gnosia/Human) and all that, I thought that was Yuri's strategy!!<

But yeah it doesn't seem to be possible.. I wonder if they'll do it at some point though!

[*Cute Comet pic for no particular reason*](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/133ff8c6e55a.png)

MayonakaMadaraka2026-01-17 21:03

I could’ve sworn the AC Follower role had already been acknowledged, or maybe it was the other one…

Looking forward to Yuriko’s exposition.

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 01:42

It was mentioned before but no one had the role until this loop.

AzumaManami2026-01-17 21:15

Ok i want to talk about TWO things that people seemingly are not talking about enough

1: Yuriko asked Yuri to survive but then got herself voted out so she is either fully confident that Yuri will truthfully reveal the last round result to her the next loop, or she is confident that she can see through Yuri if he lies about winning despite losing OR this mad woman has multi timeline OMNISCIENCE that she knows everything even if she does not witness it (which is beyond even Silver key) which is supported by the fact that she knows there is an AC follower just like that. Who even is Yuriko ? How is this woman this knowledgeable ?

2: Yuri straight up ASKED Kukrushka who she is and Kukrushka gave him a hug and said “yuri doesn’t need to worry since he will find out eventually” people are not realizing how crazy this line is. Kukrusha is NOT shocked that Yuri tries to learn about her identity, gets angry or tries to deceive him by acting all cute and unknowing. She gives him a hug and says he will learn eventually. But when is this “eventually” ? If she was ready to reveal it to Yuri she would have done it so she probably doesn’t mean after the next vote and there is no guarantee that both can survive even that very day let alone the entire game so her saying to Yuri that he will learn eventually HAS to be her acknowledging Yuri’s loops, she has to be saying that Yuri will learn it all in a future loop. Am i wrong ? Perhaps i am reading too much into it but this is the only way i can make sense out of that line and the implications are insane, Kukrushka might also be aware of the loops and perhaps even knows what happens in a future loop (or she doesn’t know about future loops but assumes Yuri will learn her secrets eventually as he continues looping)

duo99dusk2026-01-18 00:11

Also on top of that, in this timeline Jina doesn't know how to cook 🤯

TheWizardOfFoz2026-01-19 11:36

Jina is bad at cooking in all the timelines. She just enjoys it.

When Jina cooked for everyone earlier, Shigimichi tests it with his ray gun and finds out it’s like 30% salt which is what Yuri referenced in this episode.

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 01:45

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BosuW2026-01-18 02:20

You ain't crazy, I thought that exact same thing that Kukurushka has to be referring to the looping mechanic. It's really the only way that like makes sense.

crunchsmash2026-01-18 05:22

About #1, Yuriko could be the AC follower. So her telling Yuri about the role throws doubt into all of his future decisions.

A) If she isn't aware about Yuri looping, then the doubt just ruins his chances of survival in one loop.
B) If she knows he is looping, then she sows a seed of doubt that follows him in every loop afterward.

So she doesn't need to know about the looping for her to fulfill her role of AC follower by telling Yuri that the AC follower role exists. Yuri being a looper is just a bonus on top whether Yuriko knows it or not.

N-P-C-C2026-01-17 21:16

I find it funny that the kooky cult bitch would call anyone a "lunatic".

sleek_assassin2026-01-17 21:18

i have huge problem with this show ngl. Why doesn't real Engineer check fake Engineer? like why tf they always check someone who is the least sus among them? i have never seen real one checking fake (unless i am forgetting it). Yuri had a perfect chance to check jonas, but he didn't. like it will clear so many things for him. Overall tho good ep.

AzumaManami2026-01-17 21:31

Bro literally until this point WHAT EVEN IS THE POINT ? Without AC follower being a thing you know for SURE that the one who counter claims against you is the Gnosia, that is a fact EVERYONE KNOWS, why would anyone waste their check against a for sure Gnosia ? Please use your brain a little

Only with AC follower it has some merit but Yuri can’t do that because ONLY YURI knows there is an AC follower so even if he clears it to himself that Jonas is a gnosia or AC follower what will he say when asked who did he check ? If he says Jonas he will look like an idiot for checking someone who he has to know is a Gnosia and thus will look suspicious

sleek_assassin2026-01-17 21:36

I don’t think EVERYONE knows who the fake engineer is or who real is. They always wait for who to vote for. And real knows that fake is fake, so they can try to convince others that fake one is the gnosia. Sure AC follower shakes things up but Yuri checking on jonas would clear more of his doubts that if he is gnosia or AC followers.

MHyde52026-01-17 22:03

In everyone else's perspective, 1 of the Engineer reports the other Engineer is the fake is the obvious thing to do, they wouldn't be able to convince anyone of anything. Doing that is useless, the real Engineer would already know the other one is Gnosia.

Only when AC appears then sure they can check if the other one is a human who lies but it only confirms things to themselves, Yuri still wouldn't be able to convince anyone, especially when others don't know about AC. Comet and Shigemichi's thing muddle Yuri's deductions regarding AC (it could be Comet or Shigemichi) so Yuri doesn't know who to check understandably, so Yuri gotta make sure Kukrushka wouldn't massacre everyone. Next day, Yuri checks Comet to see who lied between Comet and Shigemichi. It is reasonable.

AzumaManami2026-01-17 22:57

My bro do you even think this through before writing the comment ? No one knows if the true engineer is the true engineer or not, saying the fake engineer is found out as gnosia by a check means NOTHING since you can do the exact same as the fake engineer.

The claim would lack any definite guarantee that would make the crew vote the fake engineer, it is already CERTAIN that only one person is the true engineer so without AC follower if one person is the engineer it is a FACT that the other has to be a Gnosia thus investigating them is a total waste of a round, it brings no info, by claiming you are the true engineer you are already basically declaring the competition as Gnosia

Birbs_Choco2026-01-17 21:24

Hmmm... I think Jonas is AC follower, Racio the second gnosia but dont know who is the third.

Jonas at the beggining asked who is Dr and Engineer, didnt ask for Guardian Angel as if he knew, had he been a Gnosia and knowing that kuku was angel prob would have attacked her but he did not.

Also it wouldnt make sense for team gnosia to attack yuri to expose Jonas being the gnosia thus losing one of their team, as Yuri dying would mean he was a human saying the truth that he was a engineer (especially since noone else seems to know there is an AC on board)

However if Yuri died that night the crew would see ah Jonas is lying and froze him and if hes AC would benefit the gnosia instead of losing one teammate they would ve gotten rid of 2 humans.

AzumaManami2026-01-17 21:28

They usually do not ask for Guardian angel since there is LITERALLY no merit for learning who it is unless the GA themselves wants to bring it up for an argument.

Like Doctor and Engineer is also not logical to claim first round but they at least can potentially be protected by GA or at leash fish out a gnosia or for gnosia perspective the true engineer. Claiming GA first round is a death sentence so they almost never ask it

RellenD2026-01-18 19:20

The benefit to claiming engineer or doctor in the first round is that you can't know that the engineer wasn't killed or slept in the first round otherwise.

Usually, that's resolved by competing claims, but with an AC follower, both engineers could fake claim round 2.

Joji10002026-01-17 22:02

AC Follower has to be my favorite role in this, a true chaotic faction that completely screws with logical deduction. Though, I can't imagine AC Follower being a playable role in the game since it doesn't seem to have a win condition so I doubt Yuri will get the role at any point

Greenforthou2026-01-17 22:15

Don’t doubt that Yuri will never be it, but the role is in fact in the game

Joji10002026-01-17 22:59

No doubts that the role is in the game, just wondering if it's playable (and if it is, what's the win condition?)

Lizuka2026-01-17 23:43

You can play as it and the win condition is surviving until the Gnosia win.

EmergencyJust61392026-01-18 00:04

It’s really hard too, because you need to avoid being cold-sleeped AND getting eliminated by Gnosia.

Cyouni2026-01-18 00:03

You're Gnosia-aligned but have no information or protection. It's like being Gnosia, but harder.

duo99dusk2026-01-18 00:24

It's like when poor people are in favour of billionaires. All the chaos and zero protection.

AnzoEloux2026-01-17 22:04

This episode was uniquely stressful, the way everyone was eyeing each other and the expressions were on point

rdeincognito2026-01-17 22:27

I've got questions, I don't know if the show had clarified it:
+ Does everyone knows there is a human liar or only soes Yuri know?
+ Do the Gnosia know there is a human liar and are in cahoots with him?
+ Do the human liar has any true motivation (IE: that the Gnosia win) or they solely want to sow chaos and don't care about the end result?

Several possibilities:
- Yuriko was the liar and sowed chaos making Yuri doubt about every logical conclusion.
- Chippie is the liar, that is why he exposed Comet knowing she has no proof therefore, chaos.
- Sha-ming, Racio or Jonas are the liar, Yuri accusing Racio of Gnosia and being confident that he wins may be some sort of distracting maneuver.

I don't think the liar woukd have kept quiet until now, so that leaves out most of the rest of characters

liscup342026-01-17 22:43

- It seems only Yuri knows for now.

- The Gnosia doesn't know there is a human traitor. (That said, if there are 2 Engineers and none of the Gnosia is lying, the Gnosia would know and they wouldn't mind if there is a liar among humans). But if the humans side knows about it publicly or if the human traitor deduces and reveals themselves to Gnosia privately then Gnosia side would know.

- Yuriko does explain they are Anti-Cosmic lunatic (she calls them Follower so it is like a religion or belief) so they just hate everything. Though they would be against humans because Gnosia eliminates things.

duo99dusk2026-01-18 00:27

But probably if it was Chippie, he wouldn't throw a Gnosia (Comet) under the bus so early

rdeincognito2026-01-18 00:28

If they look for humans losing, not, unless he thought she isn't a gnosia and miss stepped

pseudometapseudo2026-01-17 22:49

The current debate aside, there have been some key revelations for the overall story.

Yuriko is apparently aware of the loops, and even carries knowledge from one loop to the next as seen at the start of the episode.

Her "challenge" that Yuri should survive the current loop goes even further. She must be somehow able to tell whether Yuri survives the loop even though she herself is not there to witness it. That she basically volunteered to go into cold sleep felt kinda suspicious to begin with.

pseudometapseudo2026-01-17 22:59

Tinfoil hat theory: There is no AC follower. Yuriko only said that to throw Yuri off.

Like, the role itself is interesting and makes sense, but only Yuriko is aware of it? How is that? And after she told Yuri, she basically cold-sleeped herself, so there is nobody there to back up Yuri if they should claim that there is an AC follower? Seems fishy.

Muffin-zetta2026-01-18 00:20

Or yuriko is the ac follower she stirred the shit up real good and peaced out.

Kill-bray2026-01-18 05:53

Well that goes against the rules of the game, one cannot have more than one role and Yuriko was confirmed to be one of the 2 on guard duty. The anime has changed a few things but I doubt they decided to ignore this rule.

NforNeihoum2026-01-17 23:22

I think everyone here is overlooking a very possible scenario; Since Raqio is a gnosia, It would make sense for him to cook a plan where he and Jonas sacrifice Comet (who we have learned is a big liability) in order to throw everyone off

Alter_Kyouma2026-01-18 04:12

Agreed except in this case I don't think Jonas is a Gnosia. Racio probably noticed that two humans claimed the same role of engineer and figured that one of them was helping the Gnosia for whatever reason. Racio then steps forward as doctor, sacrifices Comet to secure their position and keeps the third Gnosia hidden among the rest. At least that's what I think is happening

Narvalis2026-01-17 23:50

I had a strong feeling that Racio was a Gnosia because of Comet, her reaction when Racio came forward as a doctor was like she was complicit in a lie which we know she's bad at. Honestly it was good framing having Comet just at the side as it was focused on Racio showing her look down with a pained expression.

duo99dusk2026-01-18 00:04

So exciting! This episode had me guessing at every turn 🗣️

Puzzleheaded_Play8252026-01-18 00:16

It’s been so long since actual game episode that I had hard time trying to figure out who the gnosia? 😅

Though the ac add such an interesting layer and basically cause chaos for the engineer! Cause it basically cuts the usefulness in half

Also yuri and kukrushka engineer and guardian angel? Hopefully this doesn’t goes wrong again?

I had feeling something was up with raico like he was trying to egg people on more than usual

But still don’t know if he gnosia or ac cause if he ac and the doctor reports yuri in trouble

But with the implication less likely he gnosia

Also I think it’s funny that everyone bowed there head to shigemichi mid meeting 😅

Ahh this new role fries my brain

Next week week kukrushka episode since seem she knows yuri knows something about her

Cyouni2026-01-18 00:22

I'm trying to run the numbers on if it was possible that Gina/Shigemichi was the Doctor. The problem is that everything has been 4-way confirmed by Yuri, who we have confirmation that is the real Engineer.

So we have Yuri/Jonas saying Comet was Gnosia, as well as Remnan/Raqio. So that's basically guaranteed. If Gina was Doctor, both Shigemichi and Comet could be Gnosia, but that's not likely, I think - that would mean Shigemichi/Jonas/Raqio are Gnosia, with Remnan as AC Follower. I'm still not quite sure about Kukrushka's reliability, but she's human, at least - could still be AC Follower or just being Kukrushka.

Something still just feels too easy on this run, but everything is so cross-confirmed that it's hard to dispute.

Iglten2026-01-18 01:49

Actually, assuming Kukrushka's point of view, wouldn't it be stupid for her to reveal her exact role (guardian angel) to Yuuri when Yuuri is not a confirmed engineer?
If Yuuri happens to be Gnosia, revealing guardian angel role is literally asking for trouble.

Cyouni2026-01-18 04:33

Oh, I'm just assuming that she's probably lying. The problem is I have no idea if she's lying because AC Follower, or because she's Kukrushka.

Contra03072026-01-18 15:53

You're right that it's not a great play but some characters are not very logical about their choices (just like real life werewolf) and Kukrushka in particular tends to make her choices based on how she feels about a person rather than what is logically the best course of action. All that to say, this is very in character for her but not for a character like Raqio

Platipi972026-01-18 00:38

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Iglten2026-01-18 01:32

In that case, since Comet was definitely Gnosia (confirmed by Yuuri who we know is the real engineer), it only leaves Jonas, Racio and Remnan as enemies. Which I guess can a problem for Yuuri since Racio will get frozen anyway (that's just what Racio does) and everyone's gonna believe anything Remnan says afterwards.

Alternatively, anyone could be the last remaining Gnosia or the AC follower.
It would be fun if Kukrushka is faking her role - that would make Remnan the real doctor (and the real guardian angel could be Chipie or SQ).

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 01:39

2 gnosia never claim the same role, but it's true that both Doctors could be fake.

Whole-Extension35612026-01-18 02:02

With Comet confirmed as Gnosia, Yuri finding Raqio as Gnosia and Jonas probably being the AC Follower, Yuri will be put in an awkward position. The rest of the crew would think the last Gnosia is Jonas but if they freeze him and the light remains red they could turn against Yuri, specially since they don't seem to know there's an AC Follower on board.

There's also the chance that either Shigemichi or Gina were the real Doctor and that Remnan is the AC Follower fake claiming (though this seems unlikely based on his personality).

My last theory is that Yuri became crazy for this loop and sees himself as the Engineer when he actually is the AC Follower. This could explain why Yuriko decided to go to sleep so eagerly on day 1. The problem I have with this theory is that it would make Jonas the real engineer and no Gnosia would have claimed to be the engineer which is atypical.

Jacob-C2026-01-18 02:35

Now we have AC, or as Among Us players know them, the third impostor. There is always that garbage player in the friend group who can't help but throw the game.

Skithana2026-01-18 03:08

Hey you can't just chain-cliffhang like that, that's illegal!

Finally they introduce a "madman" role, of course it's also in the biggest most complex game yet...that is, if Yuriko wasn't lying to throw Yuri off.

If she wasn't, i have two theories right now, either Jonas is the madman or Yuriko herself was.

Jonas, well it's pretty obvious the way he's been acting would make him suspicious, the problem is that he seems *a tad* too obvious of a madman candidate, I feel it could be a red herring.

I feel it could be Yuriko mainly because that simple act of telling Yuri about AC followers would probably be the thing that could cause the most discord during meetings, since she seems to be aware that Yuri can loop and has in turn, the most knowledge out of everyone else left on the ship, he knows how to move the meetings at this point, so throwing him off means throwing the whole thing off, I was specially suspicious since she said she wanted to see if Yuri "**could see though this trap** and survive", which is why I also think she could be lying to begin with and there's no madman at all.

However she *was* on Guard Duty, and I don't know if that prevents her from being a madman candidate.

But man I can't believe I didn't realize Racio was Gnosia sooner, been a while so I completely forgot the no. 1 rule of this series: "If Racio survives the first round, he's probably Gnosia."

I only realized when he claimed to be the Doctor as well and I just thought "oh yeah he's still alive...yep he's the Gnosia."

I am curious about how it'll turn out next week, Yuri seemed pretty confident about having "won" against Racio, but Racio had that ominous smile at the end too...

Southern-Ebb-82292026-01-18 04:19

So can Yuriko loop or is she just aware of the information as a higher entity or something? Anyhow this game is the hardest yet since the AC Follower just makes all deductions more complicated. Anyhow can't wait to see how things progress next ep.

Lambdadelta922026-01-18 05:14

As much i like the character interaction episodes, i miss the intense wolf game battle in the first 9 episodes and this episode delivered. Everyone tried hard to win so everyone can be equally dangerous and with the introduction of AC follower, it's really hard to pinpoint the Gnosia. This ep made me uncomfortable and I love it. I wonder when we will get the final role of the game (my favorite role), that will be crazy.

bendamin102026-01-18 06:01

As someone that plays AC follower in werewolf games, yuriko is 100% right about me 😭

Dixenz2026-01-18 12:22

Day 2

* Yuri and Jonas claims to be Engineer. We do know that Jonas is lying.
* Either Comet or Shigemichi (or both) are lying.

If both of the liars here are Gnosia, the 3rd Gnosia should lay low and avoid getting attention.

Day 3

* Remnan and Raqio claims to be Doctor, either one of them or both is lying. Both Reports Shigemichi as Human.
* Jonas and Yuri reports Comet as Gnosia.

All reports basically said Comet is lying. And basically at least 3 liars have come out. Comet, one of the Engineer (which is Jonas) and one of the Doctors (either Remnan or Raqio).

If Jonas is Gnosia, it's a very bad move for the Gnosia team if the last Gnosia is fake claiming Doctor this day and both Gnosia throwing Comet under the bus. IMO Jonas is the AC Follower, that's why a Gnosia still fake claiming Doctor on Day 3, since 1 other Gnosia still hiding among the remaining crew member (Setsu, SQ, Stella, Chipie, Sha-Ming)

Mysteries672026-01-18 13:15

I guess since we already had her big moment a few episodes ago we're not gonna have anymore screen time with Reze

I mean Gina for now.

Shizzi2026-01-18 16:29

Okay really curious how this is gonna go this new follower guy is interesting to throw in and Racio has been Yuris achiles heel this whole time in other loops so this next ep cant come soon enough.

ArcanistLupus2026-01-19 06:36

If it wasn't for the AC, this game would be over right here. All Gnosia are accounted for (Yuri/Jonas, Racio/Remnan, Comet). That means there's nobody left to counter-claim Angel. An successful Angel protect is as good as an Engineer claim, since the Gnosia always target and never choose themselves. Kukrushka could claim Angel, verify Yuri, and they'd clean up Racio and Jonas.

But of course, if either Jonas or Racio is the AC, then there's a Gnosia free to counter-claim Angel and the whole thing devolves into he-said/she-said like it did that time Yuri was Angel.