Champignon no Majo • Champignon Witch - Episode 4 discussion

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Today, Crunchyroll is really saying "episode titles? what's that? episode summaries? they're the same as show summaries, no?", yeah?

The Holy Grail of Eris newest episode is also affected

If Luna could escape her fate, it’s totally possible for the kid to as well. He’s got 3 years to prove himself and at least 4 witches who would happily end him at a moment’s notice. Let’s see if he can escape being a cursed youngling or whatever.

I’m also keen to see Luna and the kid’s life together. Big changes are coming for her. Things are gonna be pretty lively.

…are the subs delayed???

I love grilled mushroom, but not like this.

Oh this bell/bowls sound like the Legend of Korra.

The cat witch 🥺 May she rest in peace 🕊️

This witch council is deeply unserious 😭

Congratulations, Claude, you’re an uncle now with Luna being an auntie.

The ED credits inform me why some of the dialogue subs were delayed and why the episode title look how it did.

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I am once more asking for a collab between Tamon’s B-side and Champignon Witch because of the mushrooms 🍄 🍄‍🟫

Flame bro needs to chill. Not wanting to honor a dead comrade’s voice is over the line. *Chill.*

Luna is such an impressive witch. Imagine how many lives she could save by manifesting diseases as mushrooms.

Just remember Granddaddy Mushroom, he feels like you could have incredible conversations with him and he’d never judged you. He is my third favorite mushroom 🍄‍🟫

Claude is my fourth favorite crow 🐦‍⬛

[I'm so happy to see that Luna has her own mask](https://i.imgur.com/BO16Rbz.jpeg) <3

Considering the episode title for next week, it looks like we're gonna learn more about the Cat Witch. I am not prepared for the sadness knowing that she's already dead T_T

It feels like I missed a whole episode with that Cat Witch flashback...

Knowing that her friend the Cat Witch got killed in the Witch Hunts made me scared for Luna. She seemed rather nice and harmless, so I wonder why she was killed. This is obviously one of those seemingly cute looking shows that can get quite dark out of nowhere.

The Black Witches do not seem to be evil, so I also wonder what is the cause of their conflict with the White Mages. Well, apart from the Fire Witch being kind of an asshole, of course. But at least the rest of them was more reasonable and decided to give a chance to Luna.

Luna has adopted a ~~son~~ apprentice.

Luna has so much empathy in her heart. I guess considering what she went through, it makes sense she'd want to take this kid in despite what he could possibly do to the world.

But this can be a very cruel and unforgiving world.

What does it mean to be a Black Magician? Having the ability to manage, eradicate, or control poison...which makes someone like Luna, whose very body is so filled with poison that she was able to teach herself how to manage and control while training to be a mage, all the more special. And what saved her from being The End of All Things. She even got a big mushroom mask out of it.

But what about this boy? Is there a chance Luna could do with him what she did for herself and teach him to be a mage and save him from his fate, the very same fate she saved herself from? Will the Black Mage council even let her?

Turns out mushrooms are surprisingly useful for avoiding fire dragons.

Nice way to break the tension by making a murder mushroom grow out of Fire Mage's head, Luna! And then cooler heads prevail as the Bird Mage takes over the conversation and believes they should give Luna a chance rather than immediately write the boy off to die. I mean, it's only fair, right? So then the mages take it to a vote.

So the Wind Mage...is kind of lazy and would rather sleep in bed then attend council meetings. The Fiore mage only cares about getting paid. The Eastern Witch...no one is even sure if she can even understand them. In fact she doesn't even vote, just plays cat cradle. Did she have any idea what was going on here?

But the real tiebreaker vote comes from none other than the deceased Cat Witch...the spirit of Dorothy (Ai Kakuma?) who was basically Luna's tsundere bestie who died in the Witch Hunts. But she came through for Luna even after death, believing in her and managing to sway all the other mages to her side.

Nothing says nobody cares about the Flame Mage's opinion than just using his flames to cook food.

And thus, was it decreed that Luna would have three years to whip this boy into a mage. Three years where he'll be tested by each of the council, and where most of the council will be looking for any excuse to kill him. No pressure.

Of course Claude will also be there, even if he has to deal with Luna who passes out after everybody leaves. But now the story of Luna and this boy has truly begun.

A bit too much exposition in this episode for my liking. Hopefully that was it and next weeks episode will focus on the characters again.

The moment the other mages just started grilling potatoes and cheese with the flame of the Flame mage had me rolling. They don't take his anger seriously at all. Though I guess this was kind of Luna's fault with the wrath mushroom growing on him.

More people need to watch this

It deserves so much more attention than it gets

The way we get both witch playing with string randomly and then a casual mention of a witch hunt at the same time is funny and scary. The other witches using his fire as a way to heat up food had me laughing

I can't believe we were deprived of Cat Witch's existence. Return the Cat Witch, cowards. I'm also curious how Cat Witch gets executed instead of witches with dangerously sounding titles.

bro i want more cat witch ..i hope we get some flashbacks seeing how much she meant to Luna ..and the flame dude can kick rocks

[I just love the scene of them casually taking out potatoes and cheese ](https://ibb.co/BVmYH3TW)

The title for next episode makes me think we'll be getting to see more of Luna and the Cat Witch's relationship?

The minutes for that meeting would definitely be an interesting read:

>**Vote regarding the matter of the cursed Youngling:**

>Nine Council members present

>Four votes in favor

>Four votes against

>One abstain

>One absentee vote against (invalidated)

>One deceased vote (allowed in lieu of last requiem)

I have to wonder how often meetings are interrupted by the spirits of dead council members. More importantly, are there rules in the council's parlimentary procedures to account for something like that?

What a kind witch Luna is 🥹

Loving this series but I truly think all of this exposition and setting the whole “raise this kid to be a magician or he dead” scenario could have been an episode as opposed to two.

Wait, that victim was the witch hunt in episode 1 that the bookstore owner wouldn't tell Luna the identity of because it was someone Luna knew, was that foreshadowing for the Cat Witch?

Feels like the plot ground to a halt these last 2 episodes.

Damn, for are menacing as they are they're also so unserious, what, my feelings were hurt last week but like things are all okie dokie now


Anyways, I guess it's a fair deal, and I have high hopes that Luna will be a good mentor. I like that Claude's a bit more understanding too. I'm dying to meet the wind witch. The cat witch was too cute, it's a shame Luna lost her bestie, I'm sure next week we'll learn more about her.

Nah bruh, they killed the Cat witch, if she doesn't come back alive through the power of "cats have nine lives" I'm team End of All Things, the folks of this world don't deserve nice things if that's what they do to Cat witch.

I've seen enough child rearing stories take a bad turn that I am very concerned this could end up with the kid being Luna's love interest. Particularly because the first 2 episodes made a point to be about her missing out on romance. Fingers crossed that wont happen.

That edit shortly after the Cat Witch's spirit disappeared with the Crystal witch talking was super weird at 17:14. Sudden slight camera change despite focused on a single character.

This episode was a lot slower with less happening than the previous three, what we got however was still interesting. It also didn't help that visually this episode was a lot more bland than the previous ones with very little going on and not a lot being animated.

That being said I still adore this show and all the characters introduced so far and it feels like we've only scratched the surface. We haven't even been really introduced to the cursed child yet. I hope we'll finally get to see him wake up next episode and learn more about him. Also after this episode I really wanna know more about Luna and her relationship with the cat magician and how her death impacted her, since they did seem very close in this flashback.

On another note, I'm really glad this anime introduced me to ロス, who sang this amazing OP. I've been listening to her songs quite a lot now since the first episode aired and they're all great!

My god. Cat witch with a great design and an even greater hat design who was Luna's friend, and she's already dead? How dare they.

I did like that Luna had a giant comical mushroom mask in that one flashback to go along with all the other dark magician comical masks.

okay I'm out, I had high hopes for this show but they literally spent an episode and a half in a boring meeting with characters we don't care about while luna is sitting on the floor looking mildly shocked. nothing interesting was said, no direction other then cutting to the person currently talking (sometimes from the person currently talking too like the jarring cut at 17:18), just nothing to like at all.

It's so good

The cheese 😂

But cat Wich though 😥 we like missed a whole ass arc right there.

This episode felt like it could of been done in 5 mins. It felt so short despite being 20 mins long

Honestly the part I don't get is the fact that they spared her. Like 'Oh yea there are people born destined to bring calamity and we kill them before they do that, but this girl was like. Really strong. Not in a 'we can't hurt her' way just like. She was really useful to us b/c she was really strong so like. We just said yolo lmao'???

These poison magicians are really something huh. One guy just decides 'ok you know what I am just going to kill both of them' and they all just stand and stare like 'ok' and then she survives and they're like 'ok' and then they bring her back and they're just like 'lol let's talk more instead of being rash ig'.

I mean, if you have a tie 4-4 with an abstain, you have two arguments in favor of Luna's side, the fact that she is also a council member in the first place, right? So that's another person on the council for the idea. And like they mentioned, nullifying wind's vote since the idea that fire dude speaks for him has clearly never been a thing they've ever done before considering he just newly brought it up.

Ok I thought water dude might just randomly decide to show up for once on a whim, not that 'oh yea there was a councilmember like a sister to Luna that died here's her ghost' lol ok.

Huh

Why did the scene suddenly get redrawn in the middle of that crystal witch talking

So much heart in this episode. And whimsy. Loved the way drama and humor was played and intertwined.

What is this show? Is it good?

Wonder if votes from the departed are a common occurrence in their meetings. That aside, it's a shame that's all we're getting from the Cat Witch since how can I not want to see more of someone titled the Cat Witch?

They really had Toriumi Kousuke voice the tori no mahoutsukai, lol. (He has bird in his name, and he's sometimes called Tori-san)

This episode was a bit of a drag unfortunately, especially after the last one already spent a considerable amount of time on that meeting. I don't mind a slower pace but it felt like they were just repeating the same thing over and over again for most of the episode. It's probably a quirk of the witches to handle matters like that, but it wasn't enjoyable to watch in this format.

I really enjoyed the first two episodes and hope the next one will be similar to those again. Judging from the title we may get a flashback to the cat witch.

pleaseee do yall know which song is it at the end 21:45 minutes ??

Ok, I think we've now started the main overarching plot of the series, Lu a taking the boy as an apprentice to sve him from becoming "The End". Luna might be one of the youngest sensei we've seen in a fantasy series, but the boy couldn't ask for a sweeter person for a master. And the little adorable familiars will provide companionship as well. Not a bad turn of events at a face value, though I'm sure there will be complications, plots, and dangerous events of all kinds. Add to that the fact that he seems to be a white magician instead of black, so there might ne some complications from that as well.

I feel sad that the Cat Witch was such a friend for Luna and was killed in witch hunts... but at least she saved the vote. Even over the assholish Fire Wizard's whining. That one is a potential threat for the future, though you could argue his extremism comes from good intentions.

I hope we see more of the Cat Witch, if only in flashbacks. This was a sweet episode.

"Black magicians are force to save the world from all this bad shit." Does this mean that White magicians WANT the world to be destroyed by all that bad shit, considering that they work to kill off the Black magicians?

"We should allow her to speak her peace" - after they stood by and watched the dude literally try to burn MC alive minutes earlier.

Cat Witch Ghost would've been more impactful if there had been at least one episode with her alive instead of relying on flashbacks to events never shown.

I wonder if the Master Mushroom who took on the End of the World's poison is the End of the World kid due to some time travel shenanigans.

Anyway, I'll stop here with this show, as I'm just not finding it interesting/entertaining enough, and Thursdays are just too full this season.

Man, knowing that her closest witch friend, the one she thought of as her sister and who appears to have been her close mentor on the counsel (along with the water witch presumably) died to the witch hunts it makes Crow's threat of them in the first episode even more rude.

What a jerk.

The OST and art is sooo good. Storywise, it slowed down quite a lot this episode. However, I am hopeful that it will pick back up again.

Very important poll: [https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3me1NyA](https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3me1NyA)

So what are the odds that the Flame Magician will at some point make a surprise visit to give the boy a ridiculously difficult test to pass and threaten to kill him if he can't overcome it?

I wonder why Luna isn't considered a full-fledged Black Witch and what's keeping her from becoming one?

I imagine the cursed youngling boy will also be impervious to poison and be able to safely touch Luna. I wonder how their relationship will develop before inevitable tragedy strikes.

I can still see some of the stuff that i liked about this show here, but that was an insane level of bathos, it was funny sometimes but way to undermine your own plot.
I'm not offended enough to stop, but that and the pacing was a very questionable decision for what was a very competent show in the first 2 eps.