Isekai no Sata wa Shachiku Shidai • Isekai Office Worker: The Other World's Books Depend on the Bean Counter - Episode 4 discussion
*Isekai no Sata wa Shachiku Shidai*, episode 4
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Where normally when referring to "modern" hours you'd use 時 (read `jikan`) or in certain situation just 時 (read `ji`).
So instead of saying 一時間 (read `ichi-jikan`), Aresh said 一刻 (read: `ikkoku` / one traditional hour).
Tbh I don't know why they didn't translate it to the literal time in the subtitles but alas.
"Make it an hour" *starts stripping* 😳
amazing
- [That’s one way to put it, I suppose.](https://i.imgur.com/scdU5Sa.png) [](#thoughtful)
- [That’s not it…!](https://i.imgur.com/GB7G9rQ.png) [](#crazedlaugh)
- [Oh damn, I think this is the first time I’ve seen a character ask if something will be done in a certain time frame](https://i.imgur.com/SVClfEJ.png) for [the character to ask for *even more time* than they were told.](https://i.imgur.com/PpYjdtE.png) I’m used to the other way around, with a character asking for a certain amount of time to complete something just to be told they need to get it done in like half their requested time. [](#whatdidijustread)
- [*That’s* what they attacked Sei for?](https://i.imgur.com/1YZ4apV.png) [](#bruh)
- [It is, yes.](https://i.imgur.com/bReJ0kn.png)
- [Oh boy, Aresh is *mad* mad.](https://i.imgur.com/eP6Cuhb.png) [](#popcorn2)
- [Ahh, so *that’s* what Sei did with the nail he grabbed.](https://i.imgur.com/m6jDAfo.png) [](#wakarimasu)
- [Yeah there’s no use denying your involvement anymore.](https://i.imgur.com/p9RvVCA.png) [](#micdrop)
- [Hah, of course something like *this* is what Sei prioritizes over any other punishment for what they did.](https://i.imgur.com/tNZSd9N.png) [](#kukuku)
- [lol, do you get it that Sei is who Aresh has been talking about now?](https://i.imgur.com/MT5dPtG.png) [](#azusalaugh)
- [Eyy, Aresh actually called Sei by the right name without mispronouncing it!](https://i.imgur.com/amqz8Sb.png) [](#neat) *That’s* true love.
- [It do be like that, Sei.](https://i.imgur.com/A6WpnUy.png) [](#therethere)
- [Oh wow.](https://i.imgur.com/esX0AXn.png) [](#shock)
He hit them where it hurts *and* where it helps the country.
>[Oh wow.](https://i.imgur.com/esX0AXn.png)
["Oh no, he's hot!"](https://youtu.be/5Ba9_jaN7EA?si=Xga4_NHTyOzMKx0X&t=6)
However the thought that it's a common smutty literature trope is *also* potentially hilarious for the idea that secret-romance-lover-Aresh imitated fiction in a panic and it worked but nobody wants to tell him they usually do like, a blood transfusion or something, who would actually use a bodice ripper as a manual?
The delusions of these people. Dafuq about “harboring feelings” for the saintess, where are these receipts for that?
Run to your man, Aresh. And guide him!
My face: 🙂
My mind: 🤸🏾♀️💃🏾😮💨🏳️🌈🥳
An ***accountant*** being the biggest threat to all these people is the energy I need in more fantasy stories. Fuck the demon king. Bureaucracy is where you find the real fighting. I’d be so tickled if a famed “Demon King” in some fantasy was actually an accountant who made everyone around them scared.
That eye close up felt like a Shaftism for two seconds.
The pose, help 🤙🏾😭
The gospel ED still surprises me, but I love listening it to it because the visuals are so beautiful.
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Once again, Maeno’s voice for his magic chanting is soothing. He could read the ingredients off my cat’s dry food, and I’d be smitten.
The irony of having a Seiichiro in the seiyuu line up, but he doesn’t voice the MC (he is Norbert) still makes me have a little giggle.
One thing that surprises me that I had no idea about until yesterday is that Studio Deen is also doing Shibouyugi and Villainess Adored by Neighboring Kingdom Prince. That genuinely surprised me. But I’m happy about it!
Classic projecting.
Our boy Seiichirou stands out more than he thinks, reactions vary from pure love, support, admiration, jealously, contempt. And what's particular to this show and much appreciated is that he does this despite having no magic power.[](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=a87a460474998c14&sxsrf=ANbL-n6XJrx4_iHX-Ud0wGr9jENqhwtNow:1769534355671&q=Seiichirou+Kondou&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgFuLVT9c3NCwvtIjPMispUoJwK8ry0gxzqoq0zD3y08szc1Kc83Mzk53y87ODU4syU4t9EzPznDMSixKTS1KLQvLhsnCxRayCwamZmckZmUX5pQre-Xkp-aUAfpRMhG0AAAA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj45r-VnaySAxVipZUCHbQRFnwQri56BAglEAQ)
I’m glad in end those guys got what was coming to ‘em. Most people would take their revenge on dudes who almost killed them, but Sei was pretty levelheaded with it all. Guy’s all about the work.
it shows up in some Japanese idioms/folklore, like [the hour of Ox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushi_no_toki_mairi)
Aresh does seem to feel a twinge of jealousy though - when he finds out the prime minister carried Sei to the infirmary. It could be the source of some conflict but I'm glad there's no actual triangle happening.
A lot more healing and familiarising in this episode! Aresh is clearly head over heels for our Bean Counter. But the latter is still clueless and only thinking about work and budgets. Glad golden retriever boy gave him a glow up for the banquet. Wonder if we'll get a dance or something next week?
I'm curious about how this world treats same sex relationships. Is it normal? Would it be scandalous for Aresh to openly show his feelings for Sei? There haven't been any hints about this one or the other. Aresh's vice commander seemed to assume he's into some palace lady, or so the subs said - not sure if he implied any gender when they were talking about his first love (awww).
Oh, and Aresh will be part of the expedition, I'm guessing. Will they take Sei along? The title of the next episode is "I went on an expedition" - who could the I refer to?
Never underestimate the thrill of getting handed exactly the information you needed to do your job.
More of than not homosexual relationships are banned or looked down upon due to not being able to reproduce (which means its a 'waste of intimacy" in some cultures) as there is no religious reason here. Nobility was often expected to produce an heir
Pretty sure he just didn't want to tell the prime minister without permission because that might anger Aresh. I don't think he implied anything about it being accepted or not.
[](#sassyimouto)
I don't think it was weird for him to leave with the documents, I thought it was a comedic scene where Aresh starts to scold Seiichirou so he runs away from the problem excited with the new report he got from Seiichirou. Like his favorite novelist handed him a new short book or something and he's eager to read it.
If he really cared about Sei as a person he would share in Aresh's concern about Sei working to get those documents ready when he ought to have been resting and recovering. Yes, it was played for laughs but it also shows that he only views Sei as a useful resource, not a person.
For most of the convo he doesn't imply a gender, but neither do the subs ("someone" etc), until the last little bit about "her" working in the castle. my audio comprehension is lacking even in english so I'm not 100%, but I think he does use "otome" for his hypthetical person, which is why the subs switch to she/her.
i don't even know how this world treats different sex relationships
so far it's a show about drugs, skinship, documents, fancy dinners, and beatings
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i guess they wanted to be more classy about it rather than name it Isekai Office Drone Fucks to Live and Lives to do Accounting
I mean, I know the casual sex is partially meant to convey how screwed up his mindset is but it’s also a hilarious bit.
Those guys picked on the guy under the protection of two of the most powerful people in the country and they’re going to regret it.
And there it is.
Honestly, they got off pretty easy.
Wait, did you finish that work before or after getting the shit beaten out of you? Oh no!
I wonder if Seiichirou would be safer being brought along on the expedition or left behind at work. One option means being close to world-ending danger while the other means being left to his own devices to overwork himself and overdose on tonics. Neither option is probably good for his wellbeing and Aresh’s overprotective tendencies.
Seeing as it’s a ball, they better use the golden opportunity to make them dance together. Don’t disappoint me now.
"Make it an hour" 😳
I do agree they got off pretty easy, but Sei's reasoning makes sense too, since every knight is precious to the kingdom and those who will join the Saint's expedition in particular (plus those 2 mostly cares about the money, so Sei can hit them where they hurts XD)
Yeah, both options aren't that safe. If he joins the expedition, he would be in danger because of his really low resistance to magic. If he stays, he will overwork himself and may even drink som other tonics due to aresh not being with him for a while. And aresh would be worried about sei all the time and not be able to focus on the expedition at all
And yeah, they better dance together now! Ahah
Also aresh definitly realizes he likes sei. Man is head over heels in love. Sei needs to stop looking at everything with money and make that man his officially. I think he is certainly implying something by not wanting to let aresh do all the work
Norbert being excited about helping sei for the ball ( and unknowingly playing wingman) is so adorable. It kind of makes me sad that he wasnt allowed to accompany sei to the ball because him and the holy maiden are cute together
Speaking of healing and norberts help. Ive noticed that seis eye bags have actually gradually been dissapearing.
It's amusing how Seiichirou went about their punishment, even if they don't think it's enough, Seiichirou thought up the best punishment that'd bring him satisfaction. I thought it was funny when he said both orders now owe him lol. I'm looking forward to see how he uses that.
It was interesting to see how jealous Aresh was because Karvada calls Seiichirou by his name. His feelings are becoming more apparent and I'm wondering if Seiichirou will notice it first or if Aresh will be the one to let him know, I'm going with the latter. Orjef freaking out over talkative Aresh was so funny.
I'm really liking Karvada, I thought he was going to be the exploitative type but he really cares for Seiichirou. The way he got happy about the report Seiichirou made as he ran away when Aresh started scolding Seiichirou was amusing. A little part of me wouldn't have minded a love triangle sub-plot with him but I don't think it'll come.
Norbert is such a golden retriever, I like how excited he is about Seiichirou being invited to the banquet. I'm sure Aresh is going to be blown away by Seiichirou's glow up.
you can tell it's a fantasy because there's a nice boss that stands up for him and appreciates all of his hard work
[](#cup7)
This shit always so.. hot? 🤭 i’m kicking my feet
Man straight up traded one addiction for another at this point.
this office drone discovered an *infinite money glitch*: annoy nobles, get beat up, extort money, get healed though arduous sex, repeat as necessary
Accusing him of being attracted to a 16 year old is crazy esp when he’s barely interacted w her and actively avoids her. Nasty f***s
I love seeing justice served quickly lol
I wish they’d beat their asses lol. Thats not enough lmao. Ughhh benevolent MC for the sake of the greater good. Good for him but come onn lmaoo
I get it but I love a good beating
Aww he’s jealous
Kondu you’re so damn dense
“Yes.”
“Do you know mine?”
“It’s… Aresh-sama.”
It really was emotional...
It's impressive how much the homophobes are downvoting this thread. I'm straight and really enjoying this so far, as an isekai with a unique premise that coincidentally has gay characters. (Even if I think the "healing" is hilariously bad worldbuilding.)
Still loving it, this and the vacation one. Better than the other trash isekai we get.
Looking at the top scoring BL genre on myanimelist, it looks like I've missed a bunch of good ones.
It's just refreshing to have an anime that isn't the above stuff, even if I don't think this one is overall that good either (It's fine, I just want more of a focus on the actual isekai and their abilities part). I've started just avoiding any anime where the thumbnail is just the MC and 3-5 women because I know they're going to be the focus and I'm going to hate it.
[](#taigasigh)
"Service" him, not top.
It's not like, say, ***Mignon***, which has the hottest sex ever depicted in animated form.
Ah Seichiro my rod is too thick for you I'll have to bottom or something
"H-hai..."
I liked the suspense of the doctor having to stall on Karvada demanding he treat Kondu but not having an adequate explanation of why he couldn't heal him. The doctor's explanation that Kondu couldn't handle the necessary magic to heal him does sound suspicious if you don't know the context. I also think that Aresh would be more mad that the doctor is "healing" Kondu like with kissing and and sex, it'd be like he was doing it with his man. The doctor being so scared of Aresh makes me suspect he's the only one who knows he's gay and in love with Kondu.
It may have seemed odd that Aresh took the money for healing Kondu but I suspect it was because if he told the truth that he was so concerned because he's in love with him, that might scare Kondu away from his supervision. I think Kondu was going to suggest that other people and maybe the doctor assist Aresh in immunizing him to magic but Aresh started healing before he could complete his thought since he didn't like that idea.
One thing I thought was weird was when Kondu said it was too convenient that Karvada just happened to find him, as if he's somehow involved in beating him up. If that were so, Karvada would have just left him there or possibly finished him off rather than go thru the great effort of carrying him to the infirmary and demanding the doctor treat him. Maybe Kondu wasn't thinking clearly from having been beaten.
Loved the episode a lot otherwise!
P.S.: Wrote the comment after two-third of the episode and just shortly after they talk about first names haha, so it did not only feel awkward to me.
I do like the extra long angry and jealous Aresh moments here.
I wonder if that doctor knows what’s actually going on during the “healing”
I really hope Sei realizes that things like sitting in Aresh's lap isn't needed for the treatment but in order to have an emotional closeness. I'm seriously rooting for Aresh to get through Sei's obliviousness here. The man isn't being subtle about what he wants.
The Prime Minister ✌️