Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

Man the Hero of the South has such a gigachad mustache.

He went out like an absolute badass even knowing full well he wasn’t going to the guy to take the Demon King down. Even though he had future sight, his life reminded me of the quote “**A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit**”

Every time we get to see Frieren & Co interact with a Demon it’s very off putting how quickly and easy the Demons lie and feel like *different*.

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Yes, viewers, the Hero of the South really is [that guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0qiZHV4E3U). He is him. The friggin’ GOAT. And by god he sounds good. Hopefully the dub does, too.

Frieren met previous Hero( Minami no Yuusha)

He predicted his death and Frieren meeting and journeying with Himmeli 😭

That magnificent mustache truly signify the strength of the strongest hero.


His story is truly touching, he saw his own fate in the future, yet he still embraced it, for he has hope in the heroes of the future generations to bring peace to the world. He paved the way for the hero's party to take down the demon king, so he deserves to be more widely recognized than this lonely statue imo. Similarly, in real life, there has been so many breakthrough that advanced civillization like the discovery of fire creation. We may never know their identity but we owe the progress of current society to them.


UGHHH why can't i think of this in my essay??? I guess the flow of passion doesn't come as you want it to.

The Hero of the South being the chaddest of them all he predicted his own death.

With his gift being able to see the future, I can't help but see that his battle with Schlacht would have been legendary. I wanted to see it in a way.

Really interesting implications about demons not needing to eat humans for sustenance. Makes you wonder about why they still do anyway (vestigial trait from having evolved from monsters?), and how their physiology works in the first place since we haven't gotten much lore about demons yet other than the Aura arc. Do demons even need sustenance if they are mana creatures?

Hero of south is the GOAT on par with HIMmel

The Hero of the South sprinted so Himmel's party could leisurely stroll towards the Demon King's castle, let's never forget that guys and forever appreciate this hero.

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I already like the Hero of the South and the Animation is like always great.

Frieren doing a speedrun for once, just to avoid a sidequest from the
Dach. Luckily that sidequest was an interesting one.

back scratching spell for the granny

HERO OF THE SOUTH, ULTIMATE WINGMAN

that fight scene against the sword demon looked so good

bro still fought knowing he will die

From another comment back then

> Why yes i did attack the seven sages of destruction knowing that i will die, why do you ask?

It's Peak. One of my favourite episodes of the series so far.

Imagine hearing an 8 vs 1 fight ended with five casualties.

I really like the nameless Hero of the South. A lesser man with his gift would’ve seen his fate and ran. But not this dude. Bro straight John Wick’d his way through the Demon Lord’s forces in the north and took down 3 of the Sages. Freakin legend.

Looks like smoked demon’s on the menu tonight lol. That sword demon messed with the wrong party. Can’t wait for Frieren to come by in a few more decades to retrieve that sword again lol.

the GOAT is here

Man, so many unsung heroes in the war.


I guess at least his own people still remembers him.

Himmel standing at the cliff holding up the sword, overlooking the mountains after defeating the sword demon pretending to be a priest… what a grand moment

Frieren's reward was a grimoire with a spell that turns a red apple into a (Mrs.) Green Apple.

Man, I love the show's acknowledgement that there would have been other heroes than just Himmel during that time.

Himmel may have done the big job of slaying the Demon King, along with many smaller jobs that people remember to this day, but there were others putting up their own great acts of heroism too!

And though they'll be forgotten by the world at large, their impact will be remembered by some who they saved. Much like how many remember Himmel for helping them out with smaller things more than they do his heroics, there are some villages and towns that will remember the Hero of the South for saving everyone they love more than they will Himmel.

Had a feeling the priest's a demon when she kept covering her head and spoke with a dry tone, and that turned out to indeed be the case. A demon disguising themselves as human was new, but thankfully it's a rudimentary disguise. Imagine if they had learnt a spell to hide their horns. Humanity would be in deep trouble.

Respect to the Hero of the South. Knew he's about to meet his end yet kept moving on forward. The reason being his knowledge of the ultimate victory of humans despite not living to witness the moment. He might not be the one to deliver the finishing blow to the demons but at least the town had acknowledged his accomplishments.

That was unmistakably the sort of grimoire authored by a pâtisserie witch, intended for the dire hour when one craves a green apple tart and one’s hopeless apprentice returns instead with Red Deliciouses. A tragedy, meticulously documented in ink and spite.

Ladies and gentlemen, before there was HIMmel the Hero, there was the GOAT of the South. From the drip, to the moustache, to soloing the Seven Sages of Destruction and taking out three of them before dying, he really is the strongest of all mankind.

But more importantly, Frieren has finally gotten the most important spell in the setting: the spell to turn red apples green.

I was expecting the sword demon to be weak, but they put up a bit of a fight.

It would be interesting to see a prequel about the Hero of the South and Schlacht and the kind of next level strategies they use to outsmart each other considering they both can see the future.

what a great episode, and great logic to why they need to protect the sword because to demons, getting street cred is so important that once they get the bigass sword they need to strut it

Frieren use orbital strike just because the demon tried to kill Fern when she was praying, don't mess with the grandma.

Goat of the South dropped spoilers to Frieren and went out fighting the demon sages solo, what a chad.

Grimoire to turn a red apple into a green apple has to be a cheeky reference to the OP lol.

The OP and ED are so beautiful, I can't get enough of it.

Is there any job too mundane for Frieren and her party? Not when there's a spell on the line! They'll never have to worry about itchy backs again.

Himmel was THE Hero, but he wasn't the only one...like the Hero of the South (Kazuhiko Inoue!), who got his own statue. And he truly deserved the title of Hero and his title of Humanity's Strongest. Dude soloed the entire Seven Sages of Destruction TOGETHER to try to kill him, and in the process managed to mutually kill Schlacht the Omniscient. No more future sight for the Demon King! And he killed THREE of the Seven Sages!

In fact the Hero of the South had even met and tried to recruit Frieren, but as it so happens he was probably the only one who could kill Schlacht because he too could see the future. Even if it meant he knew he was inevitably going to die in battle and Himmel would be the one to recruit Frieren, change her life, and defeat the Demon King...but Himmel never could have done it without Schlacht paving the way.

The only thing he was wrong about? Being forgotten, because his heroic exploits are still remembered and cherished. He's even got an epic puppet show going on about it!

(Just maybe don't think about how the demons probably cannibalized him...)

You know something is wrong when Frieren is trying to speedrun through a town and Fern has her suspicious eyes on. In fact she was trying to avoid getting recruited into hunting down a sword by Graf Dach once again, though at least this Graf Dach didn't threaten to throw her party into a dungeon. And this is a sword craved by demons, so it's better that Frieren and co. find it before it can hurt more people.

Ah yes, a priest with a very detached mood and a hood that could cover her horns...obviously a demon, and Frieren sees through her quickly. But that's just how demons are, taking advantage of humans and feeding them as if it was purely natural and reasonable, as they are nothing more than beasts that can speak.

The second coming of the Sword Demon IS very good with that sword, though I love Stark protecting Fern and Frieren annihilating her. Just like how Himmel defeated the previous Sword Demon! Frieren continuing to follow in HIMmel's foosteps!

Is it smart to ditch that sword? Maybe. But maybe it's better to protect it so that another Sword Demon doesn't pop up. At least it's brought the town together. And you can always count on Frieren, so long as there's a grimoire she can get.

Sousou no Satellite Laser holy crap 😂

Teacher Frieren is always good. It shows she does have a serious side as well.

Everyone hating on the short battle . But actually this is realistic. It's all over in the. Blink of an eye gentleman.

"I promise that the path to the future... will be forged by my hands". Man, I got chills when hearing this line.

Hero of the South is such a gigachad he basically solo against all the Seven Sages of Destruction, even knowing he will died, and still able to kill three of them. And that fight scene near the end is soo good to look at, Frieren lit. reduced that demon into atoms, lol

Manga reader here. I do like the hero of the south. But, I just don't like how he directly says a hero will come and change her world 1 year later. Always felt like it cheapened Frieren's journey. It would have been better if it was more vague.




Holy shit did they just flash Frieren's encounter with "him"!? Crazy.




Demon Sword's part of the episode is funny and also very important.




Great episode all around.

Frieren got the Wololo spell

So this is how it should be [https://i.imgur.com/2g0YUhD.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/2g0YUhD.jpeg)

Might be the music, but the first half with the hero of the south really had an impact on me. I don’t know just carried so much weight.

**Frieren's German Lesson 2x2:**

We finally meet the Hero of the South who was first mentioned by Eisen in a flashback all the way back in episode 6 (at around 11:03)! Eisen already said back then that even ["the Hero of the South, who was said to be humanity's strongest fighter](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/cbd39841ccfc.PNG), [was defeated by the Demon King's Seven Sages of Destruction."](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/376eb9cd267c.PNG)

Well, that sold him quite short. More like, the Seven Sages of Destruction had to jump him all at once and even then 3 of 7, their leader being one of the 3 who was also a future seer just like himself, perished in the battle. Dude was an absolute beast and even knowing what was in store for him personally knew he had to go to his certain doom to cleave the way free so that Himmel & Co. could ultimately prevail against the Demon King. It's insane he took down 3 solo while fighting all of them at once while it's assumed that Himmel & Co. killed just two of them in seperate battles and as a full hero party. Although, they fought Aura as well but she just managed to get away before dying.

Besides that, there are a few interesting new German words mentioned this time. *rolls up sleeves*
Let's get to it!

**Episode 30: "The Hero of the South" (2x2)**
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*Locations*
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* **Fabel** (Village) - "fable", "fantastic story" (noun); a very fitting name for the town that carries the memory and legendary tale of the Hero of the South into the future with their honor and retelling of his tremendous achievment of killing 3 Sages of Destruction.

* **Faber** - Looked into this as well since I wasn't sure with which spelling they would ultimately go with. Apparently, this is the latinized version of the common German surname **Schmidt** (smith). The most famous use of this name is probably Faber-Castell, one of the world's oldest manufacturers of pens, pencils and art supplies. It seems like back in the day during the Renaissance when scholars in Europe were obsessed with Ancient Greek and Rome they sometimes translated their Germanic surnames into Latin or Greek to seem more academic/sophisticated. And thus surnames like **Schmidt** ("smith") -> Faber, **Bauer** ("farmer") -> Agricola, **Schneider** ("tailor") -> Sartorius etc. were created and used by Germans at the time. It's kinda funny to think that this was our great ancestors' chuuni-like way of changing their names to seem more cool, lol. All that being said, Fabel makes way more sense for the name.

* **Graf Dach** ('s Domain) - I already translated **Graf** back when Graf Granat first was introduced, it means "earl/count" (noun), the title. Meanwhile **Dach** is "roof", "housetop", "top" (noun), as in the roof on your house; it's not actually a location name technically but it's the only way we have to describe this area so I'm putting it here. I won't include him in the names section in return. I was also quite surprised by his voice, I thought they would go with the usual ikemen regal but soft sounding voice actor but his voice actor sounds very unique and deep with kind of an edge to his voice as well. I don't think I've ever heard this voice actor before.

* **Schwer** (Mountains) - "heavy", "weighty", "hefty", "hard", "difficult", "severe", "tough" (adjective); as a reminder. Frieren mentioned this is where they fought the previous thief of the heirloom sword. We have traveled over these mountains. It's the mountain range in which Frieren and Co. spent half a year with Kraft in a winter cabin in episode 11 as well as where the village of the sword is from episode 12. It's curious that they found the demon close to the village of the sword (although the mountain range seems huge so that might be an overstatement), I wonder if this demon also wanted to steal the Hero's sword? Assuming they did, did they manage to get to it but didn't manage to pull it out or were they killed by Himmel & Co. before they could even try?
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*Names*
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* "Hero of the South" (Humanity's Strongest) - this would be **Held des Südens** in German. It's a shame we never found out his real name this episode. I wonder which German word the author would use as his name... I can't even begin to guess since all guesses I could make like **Bester** ("the best"), **Held** ("hero") etc. immediately sound cheesy as hell coming from an actual German speaker, lol. **Sieg** ("victory") would maybe work but funnily enough that sounds too normal and too much like an actual German name for this author's naming sense, lmao.

* **Schlacht** (The Omniscient, The Demon King's Confidant, Future Seer) - "battle" (noun), the exact defnition in German is "fierce, prolonged fighting [consisting of several individual battles fought in different locations] between larger military units". If you are talking about a battle between individuals you would usually use **Kampf** or **Gefecht** ("battle" (noun)) instead or **Duell** ("duel" (noun)) if it's just 2 people squaring off and that's why I gave the definition - the scale matters. Also, **Schlachter** on the other hand means "butcher" (noun) but nowadays we use **Metzger** ("butcher") more. Although if you say "I butcher a cow" you would still say **"Ich schlachte eine Kuh."** To be honest **Schlacht** is quite the imposing name even to a German speaker. It somehow manages to sound very impressive and visceral since it invokes the image of spilling lots of blood. 'The Omniscient' is also quite the title. In German "omniscient" would be **allwissend** btw. which is literally just "all-knowing". Even though we barely get anything of him it's made clear very quickly that he seems to have been the biggest problem among the Seven Sages of Destruction by far from what we know up to this point. A battle between two future seers is quite exhilarating too. The fact that he had to bring all his other fellow Sages of Destruction to the fight despite seemingly having similar powers as the Hero of the South only makes the latter look even more insane.

* "Sword Demon" - this would be **Schwert Dämon** in German. She was very off-putting but also quite beautiful... please don't tell Frieren I said that. I really wonder why they are drawn to this heirloom sword. I wonder who the original demon was who owned it first.

* "Heirloom Sword" - this would be **Erbstückschwert** (**Erb** - "inheritance" (noun), **Stück** - "piece" (noun), **Schwert** - "sword" (noun) ) in German, another simple compound word. It's really curious to me that it originally came from a demon and the family decided to make it an heirloom. I understand why they want to keep it from demons nowadays since the demon who gets it apparently goes postal immediately afterwards, I just wonder why they originally first decided to keep it. Quite the headscratcher, this one. I guess I can see it make sense as a sort of trophy/spoils of war. Also, a bit weird it doesn't get a specific name. Just "heirloom sword" is quite generic...
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Links to my other comments (click 1x1 or 1x28 to then jump to any other comment for S1 from there):
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[1x28](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1bl26lw/sousou_no_frieren_frieren_beyond_journeys_end/kw2c1nw/) |
[2x1](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1qeib9f/sousou_no_frieren_season_2_frieren_beyond/nzxrbgj/) |
**2x2**

Frieren made a good deal by cleaning the statue in exchange for a spell to scratch the itchy parts on back. I'd love to have that kind of magic too!

The spell to turn a red apple green looks less interesting, but if Frieren was happy with it, then I'm happy with it too.

The Hero of the South appeared briefly in today's episode, but he certainly made a big impression. I wouldn't mind a spin-off about him as his story, especially the ending where he dies after fighting Schlacht and the Seven Sages, has huge potential!

I really laughed when Frieren tried to quickly deal with some things in the city, but unfortunately, Graf Dach's servant found her anyway, and she had to deal with the stolen sword, even though she clearly didn't want to do it xD

Despite this, Graf Dach was definitely more lenient than his grandfather, who was a real jerk, threatening Himmel's team with being thrown in the dungeon if they didn't find the stolen sword xD

The fight with the demon was great, though it's not surprising. I liked the moment when Stark saved Fern. It certainly earned him a few points with her.

I'll later update this comment with my screenshot albums from the episode.

He really deserve the title of humanity's strongest. Frieren admitted that they only defeated 2, but the chad hero of the south fought the seven sages, defeated 3 of them, and even taking out the right hand of the DK that can see 1000 years into the future.

And he did this SOLO while battling all seven of them.

The hero of the south crawled so that Himmel can run. He really did clear a path to both Frieren and Himmel.

So the hero of the south knew he would be running into a 1v FUCKING EIGHT and still went there and even managed to kill 3, it's so nice that his land remembers him well even after 80 years

Someone had entirely too much fun animating that horse.

They really did the Hero of the South justice, the specific music piece that played for him was godly. Evan Call does not miss, I can't wait to hear what else he composed for this season.

I really love the shift of Frieren from being aloof to getting down to business as they approach the demon. It's a reminder of how deeply that specific hatred runs for her.

Most of all... God damn did that fight animation go hard. Madhouse isn't letting up. I just feel like I'm not a big fan of the CG clouds/particle effects, the cell shading is a bit too obvious but that's a minor nitpick. That demon went straight for their backlines, that was impressive to see.

We're eating good this winter!

that was a really good episode overall. the hero of the south is very likeable and the fight with the sword demon was pretty good

the team actually brought back season 1’s director, [keiichiro saito](https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=keiichiro_saito) to do [the hero of the south doll segment](https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/298811), and what a segment it was. super good sense of 3 dimensionality, the shading was really good.

[the fight with the sword demon](https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/298821) was most likely done, at least in part, by [kouki fujimoto](https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=kouki_fujimoto). many of the fx in the fight were cg blender fx, which is a technique that fujimoto has been known to use to a great extent. its not exactly fujimoto’s most impressive work, but it was still really good, and served the show well.

i hope it becomes a running joke that [Stark can only catch ridiculously tiny fish](https://i.imgur.com/CS6K3v3.png)

[](#kukuku)

[who drew this frame lol](https://imgur.com/a/xGLjg9g)