Shibou Yuugi de Meshi wo Kuu. • Shiboyugi: Playing Death Games to Put Food on the Table

Shibou Yuugi de Meshi wo Kuu. • Shiboyugi: Playing Death Games to Put Food on the Table - Episode 4 discussion

*Shibou Yuugi de Meshi wo Kuu.*, episode 4

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Aerodynamic412026-01-28 15:52

So Chie is like that one guy in the group who didn’t contribute anything to the assignment but still wants to claim credit.

Togglea2026-01-28 18:07

About time something happens to that person /s

Falsus2026-01-28 20:06

Well she carried Kotoha, so that was enough to not get a vote from her I guess.

PinkPrincess31762026-01-28 20:42

I mean Chie's only fault was the fact that she was too good at Rock Paper Scissors lol. I feel super bad for her though, she seemed kinder to Yuki than all the others (even Kotoha) at first. I didn't like Keito though, Kotoha didn't either, Chie would have been fine if she had voted for Keito instead.

IXajll2026-01-28 22:33

Yea, I‘m honestly a bit mad that Chie had to die instead of Mishiro, I can’t stand her at all.

OtherwiseProgrammer92026-01-28 23:15

Is that why Mishiro voted for Chie? because she was kinder to yuki?

That could have been the deciding factor for her choosing between Chie and Keito

N0rTh3Fi5t2026-01-29 03:02

Maybe, but i think she was just trying to play the game. She doubted anyone would pick Yuki because she was clearly the most important and single handedly saved multiple people. With her preferred choice out and her life in real danger, she voted for the person she thought others were most likely to vote for. She lacked information on the exchanges after they were separated, so it essentially came down to a guess between the 2. That's why she apologized in the end. She realized she only survived by pure chance, which is not a position she should have been in if she was as good as she thought she was.

szalhi2026-01-28 15:53

*[Oh look, Jigsaw's here.](https://i.imgur.com/fnbLuvZ.jpeg)*

*[RNG at its finest.](https://i.imgur.com/OEeFAgE.jpeg)*

melindypants2026-01-28 18:08

The wolf was so creepy

kwokinator2026-01-28 20:42

> Oh look, Jigsaw's here.

More like AU Freddy Fazbear.

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-28 15:59

Looks like Yuki’s made a new rival. I know Yuki said she was just teasing or whatever, but the girl needed to be humbled. At least she survived in the end. Can’t say the same for Chie. These death games always got a little surprise in the end eh? Wouldn’t be a proper death game without one.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:42

> I know Yuki said she was just teasing or whatever, but the girl needed to be humbled

Hopefully it doesn't come back to bite her in the ass...

This made me think of a certain 90s gangster movie in which some trash gangster kills the MC at the end of the movie as revenge for "being humbled" earlier!

[](#spooked)

It's the 2nd non-optimal move from Yuki, that and 'voting randomly' (which could've cost her her life!)

I thought she would always be strategical, cold and calculated, but it seems she might be a bit of a chaos enjoyer as well!

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 21:39

Antagonizing Mishirio is pretty much guaranteed to backfire later.

"I got humbled by a person I hate, but they were right to humiliate me! We should be friends now." Is... just **not** how human psychology works.

Even if Yuki didn't directly poke the bear, Ego is a real b!tch. People can, and will, hate you just for 'making them look bad' even if you didn't go out of your way to step on their toes.

The only way to bring someone as proud as Mishiro around would require Yuki to avoid a direct confrontation and gain her respect without breaking her pride.

"I touched the softest part of her heart and felt her drive me back." Yeah, that was an *intimate* moment for Yuki, but it was an existential threat for Mishiro. You just can't attack the fundamental core of a person's self worth and not expect them to hate you.

thisisdropd2026-01-28 16:03

Turned out Yuki's a big softie, and that threat was just her winding Mishiro up. Having said that, I didn't expect the latter to learn her lessons, and even bowed before the former. Thought she'd be a bitch to the very end.

Yeah the final hurdle was a cruel one, handing your fate to your fellow players. That's a lot more diabolical than the standard traps.

Proj3ctBunny2026-01-28 16:12

Not sure Yuki can be called a "softie". She only saves people when it doesn't cost her anything. And in this case specifically, she wanted the vote in her favor. the more people she saved in this game, the less likely she would be the one voted off.

Seeing as how they all knew each other prior to this game, this was almost certainly the only path for her to survive.

Sure, Yuki isn't mean or evil. but I feel like calling her a "big softie" implies a lot of things that she certainly isn't.

LowraAwry2026-01-28 17:07

If anything, it kinda showed a sadistic streak in Yuki.

Falsus2026-01-28 20:10

Yeah. Like Yuki acted mean and teasing because she was simply attracted to Mishiro. Whereas regular Yuki wouldn't have done all that extra and just saved her. She definitely has a hidden sadistic side to her. The attraction was even foreshadowed from the very start where she was staring at Mishiro's hair and got caught off guard by her.

InsomniaEmperor2026-01-28 16:06

Chie being the one who dies was not on my bingo card. I liked her design. You’d think the asshole gets voted out. And Yuuki didn’t have any reason to vote her. They really had to show her melted state with only her clothes left behind. Whatever killed her was brutal.

So Mishiro gets out alive and actually apologizes to Yuuki, albeit reluctantly. Poor car seat became a punching bag. She said she’s playing again so I hope we see her again cause she’s got quite a back story.

Huh so everyone has a handler in these games. Would like to know more about Yuuki’s handler.

This game had less of the Saw factor as the first but we got a Jigsaw show up and speak to the players. The best chance of survival is for everyone to work together to the end, then somebody gets voted to be executed. Good thing Yuuki kept Mishiro alive.

Namaryu2026-01-28 16:18

It astonishes me how supsenseful the whole show is despite being so slow with lingering frames and sequence of Mishiro slowly walking towards the screen but it just works. I would say that in comparison to the first game this felt more deliberate and players could have figured out the rules before it was too late. Even audience would not have given any thought to their clothes but a veteran like Yuki can easily tell all is important.

These games or rather the structure of the story seems to mimic the social behaviours that are employed by people and an allegory to group project may be used here. The one that lost was the only person that did absolutely nothing other than jumping from one person to another when needed but that is unfilfilling in both the silly project and real life so she was exiled.

This game felt deliberately crafted to showcase what Mishiro lacks and to illustrate Yuki's philosophy. The leader needs to not only be able to make a path for others to follow but it can't simply walk over their bodies to victory. In that situation she would not only lose trust but the project or anything would either be half-baked or simply uninished and that's a no go in society. So she deserved that humbling.

Well onwards to the next game!

BosuW2026-01-28 22:09

I think the point of the narrative is that all games are deliberately crafted around a theme and it should be possible to figure them out based on the entertainment it could provide to the audience. I believe this is how Yuuki figures out what to do.

The previous game may have felt less deliberate because that one was actually super fucked up. While this game was possible to complete with all Players save the one they would vote out at the end, the first one was crafted to incite severe animosity between the group in a set of challenges that forced them to sacrifice one of them every step of the way. It only didn't turn into an outright blood bath because of Yuuki's relatively calming presence.

Golden_Phi2026-01-29 00:57

There were a lot of minimalist shots this episode, but they never feel out of place. The major one being the shot of Yuki after she was pushed down by Mishiro. I think they add to the atmosphere of the show.

I picked up that the clothes were ill suited for this game's setting. I thought that it was fan service for the in world audience rather than it being actually relevant.

CrimsonGear802026-01-29 05:21

all the minimalist shots remind me of the game Signalis, which employed the same techniques.

ChoiceSupermarket2302026-01-28 16:30

Definitely my favorite anime of this season. There's nothing I can particularly complain about and atmosphere works.

shad792026-01-28 16:38

So [Mishiro](https://imgchest.com/p/n87wqd55z7x) survived [today's episode](https://imgchest.com/p/a8466wbbw4x) and the entire game. I can't say I'm a fan of hers; honestly, I didn't like her at all, but her survival means [Yuki](https://imgchest.com/p/m9yxdrap34q) might encounter her again in a future game, which would be quite interesting, considering [their (kinda love-hate) relationship](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/1155f9e96574.png).

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

* [Yuki](https://imgchest.com/p/m9yxdrap34q)
* [Mishiro](https://imgchest.com/p/n87wqd55z7x)
* [Group scenes](https://imgchest.com/p/a8466wbbw4x)
* [Others](https://imgchest.com/p/dl7p5emm6yo)

good_wolf_19992026-01-28 18:22

>their (kinda love-hate) relationship

I guess Yuki likes toxic relationships since the love comes from her side, Mishiro feels nothing but hatred and rivalry for her

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 21:17

That scene where Mishiro apologized... Yuki had her hands behind her back and her hip cocked to the side: a clearly flirty stance. Combined with her earlier admission... yeah, poor Yuki is warped in the head if she is actually crushing on someone as toxic as Mishiro.

This is a woman that jeopardized the entire group just to aggro Yuki, out of petty jealousy, and drove her out in what Mishiro could only think was a death sentence (going it alone with fewer supplies).

And Yuki is... flirting with the woman that swore a blood oath against her?

BosuW2026-01-29 00:39

Ive been saying since episode 1 that Yuuki does it for the love of the game 🙏😤

towardselysium2026-01-29 01:02

Okay but have you considered that Mishiro is fun to tease and is clearly easily triggered? I think Yuki likes passion since she doesn't really have any strong emotions herself.

captainfluffy252026-01-29 02:45

I did NOT expect yuri in this series but I’ll fucking take it. Especially toxic yuri.

DariusDarkirus2026-01-28 21:35

Yuki is very toxic, too. She said that "now that she had touched her soft spot, she began to feel affection." Basically, Yuki likes a person who is falling apart in front of her and keeps picking at the wound. Ultimately, Mishiro's rejection of Yuki is what made her like her even more. I hypothesize that she likes people depending on her, and even more so when someone who tries hard not to depend on her ends up having to.

BosuW2026-01-29 00:47

Toying with a vulnerable girl yet panicking as soon as they leave is classic sadistic prince behavior. I'm surprised but compelled.

ShawnHeatherly2026-01-28 19:02

If I had to guess, Yuki's 99th game will end up being a bunch of players from her past who already know what she's capable of.

HarshTheDev2026-01-28 19:30

Yeah, and i feel like we are only going to be shown specific games and not all of them with each one having 1 standout survivor.

ActiveAd49802026-01-28 16:46

I wonder why those agents seems to panic and cry at the end.

Gaporigo2026-01-28 16:57

Seems they each are in charge of a girl and do have relationships of some sort.

GrouchoSnarks2026-01-28 17:04

The eyepatch on Yuki's made me think that the agents might be former players.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:35

When we saw Yuki and her agent, I thought... Family?

(It could be "family" AND "former player"...)

Because yeah I don't really see former players/agents being THAT invested in their girl, to pounce on the door like a madman and cry over them...

Significant_Glass_502026-01-29 00:05

I might me mistaken, but aren't those sunglasses? All agents seem to wear them

AceSoldia2026-01-28 17:12

Yeah it definitely seems they either know them outside the game or get assigned the same people if they play again

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:36

I haven't seen others mention it so far, but my first thought was 'Family'...

I don't see an agent getting that emotionally invested, even if they've been with them a couple times.

master_inho2026-01-29 07:03

If the agent's success/survival is tied to their player's survival, they could absolutely be that emotionally invested. And even if it wasn't, i think they can still form an emotional connection once the player has survived a few games, because then the agent has hope that their player can survive the next game too

ImperialDane2026-01-28 17:15

Well by the looks of Mishiro and her own agent. Guessing that the Agent crying into Chies.. err. Pillowstuffing probably had grown connected to her and was distraught at her loss.

Aksudiigkr2026-01-28 20:29

Pretty disturbing that the drug they went to pains to acquire was so brutal

Taedirk2026-01-28 18:48

Given the interaction with Mishiro and her person on the drive home, I'm thinking Agent may be more akin to Talent Agent than just being the cleanup crew.

mrsomeawe2026-01-28 22:30

Yuki's agent is shown at the end of EP1, the agents definitely work with the players, rather than the organizer of the game.

Like how a professional athlete's agent works with/for the athlete, rather than their team or the league they play in.

OtherwiseProgrammer92026-01-28 23:19

The agents are playing pokemon nuzlocke

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 16:54

Guess I should've seen Chie's death coming what with her being the one who made a pact that should've kept her safe. It makes sense in hindsight.

Did not expect Yuki to vote for all four of them. That's why she was collecting those papers from the dead girl's backpack and the others'. I can understand that from her POV they were all equally useless when it came to beating the game but was there any logical reason for voting for everyone and gambling on who her vote lands on? Like, what's the advantage to her in doing so?

Interesting to see that they all have individual agents and some of the agents at least care about the girls they represent. Seeing Chie's agent break down and hug her foamy remains was quite sad.

And Yuki's agent looks suspiciously like her - could it be her sister?

I liked Mishiro's agent right away. Her understanding of Mishiro and the way she mildly trolled her was very cool. Love her character design too. Hope we see more of her in the future.

Yuki really wasn't lying about anything she told them at the start. Her combat skills really are something if she can beat that beast with just a knife. I do wonder though - are their injuries healed after the game by some special means? Yuki got stabbed by Mishiro and attacked by the beast. Will she get some special treatment that heals her completely? Has to be if she's gone through this sort of thing before (she said as much when the beast attacked her) and continues to play. Does that mean Mishiro's arm will grow back before we see her again? Or will she get some fancy high end prosthetic arm?

So many questions. But all that apart, another excellently directed episode with impeccable sound design. If there's an award for best sound design in anime, this one should win hands down.

This was the episode I felt most invested in yet. Slowly starting to get a hang of Yuki's character too. Can't wait to see more. Will we go forwards or backwards next?

Kuro_Canary2026-01-28 17:07

I think that Yuki voted for all four of them so that she could view it as not having accountability for someone's death. Since all 4 names were selected on the ballot, it would be up to the showrunners to interpret her vote meaning whoever they choose wouldn't technically be Yuki's fault.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 17:20

Ah could be. Although she admits it was her vote that decided Chie's fate eventually anyway.

True_Indigo2026-01-28 18:28

Only because Yuki's vote alone could have killed any of them except for Mishiro.

We know who Kotoha, Keito, and Mishiro voted for. We know Yuki didn't vote for herself and can assume the same for Chie given her surprise.

| | For Yuki | For Mishiro | For Kotoha | For Keito | For Chie
|---|:----:|:-------:|:------:|:-----:|:----:|
Yuki | | (X+) | (X+) | (X+) | X+ |
Mishiro | | | | | X |
Kotoha | | | | X | |
Keito | | | X | | |
Chie | ? | ? | ? | ? | |

We know that Yuki voted with the original papers so her votes carried more weight, so Chie's vote was meaningless as any possible vote of her could not have swayed the outcome.

The only case where Yuki's vote doesn't decide the loser, is when Mishiro comes up **if** Chie doesn't also vote for Mishiro.

good_wolf_19992026-01-28 18:13

If that was the case then is an interesting contrast to how by game 28 (the first episode) she didn’t thought twice about killing someone herself just to clear the game.

LowraAwry2026-01-28 18:18

I think it's because, since it just doesn't matter which one you choose as long as it's not your own name, there's no reason for Yuki to pick one in particular. She knows she's responsible since she included Chie's name (she could have omitted it for whatever reason) but she legit doesn't care. She didn't strike any alliances and no other name comes at the cost of her own life. It's less about accountability and more about the lack of need to pick and choose.

MinnWild92026-01-28 17:14

They did show Mishiro scouting prosthetic arms and what appeared to be her in pain as they attached it, so it seems like there’s no special or magical means of healing injuries after a game. I imagine a portion of whatever money you earn for winning a game is used to get you back whole.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 17:22

Oh, when do they show this? At the very end? I thought I saw some other scenes spliced with her letting loose in the car, but couldn't quite tell what they were. Some were flashbacks to what happened in the game, didn't realise we were shown some future scenes too.

LowraAwry2026-01-28 17:26

The scenes continue during closing credits.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 17:29

Just went back and checked. Was too focused on reading the subtitles that I missed this the first time around. It really is a deranged world where these girls would go back over and over and play games that leave them maimed.

True_Indigo2026-01-28 18:36

I mean, sure... but the world is already in a state where playing death games is legal and televised so I wouldn't say this is where I would draw the line for it being derranged.

MinnWild92026-01-28 17:29

After that, where they pull up to the shed and the agent says “If it was going to frustrate you this much, you shouldn’t have apologized”. Right after the slide turned to 33/33

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 17:33

Yup yup, went back and found it.

LeonKevlar2026-01-28 17:33

They can still reattach it if they can retrieve your limbs. I imagine the wolf already ate Mishiro's arm, so it's a prosthetic for her.

runevault2026-01-28 18:03

Not necessarily. Yuki expressly said in episode 1 they can reattach limbs after the game during the conversation where they were preparing to take off limbs to go on the elevator. As another person mentioned odds are more the wolf ate her arm.

LowraAwry2026-01-28 17:22

>Yuki got stabbed by Mishiro

Was she? I thought Mishiro simply shoved Yuki and kinda dropped her knife in the process of it before she started running in a panic. It would make sense, but Mishiro looked so frustrated, like she only wanted to escape her presence if anything.

>Will she get some special treatment that heals her completely?

I think yes, just like Mishiro visits her agent's place that has all those medicinal accessories, Yuki's must have a similar one to fix her up.

BaytaCosmico2026-01-28 17:32

> I thought Mishiro simply shoved Yuki and kinda dropped her knife in the process of it before she started running in a panic.

There's a distinct stabbing/blood spurting sound effect that seems to suggest she stabbed her. Hard to say though because she doesn't seem to be hurt much when we see her next. Though that preservation treatment would kick in and prevent much blood loss either way, so who knows?

LowraAwry2026-01-28 17:42

>There's a distinct stabbing/blood spurting sound effect that seems to suggest she stabbed her

I thought it Yuki falling on the floor tbh or one of the paddles, since we only see the knife on the floor even while Yuki looks frozen by the turn of events.

>Though that preservation treatment would kick in and prevent much blood loss either way, so who knows?

Yeah, either way there would be no blood loss at all, since they're cotton inside while playing, most we would see is stuffing falling out.

Gaporigo2026-01-28 16:58

Oh nice, we getting someone besides MC to appear more than once?

But this show, had me thinking for two episodes "Eh, MC will just vote multiple times" just for that to not be allowed x)

melindypants2026-01-28 18:22

I'm so happy they decided to make a rival for Yuki...hopefully we see her sooner rather than later. I wonder if they'll be more encounters with other girls we have seen too! And if Yuki wants to beat 99 games, I'm curious how Mishiro will do it.

Ugh this anime is so good and mysterious - it's definitely a unique vibe

dominator55002026-01-28 19:38

Judging by the previous episode, I think one of the upcoming games is Candle Woods which happens before 10. Scrap building.
I wonder if the 4th game of this season (potentially last game?) will the one where Mishiro returns.

I hope this anime gets new seasons, cuz it's fucking awesome.

Magnafeana2026-01-28 17:03

>I…*liked* that stuck up girl.

>took my breath away

>I thought she was…***cute***

>I like you!

🤸🏾‍♀️💃🏾🏳️‍🌈

I love how dramatic yuri is. Sapphics never beating the allegations (am also sapphic, can confirm) 😭

🫢

Toxic yuri, let’s fucking ***gooooooo!***

***

The mind games being played. I loved the ED visuals, but I have so many questions about these death games and the fractions that flicker on the screen. Sometimes, I feel like there’s a few former Shaft animators working on this (compliment).

Now I’m gonna be impatient for the next time this toxic yuri ship meets in the death games.

Poor Chie though and that agent who will now mourn her 🥀

maliwanag07122026-01-28 17:07

> I love how dramatic yuri is.

The series is already great but this made it better HAHAHA

yahalloh2026-01-28 17:04

TIL special ballot papers used in japan elections. Interesting!

https://japan.yupo.com/english/product/use/specialty/election/

Golden_Phi2026-01-29 01:15

It was obvious that the paper was going to be really important with how much focus it got. Although I would've never guessed how it was going to be used in play.

Kotoha knew from the start from the clothes and paper. Mishiro even noted in the first episode of this game that it was unusual for her to volunteer like that. Kotoha was trying to earn points.

maliwanag07122026-01-28 17:06

That last scene when the agent goes to Chie's room just to see her in full cotton is so brutal that the actual killing needs not to be shown to see what happened.

Well, it seems that Yuki got a new rival huh? I wonder what will happen in the next game. Will they immediately meet again or nah?

Cameo672026-01-28 19:54

Yeah the show is still rated PG13, i guess the cotton allows that

BosuW2026-01-28 22:54

Hold up, thats why in universe of the cotton too! Lower rating means more audience!

Muffin-zetta2026-01-29 01:44

Yeah they explained that in episode 1

Aksudiigkr2026-01-28 20:29

I don’t get how a drug was supposed to do that but it’s awful

LakerBlue2026-01-28 21:28

I’m trying to figure it out too. I guess the has made her melt into a bloody pile?? Hard to believe that was instant.

I’m thinking of not for the preservatives she’d have been a puddle of blood.

BosuW2026-01-29 00:19

Actually this makes me believe it was relatively quick more. The most lethal poisons we can produce are nerve agents, which still take a handful of minutes to kill you.

This rather feels like they used their futuristic technology to produce something that would ensure complete annihilation. For such a goal, being fast as possible is desired.

Enochian_Devil2026-01-28 21:21

Honestly, I think the cotton somehow makes it more brutal. I don't know what the drug did or what is blood and what is flesh.

The implications are more horrific than seeing it uncensored.

BanterBoat2026-01-29 01:08

I imagine it's a danganronpa situation where the gore being cartoonish is a stylistic choice

NeneThomas2026-01-29 03:32

That shot of a huge mound of cotton and Chie's hair bow and dress laying one it has me absolutely shook.

It's amazing that the story has made a pile of fluffy white cotton be so horrifying.

1832vini2026-01-29 06:16

Makes me curious, why is the agent crying? Who are those agents?

thought the agents would be employed by the game master. But MC's agent looks very similar to her with the silver hair

master_inho2026-01-29 06:33

They seem to play a similar role to agents that represent actors and other celebs. Maybe they are employed by the game master(s), but spend enough time with their player and they can form a deeper connection. Or maybe their own success/survival hinges on their player surviving the games

VoidRay7282026-01-28 17:06

Surprised that Keito and Kotoha didn't vote for Mishiro. Unfortunately Chie only needs to get 2 votes if three other people are getting 1 vote each. We don't know who Chie voted for and Yuki is basically voting random. So she's kinda right that it could've been any of them. Poor Chie.

Willing-Ad-7872026-01-28 17:07

I really want to know how chie dieee. Someone please tell me

YusiP2026-01-28 17:47

The announcer said they would release a drug into the voted player’s room. I didn't expect the drug to melt her entire body though.

AceSoldia2026-01-28 17:10

Are you for real girl?!..we got a legendary level hater. I'm gonna play a death game again and again just to prove I'm better than the girl that saved my life.

🤣. What ridiculous behavior

For her this was the most horrible day of her life .for Yuki this shit was Tuesday

Mistral-Fien2026-01-28 19:24

Getting upstaged is the worst affront for a prideful girl like Mishiro, She's never been humiliated so much and definitely wants revenge.

Falsus2026-01-28 20:20

Well she did beat her little sister, potentially to death, for some reason so her illogical actions makes sense.

ImperialDane2026-01-28 17:16

Mishiro lived. Chie got turned into Pillowstuffing. So the paper was definitely a clue, but so were the dresses. Did not see that one coming. But looks like a Rivalry has been established.

Curious to see what the next episode will be about.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:48

> Curious to see what the next episode will be about.

*Me hoping we're going even MORE back in time, for the wood game or whatever that one was, that they were talking about*

[](#mugiwait)

SSjjlex2026-01-29 02:08

You know how people like to put their relative's ashes into necklaces and stuff like that?

Introducing the death-game girl body pillow made from 100% authentic dead death-game girl pillow stuffing!

Would make a killing selling those (literally and figuratively)

Makicola2026-01-29 04:26

Oh god.

Yuuki daki gonna sell.

KumaKumaGambler2026-01-28 17:16

Assuming everyone were honest with their answers:

Yuki - wrote all 4 names of the other girls
Mishiro - voted Chie
Keito - voted Kotoha
Kotoha - voted Keito
Chie - if she kept her promise to Kotoha, she would not have voted for Kotoha or herself, and given her acquaintance with Mishiro and Keito, she would have most likely voted for Yuki.

Hence:

Chie received 1 + possibly Yuki's randomly counted vote
Keito received 1 + possibly Yuki's randomly counted vote
Kotoha received 1 + possibly Yuki's randomly counted vote
Yuki received 1 vote
Mishiro received possibly Yuki's randomly counted vote

So it could have been either Chie, Keito or Kotoha who got killed / eliminated?

LowraAwry2026-01-28 17:51

>So it could have been either Chie, Keito or Kotoha who got killed / eliminated?

Yeah, if Chie voted for Yuki and not Mishiro, and then according to the rules it seems like from Yuki's ballots the game masters opened the one that had Chie's name first.

Esovan132026-01-28 18:10

I think Mishiro would have died as well if she was the one Yuki's vote landed on. Because if the vote landed on Mishiro, it would have been a complete tie, but since Yuki had the original ballots, her vote would have counted more and been the tie breaker (unless she happened to write Mishiro's name on the ballot she got from the drawer rather than the other three).

So really, everyone except Yuki could potentially have been voted out depending on who got Yuki's vote.

Cameo672026-01-28 20:19

Yeah yuki was basically the odd woman out at the beginning, and at the end, she was the safest

I wonder if chie voted for mishiro because she agreed with yukis decisions earlier on

BosuW2026-01-28 22:20

Keito and Chie tripped Mishiro on the rope and ran when the wolf appeared. It would be suuuuper awkward (to put it mildly) if this group of pro Gamers were to encounter her again in the future, so I think there's a decent chance the group grasshopper would want to be rid of her.

Cameo672026-01-28 20:10

Yeah seems like anybody could’ve gone because of yukis vote, it was basically up to the system at that point to be the deciding factor

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:30

I'm honestly VERY surprised that Yuki voted randomly (assuming she told the truth);

She's highly strategical and values her life above others (though she's willing to RISK herself to save others, that's not the same thing, she does it for a benefit).

Voting at random could cost her her life, for no benefit at all!

It's so strange, that I'm strongly considering to headcanon this one as "She was lying to avoid saying who she voted for"...

But I'm not sure how that's more benefitial than simply saying she voted for the one who died (and is unlikely to keep grudges!), unless she thinks 'preserving an appearance of unbiased fairness' is what she's going for!

zzzzzooted2026-01-28 21:03

I don’t think it’s out of character tbh

She clearly has a set of rules to prevent her from *feeling* like she has blood on her hands (such as killing whoever is closest to her so she doesn’t have to actually make any decisions), I think this is just an extension of that. She didn’t choose who died, fate and randomness did, so the blood is not on her hands still by her logic

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 21:17

Sure, but the difference between this and 'Killing Kinko because she's closer' is that killing Kinko didn't change anything;

Voting randomly here could change a lot; Yuki could die for it.

jnads2026-01-29 02:41

I think you're missing the fact that since Yuki knew it was a voting game (as Mashiro says), she manipulated everyone.

Yuki always was the "out" member of their group. They had all played together before (as mentioned in Ep2). They were "friends". If Yuki solved the maze separately, Yuki would die.

Yuki helped Kotoha and knew Kotoha wouldn't vote for her.

Yuki helped Keito after the monster attack and knew Keito wouldn't vote for her.

Then Yuki went back for Mashiro and manipulated her into not voting for her.

Chie was the only one she didn't help, and that didn't matter. She left it to random chance to leave herself a clean conscience.

Yuki didn't care which of her votes counted, she just knew she wasn't getting 2 votes.

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 21:28

Yuki was already 'safe,' though. She had saved the lives of two others and the hangers-on were *very* grateful to see her after they ditched Mishiro.

She knew from the start this would be a popularity contest, so she positioned herself as 'useful' by saving others.

Yuki did antagonize Mishiro, who had been aggressively towards Yuki from the start, so it wasn't out of the question that Mishiro would vote for Yuki out of spite...

But it was likely going to be one of the two lackeys that drew the short stick here. And between the two, Chie was never seen taking point or otherwise contributing to the group.

Which is a fun little subversion of hte first game, now that I think about it. The pink haired girl only survives because the red head thought she was cute... and 'eye candy' is about the only thing Chie contributed over the last few episodes.

So "Big boobs and a pretty face" saved Pinkie from the first game, but they didn't save Chie in this one XD. Otherwise, neither contributed anything.

As for the rest, it circles back to Yuki's defense mechanisms. Her calculus said she was in the clear, so the next step was to avoid guilt.

We actually don't know who Chie voted for. She could have voted for Keito, but then Yuki's vote for Chie was on an original ballot (thus breaking the tie). Yuki knew there would be a vote at the end, kept her own paper, and scavenged one off the dead girl iirc. If possible, or necessary, she would have used her additional papers to throw someone under the bus. But after saving two people she knew she was in the clear for survival. How can someone that saved two members the group had abandoned be the 'least useful?'

It's left ambiguous, and that's the point. Yuki doesn't want to know who is really responsible for killing Chie, and so the episode leaves it at that.

rom8462026-01-29 01:18

>How can someone that saved two members the group had abandoned be the 'least useful?

Don't forget that voting for the least useful is only a suggestion the rational thing to do is to vote for the one that you think the others are voting for. That way you minimize the odds to be voted out yourself. Mishiro open contempt for Yuki would be a clear signal to the other to bandwagon against her. Only by earning the clear sympathy of Kotoha she could escape that logic, because that broke that coalition.

OldInstruction53682026-01-29 01:39

Either way, she saved the lives of two people. That's two people that will struggle to put Yuki's name on the paper. It takes a special type of bastard to try and kill the one who just saved your life.

Then there is the "what happens in the NEXT game?" argument. As Yuki said in the first episode, her strategy is pragmatic altruism. She helps people survive so that if they meet again, they have a good impression of her and will be cooperative.

While she never explicitly stated that in this round, everyone knows Yuki put herself at risk, literally solo'ed a Dire Wolf, just to help others survive. Nor did she escalate with Mishiro, not in front of the others, at least. She endured those provocations as long as she could before bailing... with the crippled everyone else abandoned in toe.

Again, they abandoned Kotoha, and Yuki saved her. They then abandoend Mishiro... and Yuki saved her. Hell, they even abandoned Yuki as no one spoke up as she left the group... and I keep stressing this point, she didn't just leave and survive, but she left, saved the abandoned cripple, AND survived.

There is a whole lot of guilt here. Enough that even Mishiro couldn't make herself vote for Yuki. The rest probably didn't even consider it.

It was clear that Yuki was the MVP for this game while Mishiro largely floundered. She got humbled by Yuki, nearly got her own self killed, and whose pride was going to get Chie/Keito taken out if she didn't trip over herself first.

So why take out a veteran, highly competent, and pro-social player? Maybe you play with her in another game, maybe she bails you out there as well.

Better vote for one of the useless people, like Chie or Keito, or someone that screwed up so royally they needed to be bailed out, such as Kotoha or Mishiro. I really can't stress this enough, but every girl, other than Yuki, was either dead weight or screwed up royally... and needed Yuki to save her.

Which is why every girl may have voted for someone else, excepting for Yuki, leaving her vote as the sole tiebreaker regardless of which ballot was opened first.

mianghuei2026-01-28 17:16

[OK that toilet sign is genius](https://imgur.com/LrCGlAF)

ModieOfTheEast2026-01-28 17:19

Okay, so now that we had two games, I will write down my first ideas of the show. The visuals and sound design are stunning. Even when there is nothing happening, there is this tense feeling that something could happen at every corner. Similarly, the characters are interesting and their inner thoughts are portrayed in a way that allow for interpretation. It's not just told and there is room for development if some of those (like Mishiro will appear again later on).

The world is also interesting. Episode 1 already introduced the messed up setting and there are hints here and there that are given. Like how this episode, you can see that every player has its own personal agent that has some sort of emotional bond towards the player. Similarly, Kotoha's mentions last week can be taken as well, though this might also fit our general society. But then again there is this meta level to the show where we are the viewers and it will be interesting to see where it goes from here. Especially with the end there seeing that the characters are "rebuild" like dolls which adds the idea that maybe this whole conservation is only a lie and maybe they are just puppets? Or it's supposed to be a metaphor which I could also see.

Now where I think the show falls flat though is the games itself. I was giving the first game a bit of a pass because it was the introduction, but I think similar problems can be found in this one and that is just that the design feels kind of weird. The whole game was leading to the question who was the least valuable player and while that could be an interesting twist, I personally feel that the game before didn't really build towards it. There just wasn't much where players could do something to even become valuable. There were barely any traps after all. Now, one might say that this is kind of the point. Having a game where nearly no one can shine so it's hard to stand out. But then my question is why put 4 girls together that already know each other from before? That obviously makes this less of a question for just this game but their past experiences could influence the vote as well. It makes the whole deck being stacked against Yuki even more apparent. And while this is interesting to us who know that Yuki is the main character who we follow, would that really work for other viewers? They would need to know Yuki as well for that to work. I guess you can say that she is the underdog in that scenario, so there is some form of entertainment to see if the underdog can win, but the ending was about someone losing and not someone winning. The apology from Mishiro and her outburst at the end came after the game ended, so this is not something the viewers would see. That is for US. Unless, it really is just us being the viewers and everything is supposed to be part of the show. Which I am not sure if I like.

But there is also another issue with the games and those are the hints what will happen. Sure, there were hints that it would lead to a vote. But what about the times when the timer increased instead of decreasing in episode 2? What was that about? What was the point? You can't even say it was a distraction because the characters didn't notice. Which leads me to the belief that it was just an oversight by the animation team. And as said back in that thread, that is a big oversight, because the timer is an aspect that is shown all the time. So you are supposed to notice it. If they aren't able to keep that consistent, it's hard for me as a viewer to decide what is actually meant as a hint and what might just be mistakes. It reduces the anime from a series that can tell something with its visuals to being one where you can only trust the plain text.

One last thing I want to add regarding this second game. I would have loved to know what happens if no one votes. That would count as a vote for everyone, so a new vote could result in the same outcome if everyone keeps strong willed. How often would they have repeated that? It could have added an interesting element where the players have to trust one another to not vote for someone else. Also just in case, Yuki's vote could have counted extra because she didn't lose her paper, she could have just used the one in the drawer acting as if she lost hers as well. Point being, I would have loved to see someone ask that question, though I doubt this would have actually worked since they couldn't communicate anymore at this point.

All in all, I think there is some promise in this series, but I do think they need to make sure that the visuals actually work. In a show that relies so much on visuals and soundtrack, if there are errors, those would have a far greater impact than in any other show. So I hope this timer thing was just an accident and it won't happen again. Because then, the show could be something really special.

Esovan132026-01-28 18:28

>I would have loved to know what happens if no one votes.

The rules make that pretty clear. There would have been a runoff vote, where anyone who didn't tie would be taken off the list of potential candidates and the vote would have happened again. Since it would have been a tie with everyone, no one would be taken off the list. And then it would happen again. And then again. Until one player cracks, votes for someone else, and then the voting would end. I can imagine the game masters would be willing to let this happen as many times as necessary. Hell, they might love it. Imagine how exciting it would be for the viewers to see the voting play out time and again, guessing who will be the one to crack and make the deciding vote. And I didn't see any food or water in those rooms, so the voting probably wouldn't last longer than three days at most before the players die of thirst.

Although, getting all the players to agree to what is essentially a suicide pact would be pretty difficult to start with, so even if they came up with that plan, most likely some or all of the players would just pretend to agree to do that only to cast a vote anyway to maximize their own chance of survival.

ModieOfTheEast2026-01-28 18:41

I agree that this might be the most logical outcome. I just thought the idea would be interesting where the game masters say: "If no one votes anyone else 10 times in a row, no one would need to die." Obviously, from an outside perspective, this seems like it's clear what to do. Never vote. But everytime there is the chance that someone distrusts you. Especially if the game masters let them wait an hour for example, before they can cast the next vote so the girls would start to become exhausted sitting in this small chamber. Is Mishiro still holding a grudge for being left alone with the wolf? Is Kotoha still angry at Mishiro for her considering to abandon her? Can they actually trust Yuki who they don't know? It would have lead to an interesting moral dilemma, but for that, I guess it would have needed more dialogue scenes between them.

Esovan132026-01-28 18:53

I made a response to this comment in the source material corner. [Here is the link to my response.](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1qpd477/shibou_yuugi_de_meshi_wo_kuu_shiboyugi_playing/o296b86/) It doesn't have any spoilers, just a comparison between the anime and the novel.

ModieOfTheEast2026-01-28 19:03

Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up. Just wanting to say, I did not want to say that this aspect was something that I thought was a big issue, just that it would have given an interesting moral dilemma. But I didn't think that this ruined the game or anything. The timer problems in episode 2 were more problematic for example when it comes to this.

melindypants2026-01-28 18:35

I do wonder how randomly the games are assigned and why is it only women? The odds really were stacked against Yuki in this game.

Oh wow I didn't even notice...when did the timer increase in episode 2? Was it not when the girls split off or it showed a different perspective but a little bit in the past or something?

I do agree with you that with an anime that relies heavily on visuals and sound for details/interpretation, it is important to get them right BUT I've never been one to catch alot so it's a reason I love these discussions!

Also just an observation the poster shown in episode 2, along with the ballot paper reveal this episode, that there was going to be some kind of vote/agreement to kill someone, hence why there was a ghost ourside the boxes (rooms) with the little animals. I hope im remembering it right and maybe someone can add to that or correct me.

ModieOfTheEast2026-01-28 18:57

I remember one in particular and that was when the characters were having their introductions. When Mishiro introduces herself, the camera is behind her at one point (around 7:15) and you can see the time is 05:02:18 ticking down. Then the other characters introduce themselves. When it's Chie's turn, the camera shows all of them at the same time with the timer being visible (at around 8:07) now showing 05:02:28, still ticking down. Then, we have the rest of the introduction, Yuki introduces herself and the whole argument who the leader should be starts. We again get the shot from behind Mishiro (at around 9:06) and the timer is now showing 05:03:00 but still ticking down.

> I do wonder how randomly the games are assigned and why is it only women? The odds really were stacked against Yuki in this game.

A fried that I am watching this with made the observation that Yuki is always the "odd" one out. First game she was the only one with real experience and this game, the other players knew each other. So the question is if there is a focus on Yuki by the game masters already. Might be connected to her wanting to win 99 times. It could also be that the games are designed around one character. First game was around Yuki and her not wanting to sacrifice players but she has to. And this one around Mishiro and her not wanting to give up the leader role to Yuki. And the rest are picked to support this idea. This might get clearer with more games.

> Also just an observation the poster shown in episode 2, along with the ballot paper reveal this episode, that there was going to be some kind of vote/agreement to kill someone, hence why there was a ghost ourside the boxes (rooms) with the little animals. I hope im remembering it right and maybe someone can add to that or correct me.

I have also no idea what the animals were supposed to represent honestly. Since there were 6, I originally assumed them to be stand-ins for the characters and the ghost is either the one who is already dead or Yuki (because Mishiro calls her a ghost girl). Yuki could have also been the owl because she didn't need much light, but I have no idea about the others.

Furthermore, since there was actually a wolf in the game and there was a wolf sticker, maybe they were meant as hints on what lies ahead. But even then, I don't know what the other animals are supposed to be. Again, owl could be a hint that they don't have much light. Ghost that it is deadly, but like penguin, mouse or unicorn I have no idea. I also don't know what the significance was that some were inside a room and others weren't.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 21:09

> and why is it only women?

My first thought was "Girls are cute!" hah.

But if there IS a plot reason why it's only women...

- Perhaps the games are split between men and women
- Perhaps the viewers/bettors prefer to see women in these scenarios (I suppose that's a variant on "girls are cute!")

But while I would love for a lore explanation, well until they prove otherwise I'm gonna think it's just girls because it's a Cute Girls Doing Murderous Things!

[](#yuishrug)

melindypants2026-01-28 21:13

Ha I also thought the same thing but having a plot relevant reason would actually be pretty damn cool.

I'm loving the CGDMT genre though and could honestly go for more of it

runevault2026-01-28 17:21

So, not every game ends with a guaranteed death, but the first two we've been shown both included one. My biggest nit with the show gets even bigger seeing this, because while some of the girls got conned into joining (that one girl from episode 1), convinced to do it by whatever means (Mahiro), or whatever madness drives Yuki to shoot for 99 wins, but it is hard to believe 'normal' girls would join in enough numbers to flesh out the games with 6 players each based on what we've been shown so far when guaranteed death is not a total one-off.

Meanwhile, Yuki continuing to be smarter than everyone else in a believable way continues to be true, even 'only' 10 games in. She's such an interesting character I think I'm going to watch at least the start of the next arc in hopes it finds a way to make me less annoyed at my nits with the show.

BlazeKnightX2026-01-28 18:47

I mean the opening says this is a story about a deranged world or whatever. Like Kotoha stated everyone is weird now, that's why she wants to shut herself away from the world with the winnings. This world is probably running on some Purge, Hunger Games type logic where everyone knows this is just how the world works now and can't fight it since it's been engrained for so long. Like Danganronpa before the resistance fight starts.

OldGoldDream2026-01-28 18:48

It’s no mystery, even in the real world there are a lot of people very desperate for money willing to do incredibly dangerous things for it.

runevault2026-01-28 19:02

If there was any indication it paid out a lot of money I could buy that (say $500k USD level). Like the girl who got her legs blown off admitted she wants to retire young. But there is zero proof they are paying enough to go into a game where there is a real chance you have a 1/6 chance (or 50% in the case of episode 1) of dying even if you play perfectly.

If it was more like deep sea fishing in Alaska dangerous I'd understand. The guaranteed deaths without confirming a massive payday is where it gets suspect.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:57

I talked about it in a previous thread, but I don't even see that as unrealistic...

I'm **100% sure** this would get people to play in real life, if they pay enough. And I don't even mean like 'half a million'.

There are people with debts who'd do it, people who'd do it because "risking my life once is better than working a boring job for 2 years" (like the girl in the first game)...

[Trigger warning for sensitive topic]>!There's people who commit suicide all the time because they're in debts and don't see a way out. Playing a game that only has a CHANCE of getting them killed, to pay off their debts, would be a better option.!<

FWIW: I looked up statistics on Russian Roulette deaths, and (for obvious reasons) there's not a lot of details on this, but I've found studies that had between 20 and 70 confirmed deaths of Russian Roulette.

And I imagine most of those deaths aren't recorded as such, meaning they probably arrange this to make them look like something else, or simply 'disappears' the bodies, etc...

zool7142026-01-28 17:27

Still not sure if the cotton stuffing is the show’s way of censoring gore or if these girls are like dolls or something

AngelRefuse2026-01-28 17:36

It's already been explained that they get some sort of preservation treatment, but visually, it clearly represents that they're dolls being used as playthings by rich people.

Shadowmist9092026-01-28 17:34

I feel bad for Chie and her manager... I know the talking puppet said it'd be an instant death, but all that fluff looks brutal.

Mishiro's tantrum was well done... It's weird to think since it's a death game show, but i'll be glad to see her again.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:44

> It's weird to think since it's a death game show, but i'll be glad to see her again.

Same! She'll need to up her game if she wants to one-up Yuki though!

So far her life philosophy was "I'm the best and they'll bow down to me", but now she realized she's not the best... She even admitted it, which is a BIG deal.

So she might actually take the means to 'get there'...

Aksudiigkr2026-01-28 20:45

Did you watch somewhere besides Crunchyroll? On its subs they only mentioned the person would die, not that it’d be instant. And then after saying they went to great pains to get the drug, they said we hope you’ll savor it to your heart’s content.

I hope it was quick though

zzzzzooted2026-01-28 21:13

I think the dub mistranslates that, im p sure they said it was an instant death in english

Shadowmist9092026-01-28 21:33

Yeah, at 13 minutes the English dub adds a tidbit that it's an instantaneous death, while the sub just says they hope she savors it. Interesting difference.

FarCritical2026-01-28 17:35

I had a feeling the rule of votes using the original ballot paper having more power would've been a factor but for it to manifest through Yuki's strategy gave me the chills.

peron4eva2026-01-28 17:35

Kinda bugs me how unreliable the 'dangers' seem sometimes because of the treatment stuff. Minus the closed rooms maybe.

* Get attacked by a big wolf (a playing puppy seems more ferocious), its fine just shrug it off - OK
* Get exploded on mine, its fine just legs lost - OK'ish
* Fall on hole on the ground - DEAD
* Need to lose weight? just chop some limbs its fine you can catch them on the way out. - OK
* Get struck by an oddly precise small blade - DEAD

[yuki be like](https://preview.redd.it/0ma5tkn6y54d1.png?width=615&auto=webp&s=d2eff9024cd217d2c014145571bf947159ea4028)

runevault2026-01-28 17:48

Falling to your death isn't that crazy being lethal. The treatment prevents bleed-out deaths because upon contact with air it is a form of instant clotting just as cotton. That won't help with blunt force trauma destroying your brain for example.

Shmappii2026-01-28 17:47

It's cool how this arc ends up being Mishiro's introduction as a potential returning rival or love(?) interest. The death game premise has been brutal enough so far with removing characters that I hadn't considered a Mishiro that exists after the game until her survival is confirmed.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:44

> potential returning rival or love(?) interest

Murderous yuri, my favorite kind of romcoms

[](#delighted)

CommanderZx22026-01-29 00:14

Toxic yuri genre

edwardjhahm2026-01-29 00:15

It's confirmed now, Mishiro's my favorite character. I hope we get to see more of her, and that she doesn't die.

LBH123LBH2026-01-29 05:16

Same, I love how she didn't compromise when Yuki threatened her to save her life, but instead willingly apologized (and then threw a tantrum later) out of respect for her saving her as well as figuring out the voting procedure.

LeonKevlar2026-01-28 18:00

[Well, that's not what I was expecting from Yuuki.](https://i.imgur.com/xIdz44T.jpeg) So this entire time, she thought that Mishiro and her bossy attitude were cute. She didn't come back to antagonize her, she actually came back [to save her, even if she hadn't apologized.](https://i.imgur.com/R7iGCYM.jpeg) But Mishiro thought she was being serious, so she ran off.

[Yuuki 1v1-ing a wolf was pretty crazy.](https://i.imgur.com/HbNiE0l.jpeg) Interesting to note that we see the wolf bleed normally after Yuki stabbed. [She's even covered with its blood.](https://i.imgur.com/BeuErvq.jpeg) So I guess the preservation treatment is only given to the players. It's also interesting how Yuki was thinking ot not brutally killing the wolf [because the audience might disapprove.](https://i.imgur.com/I2KpWTX.jpeg) She really has this mindset that this is all a game show, even if it means life or death.

[We finally get to hear from one of the game's organizers.](https://i.imgur.com/se57O72.jpeg) I'm gonna guess this Wolf/Ookami (as he's credited in the ending), is gonna be a recurring character. I do love that they're using an actual wolf plushie that's being puppted and it's not animated or CG. That was pretty cute. Well, cute for a bunch of maniacs making girls play a death game for money.

[So Kotoha was spot on with her guess](https://i.imgur.com/UAUJIp2.jpeg) not just with the paper and the elections, [she was also spot on about their outfits.](https://i.imgur.com/ClwhSHR.jpeg) I guess we should also start paying attention to what the girls are wearing every game.

I genuinely thought Yuuki might have the advantage here since I remember she collected the paper from the first dead girl, and she had the backpack, so she would have most of the original paper. [Glad that the rules covered that](https://i.imgur.com/QmnaJf7.jpeg), and you can only vote with one paper. Although the original paper you started with has more weight in case of a tie.

Not gonna lie, I really thought Keito was gonna be voted out, but [she ended up surviving along with Kotoha and Mishiro.](https://i.imgur.com/XInFnKi.jpeg) When you think about it, it makes sense that Chie got voted out because she did the least. At least Keito was used to scout out traps. I can't even think of what she contributed to the group.

Interestingly, [it sounds like Yuuki used all of the paper she had to vote for everyone](https://i.imgur.com/OckGPaJ.jpeg), and I guess since Chie's name was the first one they saw, it's the one that counted. Yuuki didn't really intentionally vote for Chie, and since Mishiro voted for her too, Chie got the majority.

It's pretty cool to see how [each girl has their own handler.](https://i.imgur.com/RNnYg55.jpeg) It is heartbreaking to see [Chie's handler bang on the door](https://i.imgur.com/6QBRaqN.jpeg) and [grieving at her dissolved body.](https://i.imgur.com/B9HJT2A.jpeg) I guess this means that every player has the same handler for every game, and it wouldn't be surprising that some of them have formed a close bond. It's interesting how [Yuuki's handler looks like her.](https://i.imgur.com/uRzkmhq.jpeg) I wonder if her handler is someone related, like an older sister, maybe? Hmmm...

[I love the final scene of Mishiro going apeshit on the back of the car](https://i.imgur.com/3i1LPTe.jpeg) out of frustration. I guess we're gonna see more of her since she's pretty much declared Yuuki as her rival. I hope we get to see her [and her shiny new prosthetic arm in the future.](https://i.imgur.com/cHmb1y4.jpeg)

hammile2026-01-28 18:11

> I hope we get to see her and her shiny new prosthetic arm in the future.

Btw, we can see in this shot jars with eyes.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 21:05

> I guess we should also start paying attention to what the girls are wearing every game.

*"Is this one a fetish - maid outfits - or is there a death-game hint in there?"*

[](#bigthink)

>I guess this means that every player has the same handler for every game, and it wouldn't be surprising that some of them have formed a close bond. It's interesting how Yuuki's handler looks like her. I wonder if her handler is someone related, like an older sister, maybe?

Hah, glad not to be the only one who thought that! I'm not sure "a bond between agent and participant" would explain the complete breakdown we've seen...

So with this breakdown AND the similar looks, I'm thinking family!

FLorianGran2026-01-28 18:15

Funny how today's Oshi no Ko made the point that companies send women to sell stuff to other women so they feel comfortable and we see today that the contestants apparently all have women handlers

AnzoEloux2026-01-28 18:29

I think Yuki is actually a sociopath, like clinically. There's such a stark difference between her expectations of social interactions and the reality. I'm not entirely sure what's going on with her gaining affection for Ms Leader though... Maybe she just likes the thrill? I mean, what else kind of maniac strives for 99 games?

Mykaterasu2026-01-28 21:00

There's definitely some type of dissociation going on, she constantly switches from 1st and 3rd person as she shifts from in-game thoughts to narrator.

towardselysium2026-01-29 01:12

She understands but doesn't feel strong emotions like jealousy, pettiness, or probably even joy. Her reaction to getting shoved halfway across the floor was "Omg I touched a nerve. Yay!" And not "well screw you too" which probably means that she likes Ms Leader because of her tantrums

AlexxxandreS2026-01-28 18:36

I can't be the only one that thinks Kotoha voted for Chie right?

I just finished the episode and I'm not going back again just to double check, but when asked, Kotoha kinda hesitated and felt like she was lying when answering who she voted for...

Also, she is smart, so maybe that promise she made was just a plot to survive

2kenzhe2026-01-28 18:49

Ok and that's the end of the 10th game for Yuki.

Yuki really thought she was cute lol and decided to save her because of that. Even went out of her way to fight the wolf. She even had time to consider how to kill it. Would killing it too brutally displease the audience? She also noticed that they'll probably have to vote a player off from the start. Through this game, she really proved her superiority. I liked that Mishiro actually apologized but not when Yuki was teasing her but after the game was over. I like even better it was because she needed accept her loss now so that she can try to beat Yuki another time and she won't stop until she has beaten Yuki.

For the one voted out I figured it would be the bootlicking girl but nah instead Chie got voted out. I guess it's fine? Chie didn't really do much either. Just unlucky. Would've perfered the bootlicking girl out maybe but ngl really doubt it matters. The only one that we'll likely see again is Mishiro. Kotoha maybe as well?

Also ngl I quite like that it seems they've got individual agents for each of them. Just from looks I probably like Yuki's the most. The white hair with the suit and sunglasses just works. Also damn ngl feel bad for Chie's agent. I wonder if each player is quite connected to their agent, or maybe it just depends?

Also, at the end I guess we see Mishiro getting a prosthetic arm? I guess since I assume the wolf ate her arm, they couldn't just reattach it, huh.

HotBloodedNinja2026-01-28 18:49

I thought FMC taught green-haired to say those lines to Chie so it would make at least 2 votes for Chie, wasn't expecting Kotoha to be lying like that.
Also at the end, the one escorting FMC, looked similar in design to Yuki.

ToastFreeGluten2026-01-28 19:25

Very interesting we got to see so much more of the post-game process, especially revealing the agents having personal connections with the players.

I imagine Mishiro is going to become a hated character if she shows up a lot, but I can't deny she's a great foil to Yuki.

Overall, already fixing to be an anime of the year.

Aggressive_North75242026-01-28 19:53

I did not expect Chie to die and seeing the reaction of the agent broke my heart. Like the way she grabbed the foam
Tje ending music as Mishiro vents and rages. So many things to say and think...
I love how layered and profound the story is.

I genuinely, like my second thought was what happened if Chie did voted for herself... and then I cried... but I don't think she would. I wonder who she would have voted for.

With this 4th ep scrap building chapter seems to have concluded. And man, what a chapter, what a series. While still maintaining the tension and atmosphere fr ghost house it still has its unique world, it's unique atmosphere bringing something terrifyingly real...
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, this series is truly formidable. The way it has tension without even having packed up action scenes - showing that you do need grandiose fight sequence to build up tension, conflict and an unsettling and growing atmosphere. What the final scenes implies scratches my brain. This series scratches my brain just right...
It again passed way too fast.
Ueno, the director shows once more his craft and his attention to the details, and how everything is well thought. The characters words holds so much more meaning than it first appears to.
I felt a strange feeling once the episode ended where words can't explain it, and might not do justice to it.
The way the series shows violence and the aesthetician od the s3ires.
And also the drawing anime.
We might habe a gem here.
Also, what the ending might imply about that character decision... I just started crying.
This show might be the stupidest or the most clever I don't know bit I do love it a lot and if it makes me

Heartbreaking. Broken.

The contrast to having a violent, gory, bloody death to a silent, bypassing that act is such a clever move where it shows the aftermath and left me in a complete emptiness as you see the agent reaction to the remains of the characters.

The implication that chie might have voted for herself just broke my heart.

I honestly was so afraid for kotoha to die, so I'm relieves to see that she's still alive but chie's death has left a bitter aftertaste after the little interaction she had with kotoha and the fact that she said see you later or smth like this to just never come back is making me cry so much. The fact that the reason mishiro didn't vote for Keith bc Keito would kinda always follow mishiro...

The irony of kotoha speaking to chie, her keeping her promise, and then chie dying... and kotoha being carried by keito
And that they both voted for each other... that's scratching my brain...

First time in a long time in a series I genuinely stop thinking and focused only on the story — along with the shots and stuff, but then being also equally so afraid and tense after the characters fate....

The choice to not show the execution, after a shocking first episode and a death, to bypass it and show the aftermath is such a strong choice and I kinda love it. And it breaks me. Seeing the girl remains...

HydraTower2026-01-28 20:05

I expected them all to vote Chie because she was so wishy washy.

She was swept up in leaving both girls behind, yet appeased to Mishiro when she came back, and also was quick to agree to the green haired girl’s deal.

iDabejo2026-01-28 20:06

This shows that it is possible everyone can survive a death game. It only assumes everyone trusts each other to cooperate and the type of final game played. I don’t know who voted who, but if everyone got one vote, then everyone wins.

The_Observations2026-01-28 20:08

What kind of gas did they use, expected a corpse not a pile of fluff.

Emi_Ibarazakiii2026-01-28 20:20

[How could ANYONE say this girl isn't best girl!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/f7be2e5f46ce.png)

[](#delighted)

[So we finally have some legit insight on her now, that is NOT open to interpretation!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/316a31023bb8.png)

[*Historians will say they were death game mates*](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/bdbb6cfe225f.png)

[](#forbiddenlove)

Well, I think there's a bit of "game recognizes game" in there, though their games aren't on the same level!

I've seen my fair share of firework confessions, festival confessions and all that, but I think it's my first ['Being attacked by a wolf' confession!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/5397e32356dd.png)

I guess I always sees the most evil/worst case scenario, because [when she told her the directions, I thought perhaps the others were all dead (mines) and so she was using Mishiro as a "mine detector" for the last couple ways!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/31636b3a7e56.png)

[](#panic)

[Hah, that's what I always do in my pointless 'prepare for everything' scenarios in case a wolf attacks me someday!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ae0ac46e7580.png)

[](#urbansmile)

(I was a little worried, because the worst thing you CAN'T do in this situation, is drop the knife out of reach...)

[Clever girl!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/7e7bfce76ecc.png)

Realizing the whole thing thanks to the paper, the dresses... And also realizing WHY Yuki went to save Mishiro! (And thinking she's scary as fuck for that!)

[Soon as she said that I thought "She will agree, but not do it..."](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/9f1d42c87069.png)

[Thank God hah; When the door opened I thought they were getting more wolves!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/f096c2277ee3.png)

[So they have to vote someone out...](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/ff62033badd8.png)

I imagine some of them truly did vote thinking of "The most useless person", but that's NOT what you should do, what you should do is "Vote for who you think the others will vote for"...

Yuki saved herself by going for Mishiro, but if not for that, voting Yuki might have been the best option, thinking Mishiro might vote for her, and thus she'd be the most likely to be voted out!

It's all very psychological (I wish we heard their thoughts and all during the scene!), because you have to wonder which will vote for useless ones, which will vote by pettiness (Mishiro), which will be strategical, and so on! You have to ask yourself 'What will they think', but also keep in mind THEY will ask themselves 'What will YOU think/vote for', and this may affect their vote, and so on...

Well, I say that, but apparently some may also vote at random hah.

[](#yuishrug)

I wonder if they made a conscious decision of NOT letting them discuss it (and not letting us hear their thoughts) because both these things might have been interesting!

[Hah, as someone who played a lot of escape rooms (usually less deadly than this show), of course you shouldn't want to discard the random paper you got!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/1a9c7d58e8ef.png)

[At first I thought that was genuine (given they're out of the game and all), ](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/30bff67b5a94.png)

[but it seems she wants to get a win over her before she retires! And she's simply accepting that Yuki's better... *at this time!*](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/aefd8ab22868.png)

Also, about Yuki: [I wonder if this was a final test/opportunity!](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/80d36e492b2e.png)

"See if you grab that knife and test me"...

(I wonder if they would do something against that, if she did!)

[Damn. So I'm guessing... Closed casket?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/5687261d682b.png)

But more importantly: [What was that about?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/14bb231672e6.png)

They called them "agents", but [are they like... family?](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/11b9a562be6a.png)

laervn2026-01-28 20:40

a room full of fluff has never looked so gory

tripleaamin2026-01-28 21:05

Much like with the first death game, Yuki's decision of the final death (only death in Scrap Building) was the deciding factor in who died. As she literally voted for everyone, and her vote made Chie die. It seems clear that Yuki doesn't care how she wins; she only cares about winning itself and surviving.

Also in this game we get highlighted on Yuki's personality and how it differs from Ghost House. In here she gets a thrill when Mishiro rejects her request to apologize. While in Ghost House, she is more calm and collected, which is an interesting difference.

It is interesting how the votes went for the girls. It teels a bit of their character.

* Yuki - Not caring who she voted for, but it happened to be Chie.
* Mishiro - Despite her hatred for Yuki, she still voted for Chie. Kind of showing that she has high pride. Of course, high pride in herself and how frustrated she is at Yuki. But at the same time, not to let that pride swallow her up in her choosing Yuki because she put the most effort into this game.
* Kotoha - She voted for Keito. Honestly, you can tell that Keito's attitude as a suck-up pissed her off. More than likely, it was the difference between her voting for Chie or Keito. Plus, she was smart to realize it would be easier to get Chie to not vote for her than for Keito to not vote for her.
* Chie - It is hard to say, but you have to assume that she voted for Yuki or Mishiro.
* Keito - Voting for Kotoha who already lost half her body. Kind of the point she doesn't care as long as she survives.

CitronClassic6722026-01-28 23:46

Ok so I thought that scene at the end was a hallucination, others thought it was real, but u don’t think anyone expected it to just be a joke.

That comment from Yuki. Wait, is this a new toxic/doomed yuri show?

That Mishiro crashout sequence at the end was fucking surreal. I had to rewatch it just to understand all the details. And I just noticed the letters at the end spell out “Bad Love”. And omfg it’s the same as the episode title. I was curious about the title before watching the episode because it didn’t make sense to me, but now.

I can’t believe I unknowingly clocked onto the best yuri anime of the season. My yuridar is top notch. Well, toxic and doomed yuri here we go.