Yoroi-Shinden Samurai Troopers - Episode 4 discussion
*Yoroi-Shinden Samurai Troopers*, episode 4
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Shion knocked Ryuusei to cause a little death
More Training
Ryuusei and Shion'e past
Kaito Busou Transformation scene is awesome
The song is absolutely banging amazing
Plus the Last Boss arrives
Overall it's super awesome
I can't wait for a more serious battle episode.
Center: Gai
Leader: Ryusei
Gai father says Hello to the world
If everybody wants to fight Saizou, he'll just duplicate himself to fight everybody. Oh, and did we mention Kamonosuke is still alive? Good thing Gai has gained Nezu's paralysis powers...I think?
They managed to win a fight without any civilian casualties! Even Gai seems somewhat moved by being seen as a Hero instead of a Demon, especially when he's helping his comrades out more. Even if he still pretends otherwise. Meanwhile Yamato may or may not have peed himself. What a hero!
What happened to the OG Samurai Troopers? When the seal to the Demon realm original broke, they went in to try to fix things...and never came back. So the originals are all still in the Demon Realm somewhere. And Ryusei and Shion's old squad went in to try and find them, only to be overpowered by the demons, leading to their friends' death, Ryusei getting demonically poisoned, and Shion blaming Ryusei for the loss of their team. I too will mourn the loss of their female teammate.
Sasuke (Takuya Sato!) doesn't care for how Saizou has been acting, and what Emperor Ramaga is really planning, though it was nice of Ramaga to clue in his men on what the actual plan is.
I love how Gai has to take lessons to teach him that murder is wrong. Though it seems like he and Kaito are coming together as a bickering buds duo, and the entire team can come together in their shared desire to stop the 10 Warriors and save Ryu.
Musashi doesn't want to die a virgin against a giant teddy bear! Especially if he's the only member of this team who hasn't gotten laid.
So Shion has the Sword of Destruction and was willing to play ball with Yagyu and her Sacred Treasure...even if he had to be an egomaniac mad scientist convinced only he can save the world in the process. But even despite that, and his distaste for Ryu, Ryusei still treats him like a comrade.
It's nice to see the team has grown close enough to call out each others' quirks. And that means it's time to learn their secret arts finishing moves! And to team-up to keep Ryusei out of the fight for his own sake.
The team has come together just in time to bail Shion and the Sword of Destruction out when he's clearly overwhelmed...and letting Kaito show off his transformation, Gai his new attack, and to educate Shion on how Ryusei has been struggling ever since he saved him. If nothing else, deep down Shion cares about Ryusei even though he annoyed him to no end...and he'll battle for Ryusei out of spite if he has to.
I love how Mirei's VR avatar has her as a gyaru.
Of course just when the team is doing well...the Big Bad Ramaga shows up to face them and his son!
Very good VR avatar for our twintails engineer. Normally a violent tsundere would be a bit passe these days but I think Yamato needs those punches to keep him in line. It might also help that Mirei seems like she's probably a bit older than the usual violent tsuns given how long she's been with the organization.
I figured Ryusei was just dying from too much armor use but that poison changes things since there's potentially a way to clear it. Wolf guy starting the fight at the end with a few thrown daggers probably tells us he was the poisoner so the solution may be closely at hand.
With the way she was calling to Ryusei when she found him tied up in the VR training area I'm a bit suspicious that Mirei is in love with him.
Everyone else is either too stuck-up, wussy, or obsessed with her.
They are singing another 1980s rock hit, [Runner](https://youtu.be/KWZf8MrUm2U?si=eeeVWDo3OE19dz04) by rock band [Bakufu Slump.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakufu_Slump)
[Translated lyrics here.](https://lyricstranslate.com/en/runner-runner.html-0)
>Ryusei was just dying from too much armor use but that poison changes things since there's potentially a way to clear it.
Depends if the writing wants to subvert cliches and save him, or it sticks to cliches and kills him off. As a JPN tweet said, Ryusei's death flag is as tall as the Tokyo Skytree.
In real life it could be several minutes, but in VR world that would already be hours
Also doubt that Ramaga is OG heroes. We've seen the OG MC met with child Musashi and his brother. Them disappearing must have happened after that. This means the timeline doesn't align with Gai's age.
`<spoiler>`Cara, a Nasty (Conhecida como Mia, no Brasil), SACRIFICOU OS ANTIGOS GUERREIROS LENDÁRIOS... Todos os principais, estão mortos. Depois deles entrarem no portão, foram derrotados (Não sei como isso poderia ocorrer, se os 5 eram muito fortes e que conseguiam invocar a última armadura).
A Mia (Nasty), mandou o novo Guerreiro da Luz, junto com aquele cara pra saber o que aconteceu e ao invés de resgatarem, ao meu ver, pegaram as Armaduras e deixaram eles pra morrerem lá.
Cara, é muito sem sentido porque a Mia, sempre ajudou os 5, seguindo a missão do avô dela, para agora, abandonar os guerreiros que ela sempre ajudou.
Essa justificativa, não bate nenhum pouco com a Mia/Nasty da primeira versão. A antiga, jamais faria isso, inclusive a da versão do mangá, que ela sofria de um TUDO, quando a Dinastia a sequestrava e lá estavam 1 ou os 5 guerreiros pra salvá-la.
1. A Mia de 1998: Mulher Grata, companheira, orientadora sendo quase a mãe dos 5.
2. A Mia de 2026: Mulher Fria, comportando-se como um Líder da Nerv (Neo Gênesis...), que sacrifica o que for pelo próprio interesse. E essa mia até agora, não conseguiu mandar em ninguém, mesmo sendo "A LÍDER DA ORGANIZAÇÃO", porque ninguém a obedece.
Eu consigo ver que, fizeram isso para colocar esses novos guerreiros (essa cantoria toda hora já tá ficando chata... -\_\_\_\_-...), no lugar dos anteriores, já que os que gostamos muito, jamais aparecerão.
E Envenenamento, vimos isso de uma maneira parecida com Saint Seiya Ômega, que o corpo era contaminado pelo poder de(do) Apsu, que usou do Marte, para isso acontecer com o Seiya e a Athena. Acho que os contaminados, se queimassem o Cosmos, se contaminam mais e mais, até escurecerem e serem presos no planeta do(da) Apsu.
Agora, dar para entender do porque a Nasty, fez uma publicidade grande com os antigos Guerreiros, porque eles morreram mesmo, mas, muito da culpa disso ocorrer, foi dela.
Esse episódio, me deixou chateado, já que eu sou um fã da série animada, exibida em 1998 no Brasil, pela Rede de Tv manchete.
Some may ask, how is it possible that Ramaga, aka Ryo, could have a 14 year old son after being trapped in the demon realm for only 5 years? It is possible that time flows differently in the demon realm than on Earth. Remember, Kayura from the OG was several hundred years old, but had the physical appearance of a 12 or 13 year old girl.
The Original Team:
Ryo Sanada
Seiji Date
Shu Rei Fuan
Touma Hashiba
Shin Mouri
The Team We See In The Flashback
Ryusei
Shion
And three members presumed dead: Shun, Tadayoshi & Seiun.
They have not killed the original team, we still do not know where they are, just that they last went through the Demon Realm gate years prior. I doubt they are dead and they will more than likely tie into what is going on for the current Villain's plans. Let's not jump the gun and start throwing out assumptions of death 4 episodes in.
As for Nasuti and her choice to withdraw the standing members of the 2nd team (Ryusei & Shion) yeah, that was probably a tough call to make. But we also have to take into account we don't know all the details, she also clearly feels bad about the choice and tries to shoulder full responsibility for it. A lot of time has gone by as well, she was very young in the original series, time and life changes people. She isn't going to be the exact same person she was all those years ago, but she also doesn't seem like a heartless asshole like someone working at Nerv.
Last thing to note, I get your love for the original series, but this isn't about those characters anymore, they made that clear with the promotion for the anime before it came out. It is a new team carrying the legacy as a new threat emerges. And as far as sequel cast go, I personally enjoy these guys. The singing seems more of a way to link them and call back to the time the original series came from, but that's just personal preference. Let's just see where the series goes.
Finally special attacks. Gai's not bad, I'd say.
Ramaga appears, I have a feeling things won't go very well...
For sure; especially given how the OG series ended [spoiler OG]>!the remaining (reformed) demon generals and Kayura returned to the demon world to reform it, plus the sealing of the demon gates. Ramaga's rise to power and the gates reforming 5 years prior mean something went wrong during the 30 years, not to mention how a human like Gai was brought over to start with.!<
I was in the mindset of Ryuusei possibly dying or retiring and being replaced by Shion, but from this episode it seems like he could be healed and gain his power back. It'd be cool to see him be able to go all out. We might even see a 6 man Samurai Trooper.
Shion's got to feel extra guilty for being so hostile towards him without noticing the truth, but it's understandable he'd overlook when his emotions were running high from the shock of his teammates being abandoned.
It's pretty common to introduce your prince to high level courtesans.
In the dub of Ronin Warriors, they switched Rowen/Touma's virtue (Wisdom) with Sage/Seiji's (Grace/Courtesy) but then rendered Rowen's virtue as "Life," while Sage in the dub had "Wisdom." As in, the dub switched around the virtues between the Dark Blue and Green armors.
Shion seems to be marked for "Grace" yet in the flashback he's wearing the armor associated with Wisdom/Intellect (at least by process of elimination, since the color's kind of washed out but the three that are down are clearly Earth/Water/Fire). I thought that was neat.
Given the flashback for 5 years prior shows the original group in their armor from the show, I am assuming that the OVAs where their armor is destroyed and they get a new (uglier) set are being ignored.
It's possible Ramaga is not truly evil. Given how his armor resembles Arago/Talpa's original armor... He could be one of the three remaining Warlords from the original series, keeping Arago bound. Saizou is under secret orders. We don't hear what Ramaga tells the rest off screen. So we don't know if he's lying to them. It's possible Ramaga is building Gai's strength so Ramaga can unbind Arago and have him be destroyed.
Crackpot theory: Ramaga is a demon possessing the corpse of Anubis/Shuten-douji - or him somehow resurrected - and possibly still trying to combat Arago by building Gai up to do it.
I think I'd be disappointed though if Ramaga's not an original character unless they're very clear how an existing character became him and those events are compelling. We already know from the OG series that there were other demons with high ambitions in the demon world that were not Arago.