Oshi no Ko Season 3 - Episode 2 discussion
*Oshi no Ko Season 3*, episode 2
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What an opening. 3 for 3 the openings always over deliver with this show
Might be my favorite so far. The scene with Ruby and all the Ai paintings and plushies is incredible.
Visual and Music complement each other. Firee!!
[](#bocchitheshock)
But the visuals just really drive the whole home holy shit what an awesome OP
And also Ruby probably thinking long-game that when he gets promoted, he'll help her get promoted.
Maybe she’s aiming to get the *director* fired?
Edit: AD —) director
However, he does appear to have a responsible head above his shoulders and knows to separate reality from fiction
It’s kind of interesting seeing how Akane feels about her Not Fake relationship with Aqua. He’s good at playing the bf.
Her daughter is just following in her footsteps.
These Hoshino siblings are growing into very calculated performers. Albeit Aqua realizing Ruby is doing it too makes him understandably suspicious.
Yeah sure she's managing to become successful, but it feels like she's twisting everyone around her to do it. Like it's only a matter of time before it all comes crashing down, and it's questionable if she'll only hurt everyone around her, or if she'll also ruin herself in the process.
Compared to Aqua who was a master manipulator who not only made it, but also made things generally better for everyone near him, and the contrast is striking. Even if he were willing to act like this, I think it would be a lot more certain he'd get away with it on his own part.
Ruby's previous life was even shorter than her current one (probably cancer), so she has less life experience to work on.
This season is mainly Ruby doing the coniving, wonder when Aqua gets back into it.
This AD seems super useless so far, but his superiors are also useless
Def not the AD's fault for unreasonable demands of his superior who also expects him to do things he didnt even ask him.
Did we watch the same episode? Bro is carrying hard and even doing endless overtime while constantly getting shit on. Tell me even one thing he did so far that makes him seem useless?
[](#airfist)
What's interesting is that for us, the viewers, we kinda needed to get hit in the head with the "He actually wanted Kana" because in seasons 1+2 it seems like they were head to head.
I wonder if Miyako noticed Ruby’s change? It’s been 6 months in-universe but it’s been a long ass wait for the audience to get the characters back
Brother he is actually most at peace currently after losing Ai.
[](#azusalaugh)
I couldn’t help but burst out laughing
And then Aqua is like WTF and roasts her
Knew they wouldn’t get approval for the Tokyo Blade cosplay, though I’m surprised Director Urushibara at least made the effort. Thought he’d just lie his arse off about it. If they couldn’t get the rights for *Tokyo Blade*, I reckon they could at least do cosplays for *T\*kyo Bl\*de*.
I was half-expecting Ruby would ask Aqua to get in touch with Abiko to get the approval, but I guess this is to show how much the entertainment industry needs to adapt at the last minute and adapt to demanding bosses.
[](#pout)
Ruby had finally tracked down Ichigo, who acts like he wants no part of her efforts to locate her father, even though Ai was like a daughter to him. Which is why, if he DID know who the father was, he would've killed him himself. But at the same time he knows it's not smart to rush into things and make waves among Ai's old contacts for fear of what might happen, showing some consideration to the wife he basically abandoned and left with two kids to raise.
But despite that, he still can't help but act like a manager, respect Ruby's current career choice, and advise her on what she has to do...right now she's so low on the celebrity totem pole that no one would even care if she got caught drinking underage. So what she has to do is play to her character on-screen, grease the production wheel, play off her brother, and go far enough in this industry to where she DOES matter.
And, admittedly, when it comes to playing a (calculated) cute and ditzy blonde on the camera, she's perfect. She even knows how to embellish stories to great effect, and play off Aqua perfectly. Aqua can even see what she's doing.
It's also important to treat your Assistant Directors, or AD's, right and Ruby REALLY turns on the charm on Yoshizumi. And considering how difficult his job is, having someone he thinks is flirting with him by being nice and gifting him a winning smile is probably a godsend. Especially when the director is such a jerk to him.
It's harder to find professional cosplayers to do Tokyo Blade for a variety show than you might think. Though of course the director cares more about the T&A and is just leaving most of the work to Yoshizumi.
Aqua earns great boyfriend points for showing up for Akane with an umbrella in the rain...and Akane earns great girlfriend points by ignoring the second umbrella and choosing to grab his arm so they can walk home in the rain together properly. Is she aware that he had feelings for Kana? Yes. In fact she gets pouty thinking of how overly-considerate he has to be towards Kana BECAUSE of said feelings. But Aqua is trying to be a great boyfriend to her and care about her, and that's enough for Akane. She's genuinely happy, and maybe Aqua is too, and that might be all that matters. Although woe betide Aqua if he ever cheats, because he won't live to see the next day.
Dang, Ruby really assisting Yoshizumi here by recruiting her gal pal Minami. And making the deal sound sweet because of what it might do for Minami to step out of being a gravure idol for a minute. Though Minami really concerned about her friend that she hopes the industry doesn't corrupt Ruby...but it might be too late.
It shows how desperate Yoshizumi is that he's even relying on his little sister for help...but admittedly, his little sister Mimi IS cute and a VTuber and cosplayer, so she actually might be a good choice. And her brother has been helping her out with her career, so maybe she owes it to him? I mean, she's also complained about him on her cosplay handle so...also, she looks great in a China Dress!
All that work and they didn't even get the approval to use Tokyo Blade...so poor Yoshizumi has to pivot, with some help from his sister. But jeez, this director is such a jerk.
I haven't seen cosplayers this intense walking with a suitcase since 2.5 Dimensional Seduction.
The ED has Ruby and Aqua dressed up all fancy, as cardboard cutouts on-screen, and dancing together...all the while their past lives still haunt them and their relationship.
[](#yousaidsomethingdumb)
These OP visuals are really damn cool.
Yeah i didnt realize the guy fishing end of last ep was the strawberry pres. Wow he looks rough...
Jesus Ruby is savage as hell. She just wants answers but we just dont have much.
Damn... Pres getting excited what he told Rudby worked, he still cares...
Play the clown huh? An interesting plan.
Boiling soap to make soap... huh. Aqua is onto her ploy though good.
Oh no Ruby buttering up turned to AD-kun thinking shes into him hah...
Jesus the old guy hitting people sucks. WHat an ass hat.
They are working him to the bone jesuus.
Wait the old guy wants lewd cosplayers to get views jesus he sucks.
Yeah getting cosplayers right before comiket is not happening...
Oh boy, Akane knows Aqua likes Kana. And prob knows why hes with her too.
Akana just wants to enjoy herself and her fake/real boyfriend.
She def needs to tell him the truth though, shes holding him back on purpose.
Oooo we can get Ruby's pink friend to cosplay, not a bad idea.
She doesnt like the idea because shes not a cosplayer and would be lieing.
Oh even her friend noticed Ruby is acting different, good on her.
AD-KUN HAD A BRAID HAIR KIGURUMI WEARING IMOUTO!? KYAA~
So shes a vtuber and cosplayer huh. 300k people not bad.
HAHA HIM WALKING IN ON HER IN THE MAID OUTFIT IS HILARIOUS.
Oh no big bro has dirt on her... shes doomed... o7
Jesus christ that old guy sucks. "i like this one shes stacked." Dude please...
Oh of course the old guy didnt do his job... he sucks even more.
Making excuses now too man he sucks so muc. Hes asking for everything.
People like this exist in the industy and they suck aa lot if you have to deal with them.
And of course we dont have other costumes because old guy didnt say shit to him...
Imouto to save the day, yay. Shes got spares for Ruby.
OoOoooo this ed is neat. Showing Ruby and Aqua's old lives thats cool.
AND AQUA WITH BLACK EYES AGAIN YES LETS GO!
Her Strange/Fake boyfriend
And I can say the same about [the ED](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWvFR00t-NE), as we got [another strong song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYkBISlv0w) and [visuals for it](https://imgchest.com/p/o24anvxoe7l) in this new season.
As for [the episode itself](https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bnvw5j75)... I've always loved the side of the show that focuses on [how the showbiz industry works behind the scenes](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/d436a7f97cdc.png), so I really enjoyed today's episode as it centered around [Ruby](https://imgchest.com/p/xny82oxq5yb) trying to boost her popularity and forge a relationship with [AD Yoshizumi](https://imgchest.com/p/ej7mvkmwn7d) (who [has, by the way, very cute little sister](https://imgchest.com/p/a8466kapo4x)).
I'm also very happy that [Akane is doing well and is very happy](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2n3pb9yl), even though she knows [Aqua](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2n3pd9yl) has a crush on [Kana](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/2a4ccce475c9.png). Oh, and [her pouts are as adorable as ever](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ab9c8132a73d.png)!
By the way, both [OP](https://imgchest.com/p/o24anvx2d7l) and [ED](https://imgchest.com/p/o24anvxoe7l) songs are already avaible online. Here are links to:
OP song "TEST ME" by CHANMINA:
* [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/4zWZzoe6u8FdjSYowVPKeZ?si=2twPiMZNTkiOCSZOTUyj2A)
* [Apple Music](https://music.apple.com/pl/album/test-me-single/1866862251)
* [Youtube Music](https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n2voSv_ALvRAN4uXce8nBgK9pboUoiK6c&si=2RVa1zVIXe0_Jxtz)
* [Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ4-H-nNNz4)
ED song "Serenade" by natori:
* [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/track/0CWAQlHsvfqcKJVVz9up2R?si=de95f3f961714648)
* [Apple Music](https://music.apple.com/us/song/serenade/1858168846)
* [Youtube Music](https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYkBISlv0w&si=BilYTdmM-pr8QDdo)
* [Youtube](https://youtu.be/WiYkBISlv0w?si=tjmJOR_cxmBdoFEm)
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* [OP](https://imgchest.com/p/o24anvx2d7l)
* [ED](https://imgchest.com/p/o24anvxoe7l)
* [Ruby](https://imgchest.com/p/xny82oxq5yb)
* [Akane](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2n3pb9yl)
* [Mimi](https://imgchest.com/p/a8466kapo4x)
* [Group scenes](https://imgchest.com/p/ne7bnvw5j75)
* [Aqua](https://imgchest.com/p/5xy2n3pd9yl)
* [Yoshizumi](https://imgchest.com/p/ej7mvkmwn7d)
* [Others](https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gpxdjj4j)
*EDIT. I added my screeenshot albums.*
I needed to take a few minutes to enjoy all the girls' outfits and posing.
Akane is a great girl -- but Kana is nonetheless the best.
Not only is he a bad boss but he even gives off the impression he only sees womens' value for their bodies (or at least when it comes to cosplay, but the way he specified how sexy they had to be...).
The Assistant Director looks quite young for his position actually, I'm surprised
As I suspected, the ED does improve significantly with the lead in from the episode but I still don't like the transition to the chorus and the chorus itself. The earlier parts are best
I'm seated and locked in for what is shaping up to be a Ruby: Rising arc 🤩
As for OP - visuals are nice. Not sure about the music because the "opening" in EP 1 was great. Despite being an idol pop song it had dynamics that fit the show. But I guess we are about to see lots of darkness this season.
but the OP is PEAK
Oh wait that's the boss?
He seemed really excited for her there.
So, that's what she's been doing.
And that's why she's doing that.
So they're looking for OF girls?
Gee what convenient timing Aqua...
So, Ruby's inviting her.
He's going to ask his sister?
She's a VTuber?
Indeed they are, we just saw one yesterday too in Mayonaka Heart Tune. One of them even did the OP for that. Another one wrote A Misanthrope Teaches a Class for Demi-Humans that airs on Saturdays.
Speak of the devil, this is _probably_ Unnamed Company A that the VTuber that wrote that show is from, if Aka is bringing up the biggest company.
Oh no there were over 10000 at like the end of 2016 when VTubing _started_, these days it's probably lots more.
Ruby's going to cosplay too?
Gee I wonder why...
Uh... That's thrown a spanner in the works.
Ok...
OP and ED music and visual still deliver at S3!! Loving the outfits of B-Komachi + Akane.
Mem's best girl slot is in danger...
(that said, Kigurumi imoutos gives me PTSD thanks to Bunny Girl Senpai...)
[](#emptyinside)
So, Aqua’s father slept with a married woman, who has a kid (Taiki, Aqua’s half brother). Aqua’s father then kills Taiki’s mother and Taiki’s non-biological father, making it look like a murder suicide.
Aqua meets the Taiki, who tells his story. Aqua wrongly concludes that Taiki’s non-biological father was their biological father, so his revenge is over. Akane figures out the timelines don’t match but says nothing.
In the last episode of S2, a supernatural entity gives Ruby enough information to realize that the stalker didn’t kill Ai by himself, and that someone helped the stalker. Ruby then realizes that her father killed Ai, and that Aqua is trying to get revenge
](https://imgur.com/a/ppvHIB1)
Remember Aqua, [cheat on Akane](https://imgur.com/a/oGJ05Pz) with another girl and you're a dead man.
LOL Love how he picks up on the bloodlust and [gets outta there fast](https://imgur.com/a/IlZSqgw).
Ending [was just as good](https://imgur.com/a/Y7UbTz2) too
They will not find his body, _again_
I guess this means the [frog in Ruby's mouth](https://i.imgur.com/dWbGvHO.jpeg) in the OP is supposed to [symbolize Yoshizumi](https://i.imgur.com/nNctp5b.jpeg)? I mean he's hugging a frog statue for no reason right there.
The other thing I was struck by was [how fucking warm Aqua's smile to Akane was](https://i.imgur.com/BdDYVxf.jpeg). I just did the S1+S2 rewatch before this season, so Aqua's lack of this is very fresh to me. I know it must all go away this season - that much is evident from the OP and ED - but someone please protecc Aqua. :(
He may be out of the game, but [look at how excited Saitou is after hearing from Ruby that she landed the reporter gig.](https://i.imgur.com/1Uad0jt.jpeg) Considering his advice still works even years after he has left, I feel like IchigoPro would benefit if he actually came back. Although I'm not sure Miyako would let him back tho.
I feel bad for Yoshizumi. [The dude is massively overworked as the AD](https://i.imgur.com/7D16PPX.jpeg), and he has to answer [to a douchebag director](https://i.imgur.com/w3rfNyg.jpeg) who seems to be very [out of touch with reality.](https://i.imgur.com/gk1xozb.jpeg) The dude looks so sleazy, too, that I'm wondering what he did to get fired from a flagship TV station.
[Akane's really savouring her win](https://i.imgur.com/laClzca.jpeg), even though she knows that Aqua loves Kana more. [Watching her turn suddenly yandere](https://i.imgur.com/nYmbQ6e.jpeg) at the thought of Aqua cheating on her was pretty funny tho. I love how Aqua quickly gets out of there, too. xD
So it looks like [we have Minami](https://i.imgur.com/qB28iBC.jpeg), [Yoshizumi's sister](https://i.imgur.com/8waF9Ji.jpeg), and [an unknown new girl](https://i.imgur.com/3oa53e8.jpeg) as their cosplayers. Too bad for Yoshizumi that [the douchebag director didn't actually get the permissions, tho.](https://i.imgur.com/g7HdmLr.jpeg) The director is really making lots of assumptions about cosplayers [considering he thinks they can make such a last-minute change.](https://i.imgur.com/6d7ZcaC.jpeg) I hope Ruby manages to turn this incoming disaster to her advantage.
To be honest I never got the sense that Saitou and Miyako were a happily married couple (back then she just wanted to nab an actual hottie) but it does seem like he's been trying to avoid burdening her any more than he already has.
An AD is a pretty thankless job, especially when paired up with a bad director. I would not be surprised if the director sexually harassed someone to get fired the way he acts and talked about the cosplayers.
You know Akane probably **could** get away with murder if she caught her boyfriend cheating.
Suddenly Oshi No Ko is a cosplay anime.
[*Liquid* hand soap is that.](https://files.catbox.moe/kd1xdl.jpg) Bar soap gang, [rise up!](#protest)
["Immoral"??](https://files.catbox.moe/cffbwh.jpg) [Wuh?](#sakurathink)
[Poor Akane.](https://files.catbox.moe/itpwt6.jpg) [](#nanami-hug)
[Some of these](https://files.catbox.moe/3kc61i.jpg) I've not even about sure the meaning of [](#niatilt)
I imagine that when this was written, [this explanation](https://files.catbox.moe/572nqk.jpg) was very necessary. Probably a lot less so these days [](#cantbehelped)
[You know what?](https://files.catbox.moe/w8d4r8.jpg) You shoulda just left him to bungle it. Then he'd get the blame when it all comes crashing down, instead of him throwing the problem at you to solve at the last minute. [](#annoyedkiki)
Ruby with the painting works well for vertical, or baby Aqua rotated.
And of course the bunny looks cool but horror bunny mask is a bit too basic.
For sure it won't be the last disaster with this show episode.
Especially with how animated the characters are in every scene, in most anime you wouldn't pay any mind when you don't see a character blink. But in this when you see the camera fixated on Ruby, unblinking, you can certainly feel the uneasiness of it. Very much looking forward to the upcoming arcs.
and the new OP and ED are great!
Abiko: I only have one request- scrap everything
I also realize Aqua doesn't have his star eyes anymore. That must means that Aqua is at a neutral state now but still able to continue garnering attention through his sheer tactical brain. Ichigo-san did mentioned that being dumb and stupid instead of pure and proper in front of camera works better which I cannot agree more.
Got this gut feeling that somehow all of them is gonna get exploited in the cosplay event
Oshi no Ko is a visual masterpiece.
Akane is coping so hard it hurts, even as a Kana fan. Girl, you need to have a little more self-respect than to tell yourself you're happy with the crumbs you're getting.
Ruby is going all in on her mission. And she's got Ai's instincts for charming her way up the ladder. Should be good to see how far she goes.
Oh, and we finally got to see the OP and it's a great one. Oshi No Ko never misses with those. The ED is good too.
Wait the manager is back i thought after he divorced the "mother" they got rid of him
Akane ['sukoshi mumumu'](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/639eb9a0e9cd.jpg) so cute! I can sense my blood sugar level increases. But ofc she will [kill Aqua](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/25432e073cb1.jpg) if he cheats on [her](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/7bb02ac51cdf.jpg) lmao.
Gotta say I surprise Yoshizumi not falling to depress or overstress himself with that kind of work environment. Instead, he's doing his job diligently. He even OT at home which Alina Clover will find this very displeasing lol. He's the very definition of a good boy since he never whine about this to anyone and even himself. Since he's the one who do everything, at this point just make him a director lol.
And I love how he worried about his lil sis future doing cosplay stream and [suggest her do vtubing](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/542589cc9683.jpg) instead. Well, that didn't stop her from posting [cosplay](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/befb9b9206ed.jpg) though ^(wow she stacks)
Ruby's journey really fun to watch. She keeps absorbing everything and [executing them](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/14c70da48e8b.jpg) perfectly ^(with those) [^(black stars)](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/aae8173444a7.jpg)
OP song is straight up banger. Caught my attention right away.
Animation for ONK has gone up another level. The dance between Aqua and Ruby is 🤌
Akane so she knows how Aqua feels about Kana...but she's fine since he's being a great boyfriend and wants to turn their relationship that started as a lie to become real. She won't forgive him if he cheats though. What happened with Memcho doesn't count right? Nothing happened, he just pushed her down and then got comforted.
Really feel bad for the AD guy dude is going through it literally doing every job.
We got new OP and ED as well this ep. I like them, especially the visuals. Probably going to go over them later. The songs I think might need to grow on me a little though. Still both are bangers. They feel much darker compared to previous seasons ngl.
Ok ngl literally just took me another listen or two. They're fire. Still not sure if I'll like them over the previous ones though. Visually definetly stunning.
I feel so bad for her..and of course Akane knows what Aqua is doing to Kana and did nothing about it cause she's getting what she wants..
I'm so mad..my Kana ship! 😭
Ruby just sets the forest on fire to see what runs out
I don’t have a suitably poetic metaphor to pair that with for Ruby. The one thing that comes to mind is a wrecking ball.
On the Aqua front, I see the love triangle is nowhere near done. Kana haunts the relationship Akane and Aqua are supposedly happily in. But it seems to be very much a side story, this seems very much Ruby's season so far.
We get the actual OP and ED and as usual, Oshi no Ko doesn't miss with those. Good songs and cool visuals.
I'm very interested to see how Ruby's investigation will go versus Aqua's. The third season is off to a good start.
My personal ranking would be:
- OP1 > OP3 > OP2
- ED1 > ED2 > ED3
I'm anime-only, but is the OP animation suggesting Akane will also eventually join B-Komachi 2.0?
This episode sure nailed the negative stereotype of assistant directors constantly being treated like shit by toxic directors.
Coupled that with Japan's already toxic work culture, and you get poor souls like Yoshizumi, where being a slave to the director's every whim is the only career path for him to become a director someday.
Ruby is quick to recognize her late mother's success owes largely to Ichigo's knowledge of the dark arts of manipulating human relationships in show business in order to maximize an artist's rapid rise to stardom.
For the sake of her revenge, she has become even more ruthless than Aqua in using everyone she could think of, from the hapless Yoshizumi, to even her friend Minami.
Since Aqua has worked in the Tokyo Blade stage play back in season 2, maybe Ruby could do Yoshizumi a favour by connecting him to Abiko-sensei via Aqua? That way, Yoshizumi will be even more indebted to Ruby, allowing her to become even more connected to the big-wigs in showbiz.
*...Just be yourself it'll be fine*
[](#urbansmile)
If she had asked more subtle questions (indirectly showing an understanding of the industry) he might have gotten suspicious of why she's asking about specific issues.