Kaya-chan wa Kowakunai • Kaya-chan isn't Scary - Episode 2 discussion

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*[Holy crap Chie.](https://i.imgur.com/UlcJMfh.jpeg)*

Kaya's getting all the allies now. But in the occult world, who can you actually trust?

The after credits mini lesson on not to readily dismiss children's claims is a good knowledge reminder for parents. Maybe the reason why "Kaya Chan Isn't Scary" airs in the afternoon / early evening of Sundays is so that parents and children can watch it together.

The second half of this episode was intense too. All of us know Kaya is powerful at eliminating evil spirits, yokai, etc, but she is still a child and could be easily fooled by imposters taking on the appearance of her parents. (Perhaps this segment wants to teach children not to trust anyone who claims they are relatives or close friends of their parents?)

On a lighter note, I want to believe Mobuo Osamu is a good guy, albeit weird. And when Kaya can't deal with the physical, Chie sensei can pull off some perfectly executed body throw / slam!

Really interesting and good episode with a lot of classic "stranger danger" tropes, and misdirections.

That first bit with the "peeping tom", turned out to be a a bit more somber than expected. I guess some poor person died while staring out their window, and was mistaken as a ghost.
At least now the "ghost" can be properly laid to rest.

Then the next bit with the "child abductor", turned out to be a little bit of a "good intention, bad execution" on Mr. Mobu's part. Creepily following Kaya-chan around with the hopes of repaying her.

I was thinking this might be more of an episodic show, with a ghost of the week type.
But maybe with the introduction of Mr. Mobu, and Kaya's vision of her mother from the "spirited away" ghost, there might be more of a deeper underlying plot.
Interested to see where they go from here now.

so remember: if your kid says they saw a ghost in your house, don't worry. It's probably just a dead body!

So Kaya could get fooled by the '*Spirited Away*' illusion as well? Seemed like her supernatural senses weren't tingling 100% of the time.

Felt bad for Osamu. He had nothing but the best intentions and yet got mistook for a child predator. The spirit repellant turned out to bite him in the arse. Having said that, we as the audience got fooled as well. The show went through great lengths to paint him as a red herring.

This is such a good new anime for the season. The episodic nature makes it fun to watch weekly.

The fact that some ghosts can shape shift into someone you trust makes it even more challenging for Kaya. I wonder what monster we will get to see next week. Also, what does Osamu means by he got help from Kaya before this?

Oh damn. That first part of the episode caught me off guard. [I thought the guy who's looking at them](https://i.imgur.com/6o22W2r.png) from the window is someone possessed. I did not expect that the dude was actually just a corpse of someone who committed suicide. I suppose [the spirit having a noose on its neck should've been a clue.](https://i.imgur.com/YPFXnWN.png)

i love how the moment Kaya realized that it's not her father, she be like: *"screw the buzzer, i'm just gonna beat the shit out of this ghost!"*

Wow that first part was wild. Poor Chei-sensei having to deal with that.

I'm curious as to what the 'spirited away' ghost was doing, as it sounded like the kids were returning.

It must of been a powerful ghost to manage to fool Kaya twice. First as her dad untill she saw her real dad then the illusion seemed to break, but before she could vanquish it it transformed into her mother and it wasn't until Mob broke the illusion again that Kaya could see the ghost again

I did suspect that big guy was actually trying to help, despite the show hinting otherwise. Obviously he has the ability to see ghosts too, so maybe he is a psychic too just really weak maybe.

We got to see what Kaya's mum looks like.

I'm curious as to what Kaya and Mobs first interaction was and why her referred to her being so tiny. Was that just him over-exaggerate her smallness as a baby.
I also have a feeling this interaction might be linked to her mother's current issue

So even Kaya can get fooled by shape shifting ghosts. Oji-san was just trying to help. Chie-sensei with a shoulder throw..SUGOI !
Oji-san turned out to be a good guy..Saw that coming but he still looks suspicious lol

Distorted music is a pretty common horror trope, in any case I really do like the distorted versions of the music in this show when ghosts show up!

These ghosts messed around with the wrong kid. Like they tryna pretend to be her mom and dad? Just asking for death with that bullshit lol.

Uncle Mob literally looks like a creeper. Like if you were to look up “creepy anime lolicon pervert” big dawg’s picture would pop up haha. I’m still not entirely convinced he’s a friendly…

Kaya-chan is powerful, but her family is her biggest weakness. But at least it seems like she's gathering more and more adults who can help her.

Kaya isn't the only girl whose seeing strange things...like Saku-chan (Misaki Kuno!) who sees this strange face in a window on the way to school. It's nice for Kaya to have another kid who can relate to seeing scary things and acts so confident and bold about them!

Of course when face-to-face with a crazy spirit yelling "DON'T LOOK AT ME" Kaya easily dispatches it...except the scary face in the window is still there, staring down at people. Why would there be a perpetual face behind a window if it's not a spirit? Maybe because it's a dead body hanging inside a house...and maybe the source of that very spirit Kaya defeated.

The kindergarten teachers need to be on the lookout for strange people, especially if children are actually getting "spirited way," though at least Kaya can enjoy playing with Yuzu! I'm sure nothing bad will happen.

What better way to get children alone and steal them away than by appearing as their parent, the one they would most trust and listen to? If not for Kaya seeing through it, Yuzu might very well have been spirited away without knowing any better that that thing wasn't her mother. And luckily Chie was there to judo throw the suspicious fat guy who was around both girls!

Kaya gets a stranger danger alarm to keep her safe, but the thing most likely to get her off her guard...is her dad. She might not have even noticed it wasn't really her dad if she didn't see the real version with Chie. And even then, it transforms into her mother (Mamiko Noto!), her OTHER biggest weakness, and nearly had her if not for the "suspicious man" AKA Osamu Mob who uses his exorcism spray to weaken it.

Is Mob a weirdo who you ordinarily would not around children? Yes. Is he a legit Occult Journalist who is maybe a little too obsessed with the occult to the point of worshipping Kaya? It seems like it. Apparently Kaya saved him when she was just a baby? Though he's legit enough to have a business card.

They’re slowly introducing people with spiritual awareness. They might be the key to helping Kaya defeat the ghost in their home and free her mother. That Spirited Away ghost is really powerful when it comes to disguise because Kaya herself couldn’t detect it immediately and it’s even worse if she’s the target. Really interesting episode and I can’t wait for more.

That first story took a darker turn that I didn’t expect, but at least the kids weren’t made aware of the whole situation.

It’s also interesting that there *are* youkai Kaya can’t see, which further expands the world in a way. In addition to not being able to defeat the one possessing her mother I mean. Hopefully meeting more people who know of the occult like Mob will help her become stronger.

That’s of course assuming his generic creeper character design is just that, a design. Which I’m still very apprehensive about.

Osamu's silhouette made me think Sakamoto turned to the dark side at first.

Kaya's style of persuading her fellow kindergarteners with kindergartner speak continues to be endearing. "She's your mommy, but you can't. Just because."

[Me every time I fly a budget airline.](https://imgur.com/a/pkekwMJ)

It seems the old age rule, don't talk to strangers doesn't apply here, given that ghosts can mimic the people close to you to deceive you.

It seems we have at least a team for now, Kaya, Sensei, and that Occult journalist. He may be drawn as an untrusty one, but I think he is legit, and will be able to help Kana's issue with her mother.

[Kaya is a good smart girl.](https://i.imgur.com/tmqXTBA.png)

I feel real bad for the person in the window. Did not expect the show to go there.

That first part of the episode was pretty dark considering all of the implications.

Kaya may be strong but she's still a kid, the mother trick was particularly effective considering the yet to be explained mother situation she has.

Good work with those throws Chie-sensei. I had to laugh at the big guy being named Mob.

It's nice thats Kaya had friends in the class, like the redhead and the flower crown girl. They're not just ostracizing her for being too weird.

Its interesting to see a series with these kindergarteners actually deal with the whole "stranger danger" issue. Of course, there are ghosts involved. Uncle Mob is creepy and suspicious, but apparently not a bad guy... we shall see. And there was that other voice speaking through him in the forest. So he might also be possessed by something.

Best parts were the small moments of Kaya making connection with her friends. Even if they accidentally ended up discovering a corpse in the first segment.

Good episode.

The 1st part is actually kinda wild, i heard stories about people lived alone and died with no one knew. That kinda creepy.

2nd part is good, we are gradually set up some allies for Kaya to deal with bigger threat someday.

Christ the first part with the person that hung himself felt chilling once you realize what really happened


The second part was pretty fun with mr mob getting mistaken for a pedophile,although he isn't,just someone who revers kaya as a goddess

That’s a very good message in the post-credit. People should really try to take what others say seriously, even though they are just kids. It’s a healthy way for their growth instead of dismissing them and telling them to shut up or ignoring it, then having them turn out to be bad adults later on.

And geez, too bad this is a 12-episode series. It would be good if it were a 24/25-episode series like Dark Gathering. Still, looking forward to the next episode!

If the spirited away ghost was a futakuchi-onna, then why/how were the kids safely returned?

Im pretty sure Uncle Mob is a ghost.

What do ghosts even gain from taking kids? Energy? Perhaps they don’t keep them to avoid gaining attention?

Just like episode 1 with the implications of the books all going to a bookstore for children… first part was pretty tame considering the end result was just a “oh it was totally a ghost”

I’m more worried on why it took a child to realize it though when shouldn’t the adults look around to make sure no fuckery is happening? Multiple days.

If dude knows kaya then would it make sense he doesn’t know her name? My guess is either the ghost itself said the Kaya but as a red herring or the dude to a degree is possessed or something which allows him to view the supernatural… if it’s the later I’m going to chalk it up to Kaya pacified the ghost…

…did bro just say he is using a spray bottle with deodorant mixed with it?

He seems harmless considering he 1. Didn’t run away. 2. Kept watch over the woods (I’m chalking it up to he’s doing his job considering the spirited well thing became publicly known). 3. Bro came back despite being tossed… bro had zero fear of the teacher.

Edit: obligatory watch the scene after the ending song, children or even people don’t say X/Y randomly, there’s always a reason… who the hell wouldn’t be paranoid if your kid just randomly told you zero context “oh it’s that guy again watching us for three days now”

Well, we know what her mom is SUPPOSED to look like. But I still wonder what's going on with her. I feel like she's a ghost, but maybe not. The OP shows a grandma type character with purple-ish hair walking alongside an adult lady with purple hair. I wonder if they're relatives and their introduction will give us some insight on what is going on.

When I saw him in the OP, I figured Mob would be the "misunderstood creepy old guy" type.

So even Kaya can be fooled by the ghosts' illusions, huh?

I guess Mob will be like the pokedex for the audience, telling us info about the ghost of the week.

It took me a hot second to realize the woman had committed suicide and that's why there was a matching ghost.

Ngl the part with the child abductions was freaky. Somehow it feels more real when the ghosts are able to be seen by normal people. It seems the even Kaya isn't immune to the illusions. Still Chie-sensei to the rescue! Even when Kaya is the strongest psychic in the world, there's still a need for responsible adults to be responsible adults.

(The scenes where the teachers talk about keeping the children safe was real.)

And Mob Ojii-san is still super sus. In some ways, I'm not sure whether him or the actual ghost is freakier. Well, the seemingly more probably route is that he's actually kosher but nobody trusts him as a running gag. Then again, the "it's so obvious that the fact that he's exactly what he seems is the twist" is also an option.

Oh god, I didn’t even consider the idea that it was an actual corpse. Somehow that’s so much worse than it being a ghost. Well, at least Kaya made a friend that believes her.

That thing’s a pretty devious trap. Unfortunately seems to have gotten a few kids before being vanquished.

Okay, I’m sure this is a subversion of expectations but man, it would do you a world of good to stop looking like the poster child for “I have a government-mandated ban from every kindergarten in the country.”

Chie-sensei can kick some serious butt, huh?

Is that ghost thing following them the fat guy that's been in the OP the whole time, something is just screaming 'that's the fat guy'

Oh lmao I thought it was just an old woman glaring out the woman I was so confused until they showed the flies around the window

Ok yea he's in the eyecatch and they're talking about a suspicious man it's totally him

Oh huh is the fat man also part of the pretends-to-be-your-mom-ghost?? Or is that just a weird fakeout thing where they're just having the ghost talk at the same time as showing the shot of the man walking away

My assumption before, and I guess still is, is that he's another 'psychic' like Kaya considering he was throwing around purifying salt in the eyecatch.

Ok there he is.

Good post credits. Children are terrible liars. If they say shit, they probably believe its true. Think about whether it might be important to figure out what the fuck they think they're talking about.

Great episode overall. That said, the school's call not to change their activity schedule despite a warning about a creepy middle- aged guy was **weird**, to say the least.

"Guys, we've received a report that there's a middle aged man walking up to and talking to kids. And that kids are randomly disappearing. Anyways, have fun at the park and tell the kids not to go off with strangers!'

Also, why was the warning coming from a "Disaster Management Buro" and not the police?

Since Kaya seems to believe the ghost when it turned into her mom, I'm assuming that her mom is alive but possibly possessed and it's appearing as some sort of chronic illness that makes her unable to leave her room? It'll make sense with the whole "something not even Kaya can beat" setup too, that it's possible to defeat and recover her mom from but she can't do it just yet.

Also geez I did not expect for the anime to be hitting us with the hanged man in episode two, I expected the show to be on the darker side but that went dark real quick

So you know how American cartoons will often try to have jokes for kids and adults? (and the adult jokes are often "the punchline is sex" cringe but that's besides the point)

I think this show is trying to do something similar with horror. It's a Sunday prime-time show, kids will understand the scary faces (like, seriously, if they're young enough this is gonna be *too* scary) while the situations are aimed *exactly* at things that scare grown-ups.

Like, holy cow, after an episode and a half when we're expecting Kaya to be over-powered and just punch any *kaii* that shows up*... nope,* she's not invincible. That might come up later.

And I don't even know quite what to make of Mobu Osamu yet...

Looking toward a dark window and seeing a figure standing there is a fear I've had since childhood and I'll probably never be completely rid of it. The reveal in this episode, that it was actually someone who commited suicide, is even more haunting.

On another note, MOB?! What happened to the body improvement??

[That was clever thinking from Kaya;](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3208422aeaf5.png)

I mean it's still a hard sell, but instead of saying the truth "She's NOT your mommy!" (which would've been dismissed because obviously 'it's my mommy!'), she tried another angle!

But she has her moments of 'normal child' as well, given she fell for the same trap minutes later! Hopefully that lesson will stick and she'll pay more attention to people coming to pick her up in the future!

Also, talked about it in another comment, but that was such a good lesson at the end...

Even if the kid's saying some nonsense, doesn't mean there's nothing; If the kid tells you he saw a ghost or a ninja or pirate, well he probably didn't, BUT perhaps "The ghost" is some guy in a white robe, perhaps "The ninja" is a burglar, perhaps "The pirate" is a crazy person running around with a sword...

Just because you know they didn't see these things, doesn't mean they saw *nothing!*

Bro, this episode was actually kinda scary ngl. I think because last episode no matter the problem Kaya was able to deal with it easily. This episode even she was fooled, which made me extremely uneasy

Well that was fucked up. The post episode moral was good. Don't just dismiss children bc their concern seems silly bc it's rooted in SOMETHING. The second half was good too. Not all strangers are bad, & not all "friendly" faces are good.

Kaya-chan is like a blend of Anya and Mao Mao. My heart can't take the cuteness.

Sakuya's eyebrows ♥️
I love the eye pull, tongue up ghost reference.
That Miru naaaaa ghost was hilariously scary.
There's some piano and sounds in this show that super sounded like Parasite Eve. When the teachers were talking about the man sighting. Yuzu is super cute!
The run away animation on Chie Sensei was the most hilarious low budget animation cycle omg hahaha.

I want to say Chie Sensei looks like a kemono.

New episode dropped and new translated chapter dropped. Both being very heavy in its storylines.

This show is hella underrated. That was some GOOD horror that is so rare in anime.

When Chei-sensei tossed Mob obscured by shadow, I was like cool she just beat up Japanese Peter Griffin

So hes an occult journalist? What has me concerned is what kind of story he needs and how desperate is he to get it? What if he is willing to put her in real danger for the sake of a scoop?


Keats, he is not.

This show is gonna be a gem. Just like Dark Gathering and Mieruko-chan, and I loved both.

Man, the Body Improvement Club would be so disappointed to see how Mob let himself go.

That was a good message about figuring what's wrong when kids say they see ghosts instead of outright dismissing their worries.

WTF I thought that first 'ghost' was just gonna be a cardboard standee for the comedy, not an actual person that unalived themselves in their room 😭

havnt watched the anime yet, is the adaptation good?