"Omae Gotoki ga Maou ni Kateru to Omouna" to Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou sareta node, Outo de Kimama ni Kurashitai • Roll Over And Die

"Omae Gotoki ga Maou ni Kateru to Omouna" to Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou sareta node, Outo de Kimama ni Kurashitai • Roll Over And Die - Episode 3 discussion

*"Omae Gotoki ga Maou ni Kateru to Omouna" to Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou sareta node, Outo de Kimama ni Kurashitai*, episode 3

Alternative names: *Do You Think Someone Like You Can Defeat the Demon King?, Roll Over and Die: I Will Fight for an Ordinary Life with My Love and Cursed Sword!*

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szalhi2026-01-22 17:15

Oh look, ["oppressive church."](https://i.imgur.com/CDSWTKD.jpeg) Quite a bit normal in anime. Of course, the rules won't stop people from doing good things, and [that's why we have Sara.](https://i.imgur.com/9yo6KVa.jpeg)

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-22 17:16

Sara’s a good kid. I hope she makes it through this bullshit with Dein. Her and Flum and Milkit gotta pay that dude a visit after. Have a nice long chat..

Shmappii2026-01-22 17:27

Damn, I had some nice stuff to say last week about the action directing making some good decisions, but that whole Spiral Ogre sequence was rough. I'm happy to keep enjoying the characters and story, though.

Aerodynamic412026-01-22 17:29

Wait, so back in her old party, *nobody* tried casting a healing spell on Flum which would have clued them in on how Reversal works?

Luck_Is_My_Talent2026-01-22 17:42

Only those who have light attribute can use healing magic.

Cyril: Hero.

Gahdio: Earth.

Eterna: Water.

Linus: Wind.

Maria: Light.

Jean: Nature (four elements which are fire, water, earth and wind).

Flum: Reversal.

In the party, only Maria, the saint from Origin Church can use healing magic.

Envelope_Torture2026-01-22 18:05

There's a scene where Maria is stopped from healing her because it'd be "a waste of mana". The rest of the episode pretty much tells you only certain people can even use healing magic.

KajarRanginLaya2026-01-22 18:46

This makes me question that Sara said Maria doted on her. So, seeing someone around the age of Sara suffering should really moved her heart. But a word from that bastard sage had more effect, bruh.

Also, it's kinda ironic tho. If Flume ever got healed by Maria, it's either she'll be healed to death or they'll get confused why Flum's suffering more and thought Flum's already a lost cause to an incurable deadly curse lmao.

OldInstruction53682026-01-22 19:37

This. Are we supposed to believe, that not once in their entire time fighting together on this most dangerous mission, did Maria try to heal Flum?

But at the same time, we are supposed to believe that only Jean was a bastard that wanted Flum gone?

These don't add up, as even just a single healing spell should have been enough for Flum to piece together "reversal." After being harmed by a healing spell, she may have asked someone to cast a hex or debuff on her next, just to see...

But then the plot couldn't happen.

Nachtwandler_FS2026-01-22 20:05

Maria is an odd case. She is not egoistic bastard like Jean, but she is a church fanatic, so a bit bent on on their mission and probably saw Flum as a hindrace.

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:41

She didn't seem to take much pleasure in not healing Maria. Might be she just doesn't have much of a spine.

Magnafeana2026-01-22 17:32

Headbanging Yuri Day 💃🏾🏳️‍🌈

Sara is a cutie. Oh she’s voiced by Machico? That’s Nene (*Project Sekai*)!

Oh Flum 😞

I love magic sigils.

I ship those demons. They give me bi panic.

I didn’t see the driver’s face so I know he suspicious as hell.

Alexa, play 🎵 Fuwa Fuwa Time by Ho-kago Tea Time🎵

ED TL credits, I can’t remember if they were there previously.

Another ☯️ title!

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Again, just sad all around with this sort of sub-genre. Everyone outside of the Fuckass™ have positive feelings for each other, but the Fuckass™ knows how to manipulate. Always beautiful when the Fuckass™ gets karma though.

TyraniTEMPESTar2026-01-22 17:37

That fireball casting purse snatcher didn't know "when you play with fire you're bound to get burned". Lol Flum snapped his arm like a twig.

We got some interesting information about the Demons.
That Neigass said the demon lord's orders were *"Don't kill any humans"* and *"be seeing you peace-destroying heroes"*.
And then Sara said towns have been disappearing but, *"Thankfully, there don't seem to be any deaths yet"*.

Makes me wonder if there's a bigger conspiracy going on here regarding the demons?
Maybe the humans started the fighting and the demons are just trying to take back what was once theirs?
Or maybe something with the Church and their One True Religion? Or maybe just that Jean character in the hero's party is up to no good to try and claim some glory for himself?

Interested to see if we get some more information and backstory on what's going on behind the scenes in the world. Maybe Flum's "reversal" is meant to right the wrongs going on.

Ill_Violinist15712026-01-22 17:50

I mean, it could be the whole how light and dark should always equalise each other in a world. Flum's reversal is meant to be the force that maintains the balance. Maybe due to the church's fanatics, who, due to their greed, resulted in the annihilation of a lot of people who were killed in the name of a one true god (the herb treatment being banned and everyone who performed getting killed seems to make quite a lot of evidence for that being the case).

Maybe "origin" herself, too, was fed up with this bullshit and wanted to have things done right for a change.

But i am just speculating atp.

PerfectBeige2026-01-22 17:56

The church is definitely evil what with their banning of alternatives to magic, leading to innocents dying for their monopoly. So it seems likely that the destruction of Sara's village was orchestrated by the church in order to crush a competing religion, and blamed on the demons.

The demon incursions might be in legitimate self-defense from church sponsored attacks, hence their instruction not to kill. In which case we can expect that Flum will be allying with the demons against the church at some point.

mekerpan2026-01-22 19:02

I agree this church is fundamentally evil. And the demons are probably more neutral than evil. Maybe Sister Maria's village was also destroyed due to machinations by the church?

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:31

They outright state that Sister Maria village had the same thing happen to it that Sara's did, hence why Sara was extra nice to her. So yeah...seems like they have been busy cleansing heretics for awhile.

mekerpan2026-01-22 21:42

But these two both *think* that demons destroyed their villages....

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 22:35

Well yes...both think that. Doesn't make it true...

kalirion2026-01-22 19:03

> And then Sara said towns have been disappearing but, "Thankfully, there don't seem to be any deaths yet".

Though that does mean the demons are out conquering human lands, even if bloodlessly.

> Makes me wonder if there's a bigger conspiracy going on here regarding the demons?

The conspiracy is probably the Church wiping out the towns of "heretics" like they probably did with the nun's and Maria's hometowns and blaming it on the demons. *Those* were not bloodless.

OldInstruction53682026-01-22 19:13

This. When Sara said her town followed a different faith, and that the church was given a monopoly on healing...

And yet the demons are pacificists?

Yeah, super-shady church. The brand doctors as heretics and towns that follow other faiths 'just so happen' to be taken out by 'demons' with their children 'taken in' by the One True Faith to be 'raised properly.'

It all must be connected.

mcfloydl2026-01-22 20:41

Also the blue mark on Sara's neck looking suspiciously like a slave tattoo....

Church is probably murdering the "heretic" towns, blaming it all in the demons, and then stealing their children to indoctrinate them into their holy war.

Krazee92026-01-23 02:55

The church being a bad guy in a fantasy anime? No. I'm shocked at the idea. Shocked, I say!

/s

goddessofthewinds2026-01-23 05:36

It's weird how it happened to 2 HEALERS and both of them got taken in by the Church. We don't know if Sara's town was wiped out completely, or I didn't hear that part, but we know Maria's town was wiped out.

But if demons don't kill anyone (they've yet to kill the heroes too) and demons only destroy towns, not humans, who killed them? I think the Church is not as good as we think and they only grab the holy magic holders to indoctrinate them.

Seems like Demons are the good guys and the Church is the bad guy, just like 80% of animes.

CommanderZx22026-01-22 20:43

Yeah that conspiracy was pretty easy to work out from that conversation. The church is killing towns of people who have different religions and forcefully converting the surviving children to their own religion.

The whole demons blatantly stating that they aren't allowed to kill humans made that way too obvious.

HornedTurtle12122026-01-22 23:14

And no one in the hero's party is questioning that?

CommanderZx22026-01-22 23:19

Based on this episode their healer is one of the brainwashed religious converts. I guess the rest never really thought anything of it, demons look different and so must be evil cause the church says so.

Narvalis2026-01-23 02:56

Well in the hero's party we have a religious fanatic, the evil sage that sold the MC into slavery, and a weak willed hero, so from what we know some of them might be all for being the bad guys and the others might just be too scared or just hoping they are in the right.

Nachtwandler_FS2026-01-22 20:02

We were also shown that healing magic indeed harms Flum due to her ability.

bobert12012026-01-23 00:59

That might recontextualize the reason why the hero party's healer refused to use her magic on her. Did she know?

darthvall2026-01-23 02:39

Ooh good catch. She seems good, so I was wondering why she agreed with the evil sage

Keated2026-01-23 03:27

And the motto she taught her protege was something like "If someone needs helping, you help them" so it seemed really hypocritical for her to agree with rat-faced-bastard-man about 'wasting mana' on her... but if she knows that her healing magic would likely kill Flum, then that 100% tracks.

But then why did no one bother to tell Flum that? Was it left up to RFBM or something, or maybe they just assumed she knew?

BosuW2026-01-22 20:24

I don't believe the demons have done nothing wrong, but the Church is definitely using the conflict to increase their power somehow.

skavinger58822026-01-22 21:30

The comments about the demons destroying settlements were all about fringe settlements. And Flum seemed unaware the demons were even attacking. That makes me wonder if human expansion is just encroaching on their land

Kaze_no_Senshi2026-01-23 17:49

nah the church is definitely up to some shady shit. Church started the heroes crusade, the heroes are the ones ruining the peace. Frontier towns that worship other faiths happen to be destroyed and immediately annexed by the church.

HornedTurtle12122026-01-22 23:18

We still have the mystery of these spiral monsters with Flum's mane in their stats. That can't be a coincidence.

Keated2026-01-23 03:30

At the end of the previous episode the chimera werewolf said something about Flum paying for her sins too, which is an oddly specific phrasing. Since it wasn't dead even after that, maybe it ended up infecting an ogre since it was definitely shown to be transmissable? Also interesting that Flum's ability doesn't seem to reverse it (maybe since they all spiral in one direction she might get to 'reverse' the spin direction or something?)

TheDubh2026-01-23 06:34

So with the other theories that the church is bad, didn’t they say the god it worships was the creator of everything? Which if it created the cursed weapons then Flum’s reversal of their abilities may be the sin. Granted that means ether the church is aware of her actual ability or the god is actually real.

A “reversed” spiral, and think they said the god was also a god of light, so reversed would be the black lines we see.

Or it generally is playing with reversals, the church is evil, the hero’s are killing pacifist demons, might could say ghouls in the first ep was a reversal of life.

machopsychologist2026-01-23 07:26

It's always the church. They're the default villain in every fantasy series.

JWeirdine2026-01-22 17:41

Cursed gauntlets out of nowhere and also suddenly rich. Terrible job on skipping things, since half of the fun of this kind of anime is watching MC getting stronger over time.

Vyse15192026-01-22 17:47

Flum took the cursed gauntlets off a corpse last episode and they likely got paid enough for the quest they completed to at least buy the essentials.

Sweet_Marzipan_21842026-01-22 18:07

they're not rich they just bought clothes, food and basic living supplies, and books for the purpose of teaching milkit to read since we found out she can't in the last episode. although they rushed past so fast and with so little animation you'd have to pause it to figure that out. and yeah the gauntlets were established last episode, they're also not really a meaningful powerup tbh, they exist mostly to to introduce the idea that she can find cursed equipment from fallen adventurers to get stronger ... which they also kind of glossed over ...............

uh basically don't worry she's not getting too powerful too quickly or anything but do worry because they have no money and are trying to fit too much story into too few episodes. >.<

ChoiceSupermarket2302026-01-22 17:44

I got kicked out of the hero party so I'm starting my own yuri party

I'm waiting for more, it's enjoyable so far to watch

The_Parsee_Man2026-01-22 19:27

I'm pretty sure that guy who bumped them during the wall slam was just hoping they'd kiss.

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:32

In that case...I hope they run into that succubus the hero's party came across...

TheRejectBin2026-01-22 17:47

Gods, I still believe they're trying here, but the budget is already measured in monopoly money and then the Ogre got caught by the Junji Ito curse for just being inspired by his works.

Stat screen wants Flum to pay for her sins, but the production commitee is barely paying the animators.

Shout-out to the use of narration, it's like they spin a wheel to decide whether to add a line that's necessary or a line that just says exactly what's on screen. What is the decision-making process here? Why is it being farmed out to an alien that hates narrative immersion?

Hitman71282026-01-22 17:54

Milkit’s new appearance is pretty cute, thanks Flum!

I like Sara, she’s adorable and dealt with those asshats at the beginning of the episode.

Dein’s goons interfere again at the caves. Agent 47 should add them to his list and make some ketchup.

Flum and Sara have to retreat from the ogre and are forced to jump into a hole. Cliffhanger, especially with a local saying earlier that adventurers who went to the cave never returned

Earlier-Today2026-01-23 02:09

Is that literal or figurative ketchup? It's so hard to guess which with 47.

PerfectBeige2026-01-22 17:57

"Oh that's all my ability does, just takes the world's most **dangerous objects** and turns them into **potential superweapons.**"

The_Parsee_Man2026-01-22 19:09

I still don't know why I was picked for the hero party.

Earlier-Today2026-01-23 01:58

That part still makes sense, as nobody else knew what her ability did either.

It does make me wonder - if healing magic harms her, does that mean she's immune (or gets healed by) damaging magic?

Luck_Is_My_Talent2026-01-23 03:21

The curse of her sword is basically damaging magic. When Flum gets healed, her body melts in the same way normal people melts when they use her sword.

Fire magic will damage her, I think the reason is because while the fire was made with magic, the fire in itself is a physical phenomona.

Reversal passively reverse the magical things like magic applied directly in her body and her stats.

The_Parsee_Man2026-01-23 03:54

She wasn't picked by a person though. She was picked through some divine ritual. So even if nobody knew what her ability did, the magic showed it was a powerful ability. Now that she knows what it does and why it's powerful, she shouldn't wonder why she got selected.

septesix2026-01-23 16:20

What I really liked was how even if nobody had a rational reason on why she was picked, it was very obvious that she had became the heart of the party that glue everyone ( except the “sage” ) together. Furthermore , her party mates actually all recognized this and wanted her to stay ( again except the “sage”). That’s quite a reversal from all the other banished-from-the-party stories.

Jealous_Land96142026-01-23 18:37

Maybe she would tank the debuffs from the Demon King, and turn into self-buffs? Assuming he has debuffs,, that is...

Daiwon2026-01-23 03:51

Tbh even with the melty sword she's not suddenly super OP. Especially with this weird spiral thing following her.

Sondaica2026-01-22 18:06

I love this show so much!

Clemastina2026-01-22 18:08

Flum trying not to lose a limb in an episode level: Impossible

But yeah, 100% that guild is behind the strange monsters, poor Sara seeing one of those for the first time.
Imagine you´re a priest and can´t heal your partner because you hurt her

Really wonder how they´re gonna get out of that mess huh.
^((also I wonder how many times Flum is gonna be a meat shield))

Sweet_Marzipan_21842026-01-22 18:13

regeneration powers are the worst powers anyone can have you lose SO MANY limbs. just nonstop limb-severing all the time.

pornomancer902026-01-23 01:39

That's why Wolverine got himself that adamantium skeleton.

Crono24012026-01-23 07:03

Don't think he had a choice in that.

Daiwon2026-01-23 03:53

The cost in new boots is going to be so high.

Darth_Annoying2026-01-24 08:10

maybe she shoudl switch to cheap sandals

JohnatanWills2026-01-22 20:02

idk the guild as a whole might be behind them but I don't think Dein's group itself is. They trapped them there sure but they're seem like small fry. Not enough to create monster with a fucked up stat-sheet. Although currently I'm more leaning towards the church since they seem to be leading the attack on the surprisingly non-violent demons.

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:34

The weird spiral beast thing I suspect might not be associated either with the church or with the guild dirtbags. Wouldn't surprise me if it's not the greater scope villain for the series.

legopoppetje3212026-01-22 22:28

It's oddly targeted towards Flum tho.
So whoever/whatever created those monsters really doesn't seem to like Flum, not sure why some greater scope villain would hate Flum so much (not that the other options do seem more likely).

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 22:37

Something something chosen one something something destined to bring balance...

Or maybe it's just ticked it's werewolf chimera got hosed...

bobert12012026-01-23 01:03

If that were the case, then you'd think it would've attacked the hero party at some point. I think it's either salty about the werewolf or that a member of the hero party is ignoring her "duty" to fight demons.

clone692026-01-23 00:30

Perhaps the hero party mage? Maybe not directly, but spawned from his hatred or something?

goddessofthewinds2026-01-23 05:46

This. They're certainly the small fries. They probably only knows something dangerous is in there and they wanted to block the exit, then GTFO before the monsters kill them. They were hired to kill them by Dein afterall.

That thing however rings my bells that say "Church is bad" after the mention that the Church is the one asking the heroes to attack the demons, and demons not killing humans most likely!? I feel like the Church might control the slums and stuff and is behind the weird monster, unless another party of bad guys appears. Scan didn't work on it and it seems to target Flum, so it's certainly related to the Goddess / Church in my opinion. Of course, maybe that info drop is irrelevant or false, but I'd trust my guts that say the Church isn't who they say, even more so with their stance against medicinal herbs.

diacewrb2026-01-22 18:12

There are so many modern elements in our magical European world.

The stores seemed way too modern with Japanese signs next to the goods inside, but with English writing with some backwards letters on the signs outside.

There are plushies and photos on the wall.

I did double-check when business cards were invented, they are lot older than I thought. They were invented in 15th century in China then the concept spread to Europe, originally for the aristocracy to announce visits, then merchants used them. You learn something new every day.

The church is corrupt by monopolising healthcare, originally I thought they banned herbal medication like groups in our world ban medicine.

Maybe Doux or the Demon Lord from Tis Time for "Torture," Princess is running the demon world, so no hurting humans. Wouldn't be surprised to learn if the church has framed them as the aggressors as part of their plot to control mankind along with them controlling access to healthcare.

DocMcCoy2026-01-22 20:23

Huh, so this wild obsession with business cards is not something the Asian countries got from the Western world, it's the other way round? I wouldn't have guessed

ALuizCosta2026-01-22 21:19

Remember that the Church worships the double helix of DNA. There are hints that this isn't actually a pseudo-medieval world, but like in a certain other yuri isekai, it's actually Earth in a very distant future.

TommaClock2026-01-23 02:47

Which other series are you talking about?

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:36

The modern elements are pretty typical of a lot of fantasy anime

Muffin-zetta2026-01-22 18:13

Oh cool this is getting dubbed too, probably going to watch both

hasanman62026-01-22 18:14

Im predicting that sara will be found out about getting this herb leaving her to be kicked out the church and join the gang

diacewrb2026-01-22 18:27

It will probably be way beyond this anime, but it would be great if she and Maria ended up being the Martin Luther of their world and form their own church branch in protest.

kalirion2026-01-22 19:06

"I will start my *own* Church, with macarons and yuri!"

Earlier-Today2026-01-23 02:02

Martin Luther didn't start a new church - his whole argument was that the Catholic church needed to be fixed. He explicitly didn't want to start a new church.

It was his brother who started the church after his death - so he couldn't object.

HolyDragSwd25002026-01-22 19:55

I got kicked out of the Church Party

CommanderZx22026-01-22 20:44

Seeing as the church are the ones that likely killed her family and forcefully converted her she probably should.

HornedTurtle12122026-01-22 23:25

If the implication that the church killed her home town is true I don't think they would just kick her out. Something something, make an example out of her.

NationalStrategy2026-01-22 18:31

Apologies in advance for the nitpick

I don't like Flum's shorts, every time I saw them, I kept noticing her open fly; it just looked like it was too open wide and low.

liquidpele2026-01-22 18:40

~~Ugh, drives me nuts when an anime gives weak bad guys some kind of ridiculous OP power because they failed to limit the MC's growth enough early on. Like, come one, she has a legendary weapon and some dipshit thug has a way to turn a monster into an invincible robot? ffs.~~

Sweet_Marzipan_21842026-01-22 18:58

i don't know if you were paying attention but last episode she said with the legendary sword she's on par with like a C rank adventurer i think? there's like, several letters above C, so presumably she's still only average strength.

also i get the feeling the thug isn't responsible for the monster because when she scanned it it said like, 'YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR SINS FLUM APRICOT' and that seems slightly above his pay grade don't u think.

The_Parsee_Man2026-01-22 19:13

I just want to know how the thugs blew up the exit but she could still see them standing in front of it. How did they get out?

JohnatanWills2026-01-22 19:57

although I assume she's looking at it only in terms of stats. Being able to heal from almost any non-lethal injury probably bumps her up a rank or two

kalirion2026-01-22 19:08

> Like, come one, she has a legendary weapon and some dipshit thug has a way to turn a monster into an invincible robot? ffs.

The thug didn't do that, ffs. It was whatever's behind the weird chimeras and had a grudge against her after the werewolf incident. Rewatch the end of that ep.

liquidpele2026-01-22 19:23

Ahhhhh, I didn't connect that, I retract my statement.

AceSoldia2026-01-22 18:49

Much better pacing and the narrator was far more bearable giving information that wasn't obvious like the church knight light lasso rope thing.

Did we know healing didn't work on Flem? I don't remember that

I've seen the church do things in other anime about never to abolish the prior...healing method for their own...that's wild.

TepidLemming2026-01-22 19:30

We hadn't been told healing doesn't work. But we could have inferred it from the way the sword works on her

NationalStrategy2026-01-22 18:53

**Maria**: Demons ought to be exterminated. Every single one of them.

Well now we know Maria's vibe. At least we know that she'll get along with Frieren.

kalirion2026-01-22 19:01

How did she know her gauntlets could deflect that "fireball"?

"It's my job as a nun to take out the bad guys."

Why did she refuse the reward from the shopkeeper?

The Church imposing a blanket ban on medicine. I'd say it was too stupid to be believable if I wasn't living in the 2020s.

"You look sad. I knew someone who looked sad once, and they needed herbs. That means you need herbs. Amirite?"

Why the hell did the Hero Party Priestess take orders from their Asshole Mage? Though just as well that she did, or her "healing" could've killed MC.

Oh, so Demons are the good guys (thanks to their probably isekai'd demon lord) and humans, especially the Hero's Party, are the bad guys for attacking them. And Priestess Maria is just a hate-filled bigot. 99% that both the loli nun's and Maria's hometowns were destroyed by the Church and blamed on the demons.

I'm glad MC didn't trust the loli nun enough to tell her the actual effects of her Reversal perk.

I'd expected the goons to take Bandages hostage as per the usual trope, so it's almost refreshing that they went after MC more directly than that.

"The Ogre, shown on the screen with a spiral instead of a face, had a spiral instead of a face." Why thank you, Narrator, I wouldn't have known otherwise.

LOL at the System/GM calling out MC with a custom monster character sheet.

BlackBeltPanda2026-01-22 19:06

Also, Flum had her slave crest in the flashback where Maria was told not to heal her.

Oh, and healing magic hurts her but attack magic... also hurts her. Reversal seems a bit arbitrary.

kalirion2026-01-22 19:11

When was she hurt by attack magic? I don't think the monster cast any spells, and the Hero Party mage had only used a spell to restrain her, not deal damage.

Sweet_Marzipan_21842026-01-22 19:22

i think it's cause attack magic isn't like, directly attacking the body in this but rather conjuring physical things like fireballs that then cause what is basically physical damage.

myrlin772026-01-22 21:50

She doesn't know how to use her skill. I am guessing a direct buff/curse has the opposite effect but "repelling" attacks or spells requires her to actively use it.

I mean, cmon, it's called reversal. Clearly it will be an ability that allows her to reflect/refract once she knows how to use it. Seems like they offset the OP by making the inverse is also true. So like healing/buffs/etc probably can hurt her.

I know I've seen this type of magic before, it just wasn't specific to JUST reverses...

gnome-cop2026-01-22 19:02

This new Sara kid is pretty enthusiastic. Very cute.

I’ve said it before, the world is doomed if these are the heroes tasked with saving it.

The behavior of the demons doesn’t quite seem to line up with the typical descriptions of demons as villains. But they said they were under orders to not kill anyone so maybe that’s why no one has died out in the villages they’re taking over.

“Yes, I’ll take corrupt church for 25 on fantasy tropes, please.” Really, forbidding herb-based healthcare to increase your power? How charming.

Anyway, we’re off to find the illegal flower that could get all of them executed.

Oh, this is that ogre. I saw it in an out of context image for it once so I’ve been waiting for it to show up. Honestly a lot creepier than I was expecting, not so much because of visuals but because of the corruption of the scan. Thank you for using stat screen infodumping for something actually useful for once.

The_Parsee_Man2026-01-22 19:12

> The behavior of the demons doesn’t quite seem to line up with the typical descriptions of demons as villains.

They're one step from torturing people with buttered toast.

darthvall2026-01-23 02:44

Junji Ito Ogre

hbmonk2026-01-22 19:07

~~Tokai Teio~~ cute nun Sara is here to join the party!

What is Jean even bringing to the hero party? His sole role seems to be "being an asshole" so far.

What's this about the demon king saying not to kill humans? Are the humans the baddies? Or just the Origin church? (wow evil church in an anime, who'd have thought)

The spiral ogre's stat sheet being all messed up was cool. It would be pretty spooky for that to happen in a game.

The animation in the battle wasn't great, but [Sara carrying away Flum was cute.](https://imgur.com/a/mAj1Chb)

NationalStrategy2026-01-22 19:10

**Humans** : Are we the baddies?

Krazee92026-01-23 02:57

> Tokai Teio

I knew she sounded like an uma, I just couldn't pinpoint which.

NationalStrategy2026-01-22 19:08

I would hate to be in the same party as Jean, he keeps bitching at everyone and ruining morale

AvatarTuner2026-01-22 21:48

Yeah, I would've opened a petition to kick him and get the "useless cook" back instead. But his sage class is probably too good so they can't get rid of him just for his bitching...

NationalStrategy2026-01-22 22:04

Can we at least tell him to STFU?

HornedTurtle12122026-01-22 23:33

This is how you get the healer to refuse to heal you, the tank to stop guarding you, and the wizard to not worry too much about if you are in fireball range, lol.

MrsLucienLachance2026-01-22 23:26

It's just really important to me that he get thoroughly stabbed at some point.

Andt-942026-01-22 19:20

If the douche sage had let Maria heal Flum they would have realized how her ability worked.

AvatarTuner2026-01-22 21:46

I think they would've needed more to work it out, like her accidentally picking up a cursed item. The douche sage would've just hated on her even more when healing magic wouldn't work on her on top of her being "useless".

darthvall2026-01-23 02:43

Someone pointed out, Maria might have known it would hurt her, hence why she's not healing her.

I mean, according to the little priestess, Maria seemed to be a very good person. It's weird why she would agree with the evil Sage just for conserving mana.

i_reddit_too_mcuh2026-01-23 11:37

That doesn't sound like knowledge to keep to herself though. I would think she would have put two and two together and then shared it with the whole party.

Falsus2026-01-23 05:36

She might have died on the spot though. She wasn't exactly sturdy and even Maria's weakest healing spells might have healed healed Flum's whole ''hp'' bar in one go.

Andt-942026-01-23 07:50

Ok now that I think about it that sounds awful.

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-22 19:28

Flum and Milkit meet with another cute girl while apprehending some crooked adventurers, this one a priestess. We get some background info on the other heroes from Flum's old party, and it really seems clear only one of them was a bastard.

Speaking of bastards, the corrupt boss of the crooks Flum and Sara caught send more thugs after them. But before that confrontation happens, there is another weird monster similar to the chimera from earlier, but the episode ends before the fight truly gets going.

I felt somehow this episode looked better than the previous ones, and I am lik8ng that Flum is finding her own footing now as an independent hero. If Sara joins them, it will already be a party. The interactions between Flum and Milkit are sweet,though the latter is obviously deeply traumatized from her past and has extremely low feeling of self worth.

AlexxxandreS2026-01-22 19:51

I didn't understand, so those two lackeys just show up and do nothing...

Was it them letting the weird ogre loose? Or was that a coincidence?

Because would feel kinda weird for that Dein and his friends to have enough power to even control a monster like that

Sweet_Marzipan_21842026-01-22 23:09

they blocked a cave entrance which prevented our heros from going back the way they came v.v very poor visual communication in several parts of this episode, i know they have very little budget but ...

Nachtwandler_FS2026-01-22 20:05

Oh yeah, it's Sara and Neigress, really love this couple of characters.

Zeikos2026-01-22 20:18

> Comes from a village that worships another god

> Mysteriously the village got destroyed 8 years ago

I guess that the church desire for monopoly has nothing to do with it and that demons are totally culpable.
Demons that don't kill anybody, I am shocked that it's the case because I am sure "demons" would.

BosuW2026-01-22 20:20

Okay so, depending on how herbal medicine interacts in this setting, it is possible that, unlike what I theorized, mustardo toxin may have nothing to do with sulfur mustard (mustard gas). In general, blistering agents (group of chemical weapons to which sulfur mustard belongs) don't have antidotes. Instead, treatment consists of managing the injuries and wait for the body to purge the toxin and heal naturally.

Therefore it is curious that healing magic apparently can't heal mustardo toxin. If it was like sulfur mustard, it should've produced only chemical burns and blisters, which should be no different to healing magic from any other injury. I wonder what specifically differentiates what healing magic can heal and what needs medicinal herbs?

DocMcCoy2026-01-22 20:26

Milkit is such a cinnamon roll, she needs to be protected at all costs

fuzzynyanko2026-01-22 20:41

Welp, looks like Sara knows that she's Flum Apricot, though I think "I don't want to die" took priority over being shocked that Flum was one of the heroes, or realized what her last name was. I'm surprised that Flum didn't ask Sara about possibly getting healed

SopmodTew2026-01-22 20:48

The ogre watched Uzumaki

ALuizCosta2026-01-22 21:02

As a Brazilian, I found it curious how much emphasis Milkit putting on shoes at the beginning of the episode got. In Brazil, during the slavery era, slaves were forbidden from wearing shoes; it was something that set them apart in cities. Even the best-dressed slaves, with jackets and dress shirts, are seen barefoot in photographs from that time. When they gained freedom, the first thing they wanted was to buy shoes, if they could. I don’t know if this custom existed in other countries, and it seems unlikely that Japanese people would know about it, but I was intrigued.

rv57422026-01-23 04:24

I believe there's a fairly large Japanese community in Brazil, so maybe the author had friends or family over there and got the idea from them.

avboden2026-01-22 21:29

"This is my Sara. I've only had her for one episode but if anything happens to her I will kill everyone in this room and then myself"

Obaruler2026-01-22 21:43

OK, we added a Loli nun to the yuri party ... now we're cooking.

mmcjawa_reborn2026-01-22 21:53

It's Grimdark yuri time!

Anyway, this episode did a lot of heavy lifting lore wise. It's kind of a neat idea that the Church banned non-magical healing...I'm not sure I have seen that idea before but it makes sense that priests who could do healing (and don't have a god yelling at them otherwise) would do something like that if they came into power. They also seem to destroying communities of nonbelievers, then blaming it on the pacifist demons. Even though the church is definitely being portrayed as villainous, at least Sara doesn't seem to be. Although Maria might have drunk the kool-aid.

The demons were remarkably light-hearted for a show that leans towards grim, what with demon dude just wanting a good fight...and dommy mommy succubus telling folks they don't kill humans. Meanwhile Sage continues to be an asshat. At the rate he is going he is going to be getting shanked by one of his team-mates. Wonder if he will now try to sell his other team-mate who now can't access powers due to guilt. Although I guess she is protected for now given the whole point of selling our MC was to get in her pants.

Looks like Dein is a known problem, so you kind of have to wonder what he has to keep from being out of prison. He's going to be running out of minions soon at this rate, since I assume he is going to lose two more next episode.

Spiral monster thing is one of the more intimidating villains I've seen in a anime like this...wonder what its deal is. I don't think its affiliated with the church.

The unnecessary exposition continues to be the most annoying part of the show. You don't need a voice over to tell me that a character is smiling at someone else...

charredchord2026-01-23 00:09

Thank you stats screen, I never would have guessed that those were sandwiches.

XannHolz2026-01-23 02:08

Since Scan is the first magic Flum has ever been able to cast, I wonder if she's now just overcompensating for the years of no magic use by casting scan on **everything she sees**.

TellowKrinkle2026-01-23 07:08

She's got to check the nutrition information of all the food she eats. ~~What, you mean it's not normal to look at the back of your food packaging while eating because you have nothing to better to do?~~

Soup: 15g fat, 682mg sodium, 625mg potassium

Sandwiches: 34g fat, 795mg sodium, 236mg potassium

AJ_ninja2026-01-23 01:14

Is this worth the watch?

SYZekrom2026-01-23 01:17

Oh that's interesting, there seems to be two problematic elements on the hero's party. We have the asshole who pisses everyone off and sold the glue of the team off to slavery, and we have the church lady who seems to hate demons and the humans seem to have been the ones who started the conflict, probably unknown to the rest of the team.

"Our town used to worship a different god than my current church. My town got wiped out by demons, but I was 2 when it happened I don't remember it. Also Maria always dotes on me." Well that's an obvious 'church wiped out their town and maria raised her into the church's religion and to hate demons' if I ever heard it

Negative-Skirt-88472026-01-23 01:23

Hmm maybe Sara's village was really attacked by the Church itself? I mean, people in the village followed another religion.

throwawayurwaste2026-01-23 01:28

Eh, there's enough great anime this season for me to drop this. Okay premise but animation was awful throughout this episode. Several reused frames in the "chase" PowerPoint with completely incomprehensible movements. Like how she knocked the fire ball down and to her left but it got deflected up or how she jumped up and left off a building but landed down and left.

KyloTennant2026-01-23 04:19

I love how there is just some eldritch horror that is chasing Flum around now lol

YdenMkII2026-01-23 17:07

So this episode shows healing spells do indeed get reversed which probably means she'll heal from some damaging spells. I guess the rotation thingy when she was fighting the wolf was one of those edge cases where reversal wouldn't change the end effect. I recall someone joking that reversal just made it rotate her body in the opposite direction. I'm going to guess that her ability also reverses her natural stat gains from levels on top of equipment but stats in this world can't go below zero which is why her stat screen showed all 0s when she first joined the party.