Majutsushi Kunon wa Mieteiru • Kunon the Sorcerer Can See

Majutsushi Kunon wa Mieteiru • Kunon the Sorcerer Can See - Episode 4 discussion

*Majutsushi Kunon wa Mieteiru*, episode 4

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szalhi2026-01-18 15:24

[*My People Need me.*](https://i.imgur.com/IwWyLPm.jpeg)

[They are not.](https://i.imgur.com/eCljmLd.jpeg)

It seems Kunon found his people.

15000yuki2026-01-19 05:34

>[*My People Need me.*](https://i.imgur.com/IwWyLPm.jpeg)

This made me laughing so hard. I'm sure it feels unsettling seeing *yourself* ascend to heaven.

PeaceAlien2026-01-18 15:29

Kunon can make full bodies and animals out of water, but still can't make an eyeball? Idk about that.

ElHeim2026-01-18 15:59

He could make an eyeball if he wanted, but what he wants is being able to **see** using it. As he said, not only his puppets are imperfect, they're just water, at the end of the day.

DavidJKay2026-01-19 01:51

He can make puppets/dolls that he can pull strings to make do a dance. But he wants to make something that doesn't just look like an eye but allows him to see like a normal person.

darthvall2026-01-19 05:17

I'm still unclear on how limiting is his current vision with magic.

It doesn't seem he's having any trouble at all, so I wonder if he still needs an eyeball.

EffectiveImportant512026-01-19 15:11

I think of it as he senses aura, and can using a bit of to borrow an idea from other animes magic sense. So it seems he is using that but it is not clear, and has limited range and focus. Also, it probably is more like with the world the absence of magic is how is delineate differences.

But as people have pointed out he cannot appreciate the subtleties like architectural shape. He probably cannot tell a facial difference just size and color difference.

darthvall2026-01-19 16:14

The thing about facial difference, he could recreate 1-1 replica of the maid with the correct color and shape as well.

EffectiveImportant512026-01-19 16:23

Yeah that made me laugh. I suspended the disbelief there. I was like there is no way he is able to accurately do this. Even if we allow that through touch he can get how the maid looks. The accuracy of her face made no sense.

DavidJKay2026-01-19 21:29

He couldn't tell it was evening/getting dark, he is currently probably similar to someone nearly legally blind for normal vision but supplemented with magical equivalent of magnifying glasses and other spectrum cameras (able to see magic, etc)... its like difference between 50 year old color TV and modern super high res display

DavidJKay2026-01-19 21:31

You could surf internet on an 40 year old color TV hooked up to a TV box with adapter but it would be much harder than modern "retina" display... eg difference between 320x200 resolution and 2560x1440. You have to do lots of zooming in and panning around to get details if poor resolution

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-18 15:29

Raysha and Londimonde and the other sorcerers are just as goofy as Kunon. Little bro’s gonna fit right in with those goobers lol. Maybe next time he can break his current record of getting scolded 3 times in a day.

SA0902026-01-18 15:36

Definitely thought that this was a much better episode than the first 3, and for now, I’d like to see what he does moving forward alongside the other magicians. The expansion of the world is also appreciated, with how the crests work and such.

That being said, I can’t help but feel that his end goal is sadly feeling pointless.

The head magician literally held up his own hand to show his crest level instead of saying it which Kunon could “see” just fine, while also being at a level where he can comfortably perceive shapes or colours and accurately implement them through his magic (case in point, the mentioned different cats he can conjure). The only thing he failed to see technically was the sunset sky, which I can assume based on his ingenuity will be fixed soon enough.

I hoped for a lot more struggle in this area honestly, but I’m unsure him getting even more proper education will be able to showcase it as effectively.

Esret072026-01-18 17:16

iirc he can see, but with limited range, and what he can see get clearer the closer he is.

SA0902026-01-18 17:23

I recall them saying something along those lines earlier, but it sadly doesn’t feel as restrictive anymore.

Western-Internal-7512026-01-18 21:00

Well the anime is called “Kunon can see” not “Kunon can’t see” after all

SA0902026-01-19 03:55

Of course, but I assumed *eventually*. If it’s going to be that easy, maybe having it as a film would be more appropriate. But I guess seeing a much bigger struggle is just a needed me thing.

BoxSweater2026-01-18 17:53

That's how it started, but I think it's very strongly implied that he's gotten considerably stronger. Like it seems his vision is probably better than an average person at this point.

I'm assuming he wants eyes because even if he can "see" the world his vision doesn't function the same way it does for other people, so maybe things like art and architecture just don't have any significance for him right now, and he wants to at least have the chance to use normal vision. That's how I'm justifying his goal anyway.

Exrotes2026-01-18 21:05

My understanding (that may be completely wrong) is that his "sight" right now is basically a low resolution colour/shape detector within a few feet of his person based on the same magical sense he uses to shape/colour water balls. So he can get information from it like there being a blue object X feet away in the shape of a hand with 4 fingers up but he isn't able to tell what colour/shape the drapes in the background are unless he focuses on them instead.

Zeikos2026-01-18 21:42

He seems to have a passive 360 degrees radar of some sort though.
Probably lower resolution, but he can see behind himself too.

Only_Math_18372026-01-20 00:10

He has a freaking blindfold he's supposed to be blind, not having impair vision

MagDorito2026-01-19 03:45

Remember that he has to actively use water magic as a catalyst to take in light & it has a different fov & perspective than if he had regular eyes. That's a lot of effort just to experience the world kinda sorta the same as the rest of us. & If he does find a mechanism through which water can be used to make functioning eyeballs, then he's not the only person who benefits from that information, but ALL blind people

SA0902026-01-19 03:53

I do remember that (was actually looking forward to explore this form of a “sight” slowly with the guy with new additions every now and then), but it’s not presented as a difficult thing to do at all now. Not to me anyway.

Shmappii2026-01-18 15:39

You're telling me that Kunon isn't the strongest and all of these academically-inclined folks are appreciative of a creative approach to their field of study? That's fantastic, so many medieval fantasy settings fall back on rigid systems and definitions for magic as a crutch to make an outside-of-the-box protagonist overpowered. This actually felt like people being excited at a prodigy bringing change into their passion.

The humor even had more variety since Kunon wasn't in control of every interaction, definitely my favorite episode of the show so far.

Calwings2026-01-18 17:09

I totally agree. The fact that this society seems to treat magic as something whimsical and worth experimenting with (rather than just a tool or a weapon) is very refreshing, and seeing all of those sorcerers acting like kids in a candy shop when seeing creative new uses for magic was so fun.

EffectiveImportant512026-01-19 15:04

This is akin to going into a college atmosphere. It is a nice change. But I think most other animes are more battle, power oriented because the Kingdoms are not as stable. This feels like a very stable kingdom so far.

But, it is a peace-time application of magic. But there are signs that it is not just R&D.

Boris-_-Badenov2026-01-18 20:41

I'm sure he will gain more stars/more types

basuga_BFE2026-01-18 20:45

La Verità transformation...

powerhcm82026-01-18 22:03

He will probably need more magic types to be able to create his eyes.

lordover12342026-01-19 06:46

I agree with you, but my intuition says that since he was able to “sense” color already, he could probably formulate his water magic into lens to focus the light on dark-tinted water and get most of the way there.

But he has no way of knowing how an eyeball actually works, so I’m just enjoying the fresh take on magic like everybody else and hoping he gets his goal :)

CelioHogane2026-01-19 02:36

Actual university student vibes.

avboden2026-01-19 21:32

All the sorcerers just being magic-geeks is great!

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-18 15:41

I like how the sorcerers all act like children with new toys when presented with new magic lol.

Poor father got too attached to the water cat, Kunon killed it right in front of him.

diacewrb2026-01-18 16:25

> Poor father got too attached to the water cat, Kunon killed it right in front of him.

He should get his son to make him his own personal water cat cafe.

And water dogs for the rest of the family.

athrun_12026-01-18 17:35

As a cat lover, If I was his father, I would cut his allowance in half for what he had done. Kidding aside, it is good to see that he is not ridiculously OP. He is still bested by individuals with experience.

Yes, he is talented, able to conjure other things like that cat and water doll, but not too far fetched. Pretty sure anyone from that mage group will be able to do just that if given time.

MagDorito2026-01-19 03:39

I imagine they haven't yet specifically bc of his goal. Since his magic leans heavily into the texture, color, & sensation of water, he has a perspective on it that they dont

athrun_12026-01-19 09:00

True. For Kunon, magic is his way of living that is why he is able to improve so much. As for the others, it is just their job or something.

Luck_Is_My_Talent2026-01-18 19:34

I only had this cat for one hour and if somethinge were to ha...

NOOOOO.

feb9142026-01-18 20:44

"I haven't even given it a name"

shanesol2026-01-18 15:59

This show is dumb... And might still be one of my dark horse favs of the season

AndroidHero232026-01-18 16:15

I'm loving this anime, its really fun and cute.

iozoepxndx2026-01-18 16:15

Those horses look straight out of South Park LMAOO

LikeAnAssistant2026-01-19 08:13

They must have been horses created with Kunon's magic and he was right in saying that the motions were unnatural.

BiggerG72026-01-18 16:30

RIP to the water kitty that never got named lol.

And holy crap that’s a lot of princes’ and princesses! Glad this show is so laid back cause if it was any other show I feel like there would be a lot of plotting from these royals trying to get rid of each other for the throne.

LordCalem2026-01-18 16:30

This show is so freaking funny, man. I love its take on the sorcerers; they were all curious and hyped to see what Kunon was doing with magic. Also love the princess, she's a fun (also cute) girl.

iozoepxndx2026-01-18 16:39

I feel like the second princess got reincarnated to "live as she pleases" lol

YdenMkII2026-01-18 16:42

As goofy as this episode was, I hope Kunon takes to heart that great power comes with great responsibility speech his dad gave.

athrun_12026-01-18 17:17

The princess be like: Save me the technical explanation. All you need is know is don't sign any contract, and let me have those roller blades.

EienGem2026-01-18 17:19

Hilarious AF EP. Shame no banters with Maid Iko or Mirika.

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-18 17:21

I miss the maid.

I feel this series is missing some sense of urgency or purpose, since it isn't cozy or charming enough to survive as just a slice of life. At least with the maid the was a charming enough character for Kunon to interact with. Any sense of pathos has also been lost since the premiere, and now its mostly a goofy comedy.

I did laugh at the goofy flying maid simulacrum, was reminded of the 2D Nico flapping in the wind from an early Witch Watch episode. So the series isn't unfunny, and since it looks an ominous looking character will be introduced in the next episode, perhaps I will get what I wish.

MagDorito2026-01-19 03:52

I mean, his goal isn't "save the world" or "slay the demon king" Kunon just wants to see like an average person. That's the conceit of the show. It's his journey to create eyes. There's no dire time limit. It's about the journey to his destination

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-19 05:41

Sure, and no problem with that. I just wish there some additional hook to either give some urgency to the proceedings, or then if this was meant to be a slow paced and very deliberate magical slice of life it was more charming. The last part is of course where your mileage may vary and others might already consider the story charming enough. For me, not so currently.

I_like_boring_stuff22026-01-18 17:36

MC is hilarious

Casually dissing his last magic teacher, "wow they already thought of what Jenie(?) sensei could never think of"

Immediately killing off his dad's para-social relationship with the magic water cat

Goes out on a late night drive with his fiance's sister:

"We can't, I have a fiancee, my first time must be with Mirika, won't your fiancee have a misunderstanding?"

"I don't have a fiancee"

"Oh it's alright then"

hm???

Nyaako1232026-01-18 17:44

I'm glad this isn't an isekai. It actually makes the show so much better.

Western-Internal-7512026-01-18 23:14

This anime shows that 90% of isekai don’t need to be an isekai. It works perfectly well without him secretly being a 40yo who got reborn

fuzzynyanko2026-01-18 17:51

I love that the Royal magicians are all goofy nerds. I hope his relationship with Raysha stays friendly, though I wouldn't blame Mirika for getting jealous

LezRock2026-01-18 18:23

The horses moved so weirdly in the beginning. With the mention of his magic animals still having strange movements, maybe he created those too? 😆

So with this princess not having a fiance, is that implying that she and Kunon could also get together after he becomes king? It seems like it would be pretty far down the line considering the number of other princes and princesses.

djthomp2026-01-18 18:29

So the evil looking dark tower is the specific part of the royal castle where they keep the mages? Now that's just not very genre savvy.

Raysha is pretty great, good for the future to have a nice and friendly relationship with your future sister in law.

It cute how much Mirika is in love with Kunon, arranged marriages don't always work out that pleasantly.

EffectiveImportant512026-01-19 15:14

In truth, a lot of then ended up like this if both sides were faithful. Time spent with person can make you grow to appreciate them.

The problem is the remaining faithful part which not everyone does. This is why arranged marriage societies have strong societal pressures.

Next_Package_57102026-01-18 19:09

Who is the bad guy in this show? I'm assuming it will be someone with the "foul" crest...

Luck_Is_My_Talent2026-01-18 22:20

This isn't that kind of series.

There aren't bad guys or antagonists. The entire series is about Kunon having fun doing magic experiments and research with other mages.

darthvall2026-01-19 05:18

Oh, definitely a keeper

Sullanl0l2026-01-19 06:02

And shamelessly flirting with every woman because of his deranged maid.

Next_Package_57102026-01-18 19:12

Actually can someone explain the joke in the beginning about the maid and the cats outside the castle? It seemed to be a pervy joke because the father blamed the maid for it, but i didnt understand...

LeVin19862026-01-18 20:17

In Japan, an extramarital woman is sometimes referred to as a 'thieving cat', though I think the most common usage of that term is like daytime soap opera thing. I THINK the conversation is referring to the idea that among nobles, having a mistress outside the household is considered perfectly normal, but bringing them into the house is not.

Envelope_Torture2026-01-18 23:00

I just assumed this, thanks for clarifying.

Only_Math_18372026-01-20 00:11

In french a cat design, hem, the private part of a woman. So I had the same idea but dirtier lmao

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Roeclean2026-01-18 19:55

so does 18:30 imply that kingdoms don't use sorcerers in war??

darthvall2026-01-19 05:21

I theorised that they're too powerful for internal struggle (e.g. potentially ruining the kingdom), that's why they're prohibited to be involved in the royal succession.

War against other kingdom should be a different matter though.

Interestingly, so far they acted more like scholar/academics rather than war tools.

OneDeuxTriSeiGo2026-01-20 04:18

Also you don't want your sorcerers (for all their very explicit military abilities and otherwise) to be picking sides in a potentially bloody internal conflict.

You don't want those fights to cast doubt on whether those forces are loyal to the current leadership or whether they need to be undercut to avoid a political conflict. Given how clearly valuable and fairly limited high quality sorcery is, you can't risk wasting that talent. Especially given that talent and techniques refined need to be taught and passed down or else have to be rediscovered.

It's just far better to keep all of that explicitly neutral and loyal to the kingdom

Mons90902026-01-18 19:58

Iko is best girl

skavinger58822026-01-18 20:32

Kunon has some of the most queer theater kid energy I've seen in a anime protag in a while, and I'm here for it

SYZekrom2026-01-18 21:54

When the dad lifts his hand off the cat's head the ear farther away from the camera wasn't drawn under his hand so its just a floating ear tip lol

There's a freaky flying maid coming towards me.

JordanTH2026-01-19 04:53

> When the dad lifts his hand off the cat's head the ear farther away from the camera wasn't drawn under his hand so its just a floating ear tip lol

It's fine, that was just Kunon making a mistake with the details. Totally diagetic, definitely!

fractal_magnets2026-01-18 23:07

I cloned my maid but am struggling with human movements... for science...

kalirion2026-01-19 02:25

"I didn't even name him!" made me chuckle. How long until MC can make autonomous water golems with basic AI, and perhaps even grant them sentience later?

In their defense, there were no "no ice skating in the hallways" signs up.

Even MC is stunned at how laid back this school is.

His father is speaking as if mages can simply refuse to take part in military conflicts in service of their nation.

His "new master" next ep has gotta be an isekaiee. No one else would actually look and dress like that, right?

CelioHogane2026-01-19 02:35

You know, i can apreciate every single sorcerer being a dumbass.

MagDorito2026-01-19 03:59

I'm glad that Kunon is getting along with his family in law. Raysha seems really fun to be around. A lot less strict than I was expecting.

The sorcerers are all treasures. Goofy. All of them. Speaking of which, why did Raysha have to call that guy bitchless & why does it disqualify him from teaching Kunon? Do you have to match his game or something? cuz it seems like he's peerless

NationalStrategy2026-01-19 04:34

With great power comes great responsibility

Itzon2026-01-19 06:49

Do the writers and animators even watch this show? Kid is blind right? Holds up four fingers to test a blind kid what his rank is and “will he like the color of my dress” 😂

NegativePossession12026-01-19 07:30

Yo, that black haired sorcerer guy in the preview had a rather gay blush going on 👀. Considering he already added that prince to his harem i have a feeling this magic teacher guy is next lol.

SopmodTew2026-01-19 11:30

Flying water Iko was ultra funny 🤣

marsh_5222026-01-19 11:50

His father has no brain only vibes, i love him

Shizzi2026-01-19 15:50

This is such a silly show and it works love how the grandmaster is that playful

shatteredauthor2026-01-19 19:13

It's a small thing but applause to Kunon's dad for putting his foot down and clearly stating that while Kunon can play around at times he still needs to take responsibility for his use of magic and there are no exceptions to that rule. In another show I'd even go so far as saying he is definetly gonna get killed off cause that was basically Uncle Bens "With Great Power..." speech and is one of the most classic of Red Flags lol

Relevant_Syllabub8952026-01-19 19:56

at this point his blindness is a complete gimmick how the fuck he saw the wizard raising his 4 fingers? his eyes are even covered in the blindfold so it makes even less sense

colin86969082026-01-20 00:06

lol I thought this episode was trying to show me how useless magic actually is.. so what was up with that very last scene.

Only_Math_18372026-01-20 00:08

Can we talk about the fact Kunon is not blind at all ? I mean what the fuck ? This episode is such a disaster. How can a blind person since birth can reproduce perfect animals, how can a blind person reproduce the exact face of his maid AND his clothes ? How can a blind person see the number of fingers ? How can a blind person since birth have a freaking favorite color ? How can a blind person do skating inside a building without straight up going into a wall ? Why doesn't he use his staff as tool to walk like any blind person would do ? This is so dumb, why even bother with a blind MC if he can do everything a seing person can do ? What is even the point of creating magic eye when you can already see everything ? This episode ruined the show for me

OneDeuxTriSeiGo2026-01-20 04:12

They addressed this in previous episodes. He already has in a sense created eyes with his magic. He can sense colors and rough shapes with his magic and he can refine it with touch and careful, slow sensing via magic.

It's not like literal eyes where you see the world all at once but rather a more imprecise and unique way of seeing the world.

I agree it's kind of ridiculous the degree to which he can do things which traditionally depend on sight but the show makes it clear he's spent extended periods of time refining these techniques to compensate so it's somewhat excusable.

Only_Math_18372026-01-20 04:28

Thanks I might rewatch it because I thought he could feel those things about his magic only, not on the outside world (I felt like he didn't know what were the color for example, but his teacher told her yes the way you color those bubble is this and that), creating things for me was definitly not perceiving it. If I'm not clear to me he could create any color of water, not seing the color on other stuff

So I guess i didn't understand, I'll rewatch it

OneDeuxTriSeiGo2026-01-20 20:14

With the coloring of the water magic and him getting the colors wrong with the apples, that's actually a nod to an age old thought experiment and general question about how people process information.

We can sense colors but we only know what they are after we learn them. How do you know red is red and green is green. You can tell the two are different but until someone gives you the first context clue of "this thing is red" you don't have a framework to understand which colors are which, only that they are different.

So with that, Kunon could tell what colors were via his magic and therefore reproduce them but he didn't actually have experience tying them to the common understanding of which color is actually the red one and which is the green.

malacata2026-01-20 02:58

This ep cracked me up. Those sorcerers are all a bunch of goofballs

NoHead17152026-01-20 05:15

yeah, that was definitely not about cats if you can keep them outside but not inside the house.

love the sorcerers nerding out on magic. creativity is the key to the best magic.

Highlord902026-01-20 17:29

I like the sorcerors. I expected them to be very stuck up and serious with a name like the Black Tower but they're just there for the love of magic. Also why is nobody talking about the Iko doll flying around scaring maids, that shit was so funny!

Glass-Cable-4012026-01-20 19:22

I'm I the only one seeing the bad clipping of the cats ear 1 min into the episode? The father is petting the water cat and then lift his hand, only for the cats ear and face to stay shaped after his hand. It even stays like that almost 2 min later when they reuse the same frames.
I have seen it and now I can't unsee it lol!

GandalfVirus2026-01-22 01:05

This show is still good but why don't they do anything with his blindness? Its such an interesting weakness and the only reason he wanted to do magic. And I get that he can now detect colors with his water balls and shapes? but he isn't even using the water balls anymore. He can just see whatever. I like that he is much more confident in himself and isn't scared of moving around by himself but why would they just completely drop that part of his character? A kid who was too scared of going outside is now not scared of flying at full speed holding onto a bubble. Or iceskating around the halls of a castle he has never been in.

You can do so much with blindness. Even if he is now only partially blind, which is the most common type of blindness in real life and still a disability. It feels like they didn't want to write blindness anymore. I'm sure it will comeback when they need it for a challenge, but this episode made me feel kinda disappointed. Still a good episode though.

He can see how many fingers someone is holding up. He can read perfectly. He can write apparently. I find the restrictions of a character are what interest me most, watching them overcome those restrictions or navigate them. We don't actually even know what his vision is anymore since they said he can see colors and shapes but WONT SHOW US WHAT HIS VISION LOOKS LIKE. Episode 1 they showed what he can see. Then they kinda showed us when he first saw a color. But nothing since then??? It feels like his vision should be an important part of this show but its just being ignored now like a lot of other anime where the main character has a major life effecting trait but is ignored after the first few episodes or chapters because maybe the writers got bored of it or couldn't think of anything else to do with it. Ok I just wanted to rant about it.

I'm still really enjoying the show but the lack of representation for the one thing they set out to represent saddens me. I still have hope though.

DrZoark2026-01-22 12:15

Rip, little cat. These mages are like kids with new toys, haha.

Ok_Juice_20372026-01-23 02:33

Am I the only one or did anyone else notice the ridiculous animation of the horses legs in the very fist scene of this ep??

HeliChwan2026-01-23 19:13

I am so glad I gave this anime a chance, the first half of Episode 1 was kinda dull like how the princess felt towards Kunon. It was around the maid's influence and further actions by Kunon and the increasingly well made storywriting and vibes that made this anime flourish into something unique. Like wow. Never had a feeling of dullness in an anime and gradually liking it so much within the span of 2 episodes, like it made a comeback turnaround. Comedy was on point as well!

Looking forward for more episodes!