Darwin Jihen • The Darwin Incident - Episode 3 discussion
*Darwin Jihen*, episode 3
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[Obviously the most pacifistic way to get them to stop... is to just give them what they want.](https://i.imgur.com/qfq0iqE.jpeg) It will work for the moment. One step at a time.
Like as in, I am Here for you son.
"1 am W 30N"
Doc Chimp Lover really did a number on the institute huh? Bro makes a humanzee with his favorite genius chimp, destroys his notes, and bounces without a word.
Charlie’s cold indifference to his bio mom is interesting. I don’t think she’s totally lost her intelligence.
I’ve seen what a regular chimp can do to a person’s face. Wild those 3 creeps thought they could tangle with Charlie. Bro coulda gone apeshit on ‘em. He still might now that he’s shown up at their door…
[](#lewd)
That fight scene looked pretty good. Charlie isn't just strong he fights like a trained martial artist.
[](#spooked)
"Hybrid human premise? Ewwwwwww!!!!"
Love the story btw, don't take this as criticism. I'm a huge Darwin Incident shill.
Being on the receiving end of a chimpanzee's grip is scary enough, but throw in the sapience of a human and Charlie's uncanny calmness? The chills, man.
Reverse side from EVA point of view
“Norma1”
I have a feeling she's still better than what they believe; She wasn't just playing with the letters imho, I think she was trying to write something but didn't have enough letters!
Seriously, don’t look up what happened to Pony unless you can really stomach the worst of humanity.
I second on not reading it, unless you can handle the worst of the worst.
Dr was living up to the first part of his surname.
Karen behavior aside, I wouldn't say it's unreasonable for a school board person to think "Maybe we shouldn't have a monkey at school", and for a mother to think "Maybe my daughter shouldn't hang out with the target of a terrorist network"!
Is he going after the guys because he genuinely wants her to feel at ease or does he just want to test what they talked about (remove the source of anxiety = the anxious person is able to relax)?
I guess their different perspectives show one more difference between a wild animal and a human...
To humans, situations that would require a 'fight or flight' response aren't common, so they spend a life stressing about them for the 1 or 2 times it happen...
But for an animal, it's pretty much a 24/7 thing (when there's a predator) so no point stressing about it all day long, they simply react every time it happens, so they keep that stress energy for when it matters!
>Charlie's motives and whether or not his desire to help Lucy is genuine
I kinda would like them to revisit their discussion about Charlie being willing to kill humans if they had a disease... Would like him to be asked "What if it was Lucy?"
[](#bigthink)
I think this is just proof that his hybridism gives super human mental strength as well.
I still find it so weird how Charlie has been allowed to be live together with the Steins and now just attending a random ordinary school instead of some special institution somewhere...
Lucy's mother had a pretty nasty public outburst against her daughter "socializing" with Charlie. She will probably prove an antagonist from now on...
Looks like Charlie is a master tracker in addition to everything else, and has now cornered the terrorists in their motel room. How does he do it? Any potential explanation will have to wait until next week.
I find the social aspects (minus the continued odd vegan commentary that is making it seem almost like a religious sect), Charlie's personality, and odd couple friendship with Lucy to be the most compelling aspects of the series so far. The "humanzee super soldier" thing OTOH is unconvincing and pretty corny.
Scent is the simplest and most realistic explanation. The crazy thing is the range of his sense of smell if that's how he tracked them. It wouldn't surprise me if they say he exceeds the senses of an elephant.
I highly doubt the doctor banged Eva. Artificial insemination is the only logical path, but he had to modify human sperm first so the chimp can read it and get pregnant.
I feel gross just typing out this joke. :(
Charlie’s indifference to his biological mom and in the station interesting. He really thinks different compared to those surrounding him, doesn’t he?
Seeing how strong Charlie is, I’s starting to think that Grossman main goal was creating some kind of super soldier or a living being better than humans in all aspects
Not like it would be unusual for many humans to behave the same. If you found out suddenly at the age of 40 that your parents adopted you and you were told your bio-parents are alive and can meet them, would you? It would be easy to justify indifference after finding out why they gave you up. If you love your adoptive parents, there's little to gain from meeting your bio parents.
The studio is really giving justice with the art and animation, and the VAs are absolutely KILLING IT!
I love everything about that and charlies design/attitude is growing on me so fast
For those aren't aware: For(wal)k is another studio that has david production staff brought over. In the case of For(wal)k, this is due to producer Kosuke Matsunaga (松永 康佑) having left davidpro for For(wal)k. I've heard some speculation that For(wal)k might be Matsunaga's own studio, but I'm not sure about that. Anyways, he also brought some people along with him to the studio. Some familiar names on the episode include:
*Animation Directors*
**Hideyuki Morioka** (守岡 英行, Character Designer for "Fire Force" and "Undead Unluck" Season 1)
**Hiroyuki Okaji** (大梶 博之, Was one of the main animators on "Fire Force" Seasons 1 and 2, alongside "Undead Unluck" Season 1. Also did key animation for this episode.)
*Key Animators*
**Shunichi Ishimoto** (石本 峻一, Mostly known for his work on the JoJo series, having worked on all parts so far in various roles, including working as the character designer on "Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan". Also worked on "Undead Unluck" Season 1 as a Chief Animation Director, and did Character Designs for the "Winter Arc" special episode)
**Kazuhiro Miwa** (三輪 和宏, known for being the main animator on "Fire Force" Seasons 1 and 2. Still working on the series by doing Design Works on given episodes. Was also one of the main animators on "Undead Unluck" season 1)
**Hirokazu Sato** (佐藤 浩一, was one of the main animators on "Undead Unluck" Season 1)
**Mamoru Kurosawa** (黒沢 守, did several storyboards for "Fire Force" Seasons 1 and 2, alongside "Undead Unluck" Season 1)
*Production Assistant*
**Shigehiro Moriya** (森谷 繁寛, started out as a production assistant on "Fire Force" Season 1 before being promoted to Production Desk for Season 2. Would also be the Production Desk on "Undead Unluck" Season 1.)
From what I can see, For(wal)k is a really new studio, with their only other work being the Opening Animation for the show "Jack of All Trades, Party of None" that's also airing this season. Had the same people involved, with the exception of Hirokazu Sato and Hideyuki Morioka.
It was really cool to see Charlie fight, I was intrigued by how he was using the area and things around him, I do wonder how he's learned to fight. He might have practiced in the forest or maybe he can learn things just by observation and mentally imagine himself physically doing it.
I'm glad they're all safe, I was sure his parents were going to die but Lucy would survive for the sake of the story.
I hope the doctor wasn't implying that Grossman might have gotten physical with Eva, this entire time I thought it was all done artificially. I also can't figure out what Eva wrote, if it's "I am worn" or "I am woman" or something that has yet to pop up.
I'd like to imagine he's watched action films and practiced in the forest. The way he was consciously punching like a boxer instead of just grabbing and breaking bones leads me to believe he's seen fighting somewhere.
So Charlie is not only insanely strong but also very intelligent due to heterosis (on top of that we learned today his bio mom was already unusual intelligent for a Chimpanzee).
[](#urbansmile)
**looks at you for the primitive ant you really are**
Edit: (oh crap, this banter might come off as an insult, it's just a poorly though out joke, my bad)
[Relatable, but kinda sad too!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/62618365ab3b.png)
He doesn't care about his mom, because "she's just the one who gave birth to him"... She didn't raise him and all.
This was reminiscent of adopted kids who don't think too good of their biological parents and only care about their adoptive parents, but in this case, his mom didn't have a say in this...
[](#emptyinside)
Her losing her health/intellect and all was sad too...
Though it seems [she still got something going!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/0aaa8a443c56.png)
I'm not sure what she was trying to write (I am women?) but she was definitely trying to tell them SOMETHING.
[](#bigthink)
(I also find it a bit strange that they didn't even realize it was something, and that she was probably just missing a few letters she needed... They're supposed to be brilliant people/scientists!)
[Oh damn, they're secretly the terrorists!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/730d51178c70.png)
[](#panic)
Well, unlike said terrorists they seemed to be quite reasonable, acknowledging that there isn't a perfect way of life, [but you can just always do a little better!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c7a3e4c81b45.png)
[DID SHE FAILED TO UNDERSTAND HIS ENTIRE SPEECH?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/aad27c90c405.png)
[](#punch)
The entire point is "Doing a little is better than doing nothing", so even if their veganism doesn't mean everything is perfect, it doesn't mean it's pointless!
They're essentially saying "We might end up being responsible for 50 animal deaths in our lives, but it's a hell of a lot better than being responsible for 5000 animal deaths in our lives"!
[Oh damn, is this the start of the romcom arc?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/05ec75dedaef.png)
[Ok maybe not; That escalated quickly!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/b4f73e0fea54.png)
[](#spooked)
I'm also surprised that they're fine with taking Lucy out; I thought maybe they'd want to keep her as the "link" to Charlie! (Or maybe to use as blackmail to force his hand)
[Oh nice, he's coming to them to make the kidnapping easier!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c865299b5c01.png)
[](#spooked)
Yes that's what I was thinking
[](#seasonalthink)
Ah yes, when a half-chimpanzee knows better how to take care of mental health than I do.
1 am W 30 N
"I AM W three Zero N"
I Am W emo N >> "I am Woman" is my best guess.
But looking at it Upside-Down
"N03MwpT"
"No EmpT" - translates to "Not Brain Dead".
I deserve it.
It would have been very easy to shoot charlie by accident. It would also have immediately alerted the police. Not to mention that in a close quarters fight against an unarmed target, a knife still wins.
Its one of the basic things they teach in rules of close quarters engagements. Anything under 7 feet of distance & the knife is more lethal than your gun.
Did you see the thing? The thing that Charlie did?! And that other thing?! Action!
It is certainly re-affirming the "Charlie is friggin (demig)god" message.
I think I'm starting to understand why "action" anime are so popular. Is this what people feel when they get... excited over action?
I love our dexterity-build-rogue protagonist. Although being able to lift a rug with that much weight on it means he's a strength build. I wonder if he's also got that godly intelligence stat.
Lucy's mom may be a bigot but she's also right about her daughter being in danger by being around Charlie, though not from Charlie like she's probably imagining.
The possibilities for science and what could potentially be learned and refined over time are endless. If something is physically possible, there's no sense avoiding it out of superstition and taboo.
In any case, I’m definitely intrigued by the story, and the cliffhanger with Charlie going to meet with the ALA goons was a surprise. I’m vegan myself and I have yet to see any media besides documentaries discussing the topic so explicitly as this show. Really interesting to see so many perspectives on the screen and in online discussions about the series
But listen, I have this theory: Eva was writing an adress I believe. Because like how Charlie find terrorists? He has no clues, no information about them. I believe the creepy dude is connected to the experiment, and so is Evo, so she knows some things, but maybe doesn't trust people, so she's acting dumb. Or she knows there are spies in the clinic. So she made the code for either Lucy or Charlie, I think Charlie most likely.
W and N are coordinates, W for West, N for North. So something like: West 30th Street, North side.
She maybe wrote "I am at West 30th Street, North side" or something similar. I'm not in USA, but I looked at Google and American adresseses look similar.
Loving the way Charlie is kind of learning from Lucy. We saw that his mindset before is reactive rather than proactive, but after that conversation it seems that he shifted to proactive (for other people).