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Darwin Jihen • The Darwin Incident - Episode 4 discussion

*Darwin Jihen*, episode 4

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szalhi2026-01-27 16:51

*If Charlie's an asset, then he's a damn fine cool asset.*

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-27 16:51

It’s interesting to see the struggles Charlie has faced as a Humanzee, especially in terms of the law. It’s wild in all this time there hasn’t been a single law to protect someone like Charlie. Not even an amendment or anything. It’s already bad enough the world already treats him like some kind of curiosity. Dude deserves at least some legal protection to help maintain his dignity.

It’s some bullshit what happened with these terrorists and what happened when he was 5. Bro just wants to live his life, figure out what it means to be a Humanzee. He doesn’t need this grief. Besides, those bars clearly can’t contain him anyways.

BusouDrago2026-01-27 17:01

We need man with yellow hat to his Curious Charlie ( George)

Myrkrvaldyr2026-01-27 19:02

>It’s interesting to see the struggles Charlie has faced as a Humanzee, especially in terms of the law. It’s wild in all this time there hasn’t been a single law to protect someone like Charlie.

Well, the idiots running the show better wise up fast because if an AGI gets invented, refusing to give it rights might not be in humanity's best interests. You can't create true sapient self-aware intelligence and not give it rights. It's ridiculous Charlie wasn't given any in the first place. Maybe it's the author's way of criticizing bureaucracy.

guineaprince2026-01-28 04:48

> Well, the idiots running the show better wise up fast because if an AGI gets invented, refusing to give it rights might not be in humanity's best interests.

The only AGI at risk of being invented anytime soon is "Whatever makes us a billion dollars profit first".

No seriously. That's the actual definition of "AGI" being aimed for.

Whatever academic talk about superintelligence and singularities and the need for benevolent AI over the past few decades... lol we don't gotta worry about that anytime soon, LLMs are to actual artificial intelligence as my shoelaces are to an FTL spaceship.

diacewrb2026-01-27 19:27

Data in TNG can relate to Charlie.

To be fair, the law is more reactive than proactive. So long as no-one rocks the boat, then the politicians and judges won't care.

In the real world we don't bother with creating new laws or changing old laws unless the press kicks up a stink about an issue and politicians need the votes.

BosuW2026-01-27 20:53

Thats why the right to protest and an empathetic society are so important. No one does shit if they don't think it affects them directly.

don21712026-01-27 16:52

Yeet canon?

FarCritical2026-01-27 17:26

That's one crazy snowball effect of just trying not to drown.

Wonder what the protocol is for "evidence" making a breakout.

darthvall2026-01-27 18:04

As usual, it's caused by police escalating the situation more than necessary.

SouekiSennoSTM2026-01-27 18:43

Art imitates life.

Myrkrvaldyr2026-01-27 18:52

Since Americans cops are apparently taught to be paranoid and that everyone hates them, their reaction was normal from what I've seen. If Charlie were in another country, the cops would've done a better job.

darthvall2026-01-27 19:15

RIP Harambe

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:40

It all went downhill from there

1832vini2026-01-27 20:37

it's like american cops sterotype where they are taught to shoot first, talk later.

CSX 8888 incident; MFer was trying to shoot a run away train.

bruh, it's a train, your bullets ain't doing anything to it.

Detective-Crashmore-2026-01-28 00:25

>If Charlie were in another country, the cops would've done a better job.

I think there's like 10 countries worldwide where the cops would have done better lol. As trigger happy as American cops are, tribalism and a low respect for animal life are pretty ubiquitous among cops on Earth.

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 06:32

I always thought of them as Killer-T cells or bears ever since I was a baby.

"Respect the wildlife, it's dangerous."

I thought I was being overly paranoid at the time, but it turns out that I was born with innate wisdom.

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 06:31

**This show is so immersive**, almost as immersive as toddlers trying to drown me in a pool. (get it?! Cuz 'immerse' has the meaning of putting something underneath a body of liquid)

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:40

Mann, I've seen a scene like that before, but in kindergarten is pretty early

Joji10002026-01-28 00:41

Well at the very least we know they can't "destroy" the "evidence". Hell, maybe him breaking out broke chain of custody making him nonviable as evidence (if chain of custody applies in this case, I really have no clue)

good_wolf_19992026-01-27 17:39

Charlie being labeled as a pet would be less humiliating than being labeled as mere property because at least he is being acknowledged as a living being with rights

Kid just wants to find his place in the world but he either gets bullied or have terrorist wanting to forcefully make him the face of their movement

Burns01242026-01-28 05:09

That he's considered property is complete a total BS. It's not the 1800s, why the fuck would America decide a sentient creature who speaks english is property. Corporations are considered people, but not Charlie? gtfo. This episode really tanked the show for me.

TeamOk32802026-01-28 06:52

I mean it is America.

BluHamlet2026-01-27 17:43

It's been 15 and animal rights laws still haven't been amended to include protections for humanzees? Maybe *this* is why the series is set in the US.

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:48

Excuse me, what is this "humanzee(s)" you speak of, last time I checked, there's literally just Charlie.

Zooomz2026-01-28 10:00

Well in real-life, there are several purported cases lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

BluHamlet2026-01-28 12:27

Sure, I just figured any laws would account for potential future humanzee individuals as well.

AnzoEloux2026-01-27 17:55

Those guys in the ALA have to realize that getting on Charlie's bad side isn't going to do them any favors, right? Feels like that leader dude has an agenda behind just charlie. Maybe he wants to create more hybrids? But I have a feeling the series isn't trying to go the stereotype route where the only dangers to Charlie are other hybrids. So what kind of psychological damage can you inflict on the apathetic Charlie without outright murdering his family (since he's not just gonna let them die if he can help it).

Next Tuesday can't wait man I'm obsessed with this concept.

Myrkrvaldyr2026-01-27 18:54

>Those guys in the ALA have to realize that getting on Charlie's bad side isn't going to do them any favors, right?

Maybe the idea is to get Charlie exposed to the world and make them believe that he's with the terrorists. If Charlie is given no way out, he gets cornered. Not sure why he'd believe that'll get Charlie to side with them, but spreading misinformation is very efficient.

BosuW2026-01-27 20:36

You can follow their twisted logic if you put yourself on their shoes. They used to hate and fight terrorists. Now they're the terrorists. Is it really strange then that they believe Charlie will develop into their methods if he follows their trauma? He doesn't have to like them, he only has to believe in their cause.

That's what I think they're thinking.

theHugoat2026-01-28 09:59

Based on the convo he had with Charlie + him trying to frame Charlie, I think he is simply trying to make Charlie feel like everyone hates him. His logic is that if all humanity turns on Charlie, then Charlie opposes humanity aka sides with the animals.

I don’t believe Charlie sees it so black and white though, because he realizes everyone is an animal and also recognizes that everyone is an individual

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-27 17:59

[Damn. So I guess the "Charlie and Lucy lived happily ever after and had many children" ending is out of the question!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e40edfe265a5.png)

[](#urbansmile)

I know he's not really their child and all, [but this still felt a bit cold, given they do treat him as their child!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/2e8c03a10755.png)

If my "child" who's targetted by a terrorist association went missing, I don't care what I'm teaching, I'm leaving!

[Yeah... The cops might not make the best effort to find him!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/848edd4f5763.png)

[The ALA thugs were about to fight Charlie (and get obliterated), ](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/caa07252b2c4.png)

[but he was smarter about it!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/af06a2fef5e9.png)

I wonder what % of that was "I don't want to get my ass kicked" and what % was "See if I can convince him"!

[Hah. They were all fine with agreeing about psychological pain, until Charlie told them THEY are causing it right now, even if they're not actively doing anything!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/462f6f62c175.png)

[2nd anime I've seen mention that (and the other one wasn't even about animals!)](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/4fe614464e86.png)

But it's kinda funny how we humans even notice how our pets walk differently and all, probably even more than other humans! Like, I see 2 cats walking and I know how different they walk, but people I've known for years, I wouldn't even be able to say, other than like 'this one walks fast/this one walks slow'.

[](#bigthink)

Charlie did know they would lie, so a conversation wouldn't mean that much...

[Ok true, but when you don't know which is the lie and which the truth, it's hard to hold a genuine conversation!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e4756eefdf0d.png)

[Ok this one I agree with!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/4a16e459efee.png)

[I wonder if he was just trying to use that short ride to get Charlie to their side...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/dd783d0a5803.png)

Or just plan seeds in his mind, that could be useful later on, under certain potential circumstances?

When he told his guy to speed up I expected him to crash the car to make an escape, [but I wasn't expecting THAT!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/09b03f8a05e1.png)

[](#panic)

I guess they volunteered him as a sacrifice for the cause, how happy he must feel, to be of service!

[](#urbansmile)

[Well that doesn't look good...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ca27961f9886.png)

I thought they would assume Charlie stabbed him, but I didn't think it was equally bad if they thought he was with them

[](#panic)

[Ok he was loyal to the army, but if his general had stabbed him in the belly before he was captured, perhaps he might have acted differently!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/a44763afdcf9.png)

I'm not sure I would trust on his silence!

When they get all riled up, [I keep thinking THEY might do something a little *extreme* at some point... *For a good cause*, to protect Charlie and all.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/5377a5e5da13.png)

[Either them, or Lucy!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/780bfdfec3b3.png)

[Ok this may be a little farfetched hah.](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/1e2178f2b5f9.png)

If they do end up doing something extreme, I feel like this might be the time, because unless they manage to resolve this peacefully, they might be outlaws/in hiding from this point on!

One last note: I don't know if it's just me (and I don't know if I would have noticed it if there wasn't a chimpanzee/hybrid on this show, but I keep seeing shots of Lucy who looks

[a bit](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ecdd41a3192a.png)

[ape-like...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/c3ad93a59b4b.png)

And she's the only character in the entire show (other than the actual chimpanzee) who makes me think that. So I thought that was a bit strange!

[](#bigthink)

Myrkrvaldyr2026-01-27 18:59

>I thought they would assume Charlie stabbed him, but I didn't think it was equally bad if they thought he was with them

Given how smart Charlie is, he shouldn't have touched the knife. Chimps have fingerprints just like humans. It would've been easier to prove Charlie didn't stab him if he didn't touch the knife.

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:49

I imagine Charlie just never felt the need to learn about U.S laws, you know, since he's been locked up in a house for a whole decade

darthvall2026-01-27 18:04

Watching this can be mentally exhausting since there are just a lot of dumb (but true to reality) people on the show. I've had enough of seeing people of authority being dumb both in real life and in anime.

Sigh...

Anyway, I just noticed, despite using Japanese language did they drop all the honorifics? Very interesting considering the setting is in America. I need to recall if Banana Fish also did the same or not.

BosuW2026-01-27 20:55

> Anyway, I just noticed, despite using Japanese language did they drop all the honorifics? Very interesting considering the setting is in America. I need to recall if Banana Fish also did the same or not.

They did. The author is obviously taking the setting seriously. Though now I'm gonna be on the lookout for body language lol. AoT also did away with honorifics (except where it was appropriate like military ranks), but the in S4 someone bowed like the Japanese to apologize for something.

Burns01242026-01-28 05:06

Okay well I guess this waas the comment I was looking for. I had to stop halfway through because I can't believe they did what they did. Like if you just talk to Charlie he'd tell you exactly what happened, and plus he can tear you arm off why would he need a knife and it all makes me very mad and broke the 4th wall for me because its just so dumb.

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:47

Thats the funny part, there are literally cops that are just that plain dumb and irrational. [For example!](https://youtu.be/MI7YNOhAfzM?si=XZA17JgjO9Ttg1YR)

Detective-Crashmore-2026-01-27 18:14

Obama just wants to make sure the Affordable Care Act applies to Charlie too.

guineaprince2026-01-28 04:44

What makes him Obama?

Detective-Crashmore-2026-01-28 05:24

his drip and passing resemblance

guineaprince2026-01-28 05:42

Passing resemblance?

Detective-Crashmore-2026-01-28 07:22

Yes motherfucker, I think he looks like Obama.

Can we just skip the part where you dance around trying to subtly imply I'm racist, and I have to send you a picture of my balls to prove my blackness.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:36

Yes, he looks like Obama.

That's why in literally every thread for this show people are saying "He looks like Obama"

And not "He looks like Michael Jordan" or "He looks like Malcolm X" or "He looks like Denzel Washington"

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 06:35

Our lack of experience with African Americans, recent events (and derivative internet culture), and the fact that both Obama and this fictional character are quite handsome!

I feel really bad about comparing them immediately, but he does remind me of Obama.

Speaking of Obama in animation: [filmcow obama - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=filmcow+obama)

Detective-Crashmore-2026-01-28 09:24

>Our lack of experience with African Americans

Uhh, speak for yourself lol, I'm black. The dude looks like Obama.

Not all black people look alike, but ***SOME*** black people look alike. Being weird about it is what betrays y'all's inexperience with black people.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:34

Yeah, the idea that people are just saying that because "they say all black people look alike" is silly;

I mean, day one everyone was saying Obama; Why did they say Obama, and not Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or Martin Luther King or..? Why was it all Obama?

***Because he looks like Obama***

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 16:23

That's right! I am speaking for myself and am weird/awkward.

Hello there!

Broken_DMG2026-01-28 11:49

Obamna: SODA!!!

HolyDragSwd25002026-01-27 18:29

Charlie being an object/property and his family, now Lucy are fighting for his rights.

majestic_rainbows2026-01-27 18:46

Episode was storyboarded by Hideki Nagamachi (長町英樹) and directed by both Shinpei Tomooka (友岡新平, is also the character designer on the show) and Katsuya Furumoto (古本勝哉)

Also, in this episode, Tsuyoshi Wakamatsu (若松剛) wasn't credited as Production Manager (制作管理) like he was for previous episodes.

NationalStrategy2026-01-27 18:52

"I don't think they were really trying to drown him. It was probably just a small prank."

Pushing a beginner level swimmer into a pool and holding them down underwater is not a small prank, that could've killed him.

What if Charlie didn't fight back, and those kids held him down underwater for too long; I doubt that it would be considered a small prank then. Even if they didn't have malicious intent, they were wrong for doing that.

SouekiSennoSTM2026-01-27 19:58

It was probably a prank (though I'd say pretty damn big "prank" as opposed to a small one) in that they didn't actually mean to murder or seriously injure him but instead frighten him and have fun at his expense to impress their friends, but to Charlie or anyone else going through that, it would be absolutely terrifying and appear life-threatening in real time.

Because even if that's probably not their intent (murder), you can't know their intent.

I'm sure I've seen different variations of this situation in a lot of other media, but for some reason all that I could think of was that this scene heavily reminded me of the pool scene toward the end of the Swedish horror romance film Let the Right One In (if anyone here has seen that).

Commercial-Pack2632026-01-27 20:00

Dude i thought the "prank" was just them pushing him down and since he didnt learn how to swim he'd risk drowning, which perfectly makes sense if you compare it to dumb shit kids do at that age. I didnt think that they would jump and hold him down that's outright attempted murder. If this was me id be strapped with a police cam always on me

the-greenest-thumb2026-01-28 03:51

I thought he'd drop to the bottom of the pool as chimpanzees can't really swim and tend to sink

dethstrobe2026-01-28 07:05

That's exactly what I thought, it's unnecessarily malicious to literally hold Charle under the water. And there is already a narrative reason that this is dangerous for Charle, chimps really can't swim. Also, it might be nice to give Charle some kryptonite because right now he seems too strong. But I'm probably giving the writer too much credit, because i'm sure he didn't know that chimps can't swim.

BosuW2026-01-27 20:47

Kids, even teens, don't ever think their pranks will seriously harm someone. They might be superficially aware of what drowning is, but subconsciously it's not something they ever think they will have to face in their immediate and perceived world. They know what it is but it's not "real". Its the arrogance of inexperience.

A couple years ago in my country (México) there was a viral trend where highschool students would convince a classmate to jump and sweep their feet from under them. Eventually someone hit their head fatally on the fall and died. If you'd ask the culprit I'm sure they'd say "I didn't think he would die", despite how irrational it is.

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-27 18:58

I wonder if the sheriff lied about the story and purposely left out the drowning detail or if he is actually unaware. I don't think it'd make a big difference in how he feels about Charlie but it would at least be a better representation of his character.

I like how all Charlie needed was Lucy to call him out, I wonder if Hannah did it if he'd rush out. It feels like the author is putting more weight on Lucy's power over him. But they know what he's capable of and thought the jail cell would be enough to keep him inside, he was letting himself stay there.

I did like how Charlie handled Revera and how observant he was. It's too bad that he held the knife though, that was clearly a bad move and it sucks that no-one spoke about what happened. Not that I expect the sheriff to believe it or care.

SSjjlex2026-01-28 00:19

> I wonder if the sheriff lied about the story and purposely left out the drowning detail or if he is actually unaware.

I would assume their only info would come from the kids and they would more likely butter up their acts by saying stuff like "we were just playing then he attacked us" as kids normally do in situations like this. Couple that with the police wanting to cover up the event (either out of humiliation or desire to not escalate it) and thats all the story they'll get.

We only know of the true story through charlie's parents who could've dug that out of him much later after charlie had calmed down from the whole event

djthomp2026-01-27 19:05

This just keeps being a slowly escalating disaster. The only people so far who are having some success with their plans are the nutjob terrorists.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:40

> The only people so far who are having some success with their plans are the nutjob terrorists.

*"Wait, should we join the winning side then?"*

Joking aside, I wouldn't be surprised if "The good guys" started going a little more extreme at some point...

At the moment they're talking about sueing the government (which is already a bit extreme in itself) but I imagine that won't work - at least until the very end of the show - so they may resort to other means later on!

RedHotChiliCrab2026-01-27 19:18

Why is this series so underrated? This season is stacked with great sequels but this is easily one of the best new anime for me. Finally something original that is not stuffed with common anime tropes.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:42

Sadly I think there's a lot of "turn off" for many fans;

One of the main character being a chimpanzee is a big one, then some people don't like the americanized side of it, and some people don't like the politics/messages/how it presents them and all.

(And generally speaking, original stuff rarely hits it big, sadly; People copy&paste the same crap because that's what sells)

I wish it was more popular, but whatever! Top 5 this season for me.

diacewrb2026-01-27 19:32

If it wasn't for all those witnesses, then that cop would have shot Charlie after the car crash and sprinkled crack on him Salt Bae style.

FLorianGran2026-01-27 19:37

The way Charlie is framed reminds me alot of an alien, and I think this could be a similar story if he was. Although the whole life on other planets thing is probably a whole new debate this show doesn't have space for

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-27 19:55

I still find Charlie's super powers ludicrous, but the scenes between him and the terrorists were good. Contrived conclusion with setting him up as a "murderer" though... I guess the type of cops that these bunch are would automatically believe the worst of him though. At least they didn't shoot him ten times in the back.

There is tragedy in his past that also reveals some of the details of how he was brought up before starting to attend school. The whole legal status thing seems wonky to me... far more likely he would have been taken into custody by the government or some university etc. at that point.

Oh he can bend steel bars now? I'm not giving up my super soldier serum theory.

Blackpowderkun2026-01-28 03:08

The terrorist leader did say he has the strength exceeding a regular chimp. Plus there is the possibility that the county cheap out on cells that can be open by 2 people with the right leverage.

https://youtu.be/FV4Yb4YuEkM?si=TPkDVNQBjhxOPXfz

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-28 05:26

It is possible Charlie's "powers", mental and physical both, are just meant to be taken at a face value after the explanation earlier how a "crossbreed" is superior to both stock races. But to the extent shown by Charlie seems unlikely. I suppose we shall see if there is more to it in future episodes.

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 06:42

I love my Super Curious ~~George~~ Chaari.

Come to think of it, what kind of animal is Curious George? (different show, don't get confused) He always gave me this Chimpanzee feeling, but the show kept calling him a monkey.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:50

> I still find Charlie's super powers ludicrous

The only one that kinda made me raise an eyebrow was the cell escape thing!

Him being super strong/quick and all, I mean the only difference between this and the million other shows/movies that have MCs be like that, is that this one has a bit of a serious tone so it clashes more.

That being said:

>I'm not giving up my super soldier serum theory.

I mean it's either thatt, or the fact that (canon to this series) human/chimp hybrids are simply stronger and all! Because they DID hint at him being far above normal chimpanzee many times, and in this episode they said he was smarter than humans when he started school, so..!

(Plus just the way he talks, like in that scene with the bullies, it's easy to see his intellect is on another level compared to them).

Queue_Jumping_Quack2026-01-28 15:53

I think the super powered outsider bit, which is otherwise quite common in scifi stories (hell Superman is a famous example of an super powered outsider raised by an ordinary family) doesn't really work for me with this series is because I don't buy the explanation (mixing human and chimpanzee produces a hybrid that is significantly stronger and smarter than either), and thus keep coming up with alternative theories.

I also like Charlie's somewhat detached and pragmatic way of looking at the world, and his backstory is quite sympathetic. I can't quite predict which way he will go, other than protecting his family and Lucy. Will the terrorist leader manage to influence his thinking?

lordgamermon2026-01-27 20:35

This anime now has plot points similar to Ted 2 and I think that's kind of funny 🤣 Great episode aside. Still bummed about the AI usage in Episode 2. That hurts a lot.

BosuW2026-01-27 20:42

This episode really puts into the forefront the relevancy and seriousness of the central theme of the series, which might seem, and unfortunately many anime fans have already discarded as, silly on first sight.

But the fact is we as a civilization make laws to order the silly and absurd world into something we can work with, and those laws therefore follow a certain philosophy and way to view the world. Because we grew up with them, we often take that for granted. But every so often something appears or happens that exposes an intentional or accidental blindspot. And that can be extremely uncomfortable and disturbing because it's not only about the letter of the law, it signals out and irritates something in the worldview of a whole Nation.

In this case, it's about the arbitrary considerations we have for considering a living thing conscious, what rights and quality of life should they be guaranteed.

abandoned_idol2026-01-28 06:39

Darn, I just wanted to laugh and cry, not be taught a very valuable and insightful lesson in civil rights.

But I did get Charlie bail himself out of his jail cell, so it's still meeting my action quota.

Can't wait to see more of this story!

Reemys2026-01-27 20:42

The story is just lame. Third episode in the row we are just being shown how strong Charlie is. This is not written by a talented writer and, ultimately, is simply not worth the time of experienced viewers. There are better stories out there.

SirusRiddler2026-01-28 01:33

Are you dropping it then?

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 09:53

Probably gonna watch some battle shonen with normal human dudes who are stronger than Charlie for no logical reason!

[](#urbansmile)

Andreiyutzzzz2026-01-27 21:08

"you called me?" cracked me up

luistincher2026-01-27 21:23

Sub Or Dub?

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:53

Sub, the dub is nice, but they talk too slow for me

HolyDragSwd25002026-01-28 14:08

Frieren as Charlie

All For One as ALA leader

Sub

Ashteron2026-01-27 22:09

I don't feel like a being that is sentient, intelligent and capable of verbal communication with humans would be in such legal limbo in real world. I'm pretty sure treating him as a legal entity would prevent situations that aren't considered by law. Even if that wasn't the case, given his popularity it probably would be easy for his mom to make a TV appearance here and there, higlight the problem and attract attention of famous people and politicians.

travis-2026-01-28 00:53

i love this show but man is it hard to watch. its just constant bad thing after bad thing happening to him. there is nothing good coming out of each episode.

Embarrassed_Hair12942026-01-28 01:04

Crazy that charlie could casually bend metal bars like it's nothing. Bro could lift cars if he grew up to being an adult. Or more if he decides to work out and gain more muscles. Mainly muscles that helps him climb, lift, grip, and more aka a rock climber physique. Since charlie already has that pre built in his dna what would charlie become once he trained his muscles to be built like a god?

LordVaderVader2026-01-28 01:54

Monke

JJVM992026-01-28 03:34

It hurts even more to see Charlie treated so horribly seeing how kind he is (to an almost unbelievable level). With the children and the cops even in the middle of the panic he still didn’t kill anyone even though he was a child who should be unable to control his emotions. With the terrorists he could have just decided to kill them based on some of the ways he has spoken of threats in the past yet he still chose to have them turn themselves in. But what showed his kindness the most imo was him saying all beings are unique, just the way he said it felt truly kind. Overall episode did a really good job making me sympathize with Charlie and root for him to be treated equally.

Also this episode was prime ACAB material, fuck the sheriff man. Just fuck him.

M4-C32026-01-28 03:39

Where the hell were the teachers at the pool?!?!?

LordVaderVader2026-01-28 03:50

Lmao that Police officer's hats leaving ICE in this scene

Arzhart2026-01-28 05:02

If they will treat Charlie like an object, they should be smarter and treat him like a dangerous weapon. There is a reason you try your best to be peaceful in a world with mutually assured destruction.

What I mean is: if a creature that CLEARLY can kill everyone on the jail and leave the time he wants, OPTED to be there until his friend called, MAYBE you should listen to him instead of being aggressive lol

NeverJustaDream2026-01-28 05:14

Anyone else get banana fish vibes from this show

moethelavagod2026-01-28 05:25

Am I off base for saying this was the strongest episode by far? I feel like the themes of veganism and police brutality were approached quite masterfully with Charlie's conversation with the ALA and with his legal designation as a piece of evidence after being taken into custody. I'm also warming up to the dub, even if Charlie's dad is absolutely sleepwalking through his performance. Anyway it was so cool to get such a good look into Charlie's head what with how he spoke with the ALA as well as the backstory with him in the pool. Really getting into this, already can't wait for next week

NoHead17152026-01-28 05:34

There's some irony here that the terrorist head actually treated Charlie as human for his escape to work, only for Charlie to be treated as an instrument for escape by the sheriff. There are always those who fear sentient beings different from ourselves and try to objectify them.

The case for Charlie's rights does make me wonder if this show will go the way of *Bicentennial Man* or end up as *Flowers for Algernon*?

Zetafunction642026-01-28 05:50

ok are they gonna make the relation between Charlie and Lucy romantic? because that would be, uhhh, something.

Roeclean2026-01-28 06:38

So since Charlie is technically an "object" that was all completely legal, right??

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theHugoat2026-01-28 09:52

First off FUCK THEM KIDS

Second.. THIS SHOW IS NOT AS POPULAR AS IT SHOULD BE!!!

Third… When Charlie’s mom was explaining his rights/citizenship stuff to Lucy why did that hit me extra hard because of what’s happening right now to immigrants in this country 😭😭

Poor Charlie bro. He’s just a little dude. The flashback of him cowering in fear/panic in the corner at the pool got to me. He was just a scared little kid. It’s crazy that as the viewer I WORRY for what will happen to him as the story unfolds, yet the final scene when he breaks out he’s as stoic and calm as ever.

Every episode of this stresses me out I hope he never reaches a “breaking point”. 12 out of 10 anime so far man got me talking about him like he’s an IRL person lol

Kuoliibk2026-01-28 14:19

I genuinely wonder if the author is aware of American history. Lucy just realising she's been taking her rights for granted was laughable to me considering how minorities have historically been treated.