Yuusha Party wo Oidasareta Kiyou binbou • Jack-of-All-Trades, Party of None

Yuusha Party wo Oidasareta Kiyou binbou • Jack-of-All-Trades, Party of None - Episode 5 discussion

*Yuusha Party wo Oidasareta Kiyou binbou*, episode 5

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intheofficewaiting892026-01-28 16:35

Man that defender and the mage from the hero's party are starting to get annoying. Despite everything they still cant admit any fault or understand that they lack strength.

mekerpan2026-01-28 17:27

Definitely not S-rank material at all.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:46

Luna called them the "weakest S-Rank Party" but even that was probably being generous. I don't get the sense they really are S-Rank without Orhun.

mekerpan2026-01-28 18:49

Well, they are still "officially" S-rank for now -- but that is likely to change soon. Will their rank get reduced? Or will they be required to disband? I would say that the latter is most appropriate. And then there is a matter of possible suspension -- or revoking the right to be adventurers at all.

Magicbison2026-01-29 05:29

I sincerely hope the *Hero's* Party gets forcefully disbanded, they absolutely deserve to. I'm a bit cynical about this series so far so I'm betting Orhun will just forgive them and the *Hero's* Party will get off with a slap on the wrist because the lazy writing doesn't really allow for something better.

no1foryou2026-01-28 21:52

They are definitely S-Rank. S-Rank Gaslighters, S-Rank accountability dodging, S-Rank imbeciles.

mekerpan2026-01-28 22:21

Well, that is true enough.

Boris-_-Badenov2026-01-28 17:51

the hero kept acting like he was about to realize what was different while fighting the first boss last week, but then kept denying it

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:45

He wouldn't even admit to anything at the guild, Luna had to be the one to basically do everything.

DugACCat2026-01-28 18:19

Yeah I honestly find this disappointing given one thing I was impressed by in the first couple episodes is the conversations with characters felt more reasonable and better thought out than in similar “kicked out of the party” anime. Like it seemed like even the antagonists felt more like actual people and, while in the wrong, had not unreasonable reasons for what they chose to do. Making them this pig-headed in ignoring what is being shown to them undermines that. They could still dig in and stick to the course they chose, and their growing beef with the MC, without having to be so idiotic about it.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:47

Oliver couldn't 100% beat the dumb party leader who kicks out the MC allegations.

Galinhooo2026-01-28 23:01

Everything in that world seems kinda dumb. Like how they blame the heroes party and simply sends them without backup to fight the dragon. They had no way of knowing where the dragon went to, they were already aware they couldn't fight it, no one knew that the thing could use itens and the dragon even left the place it was supposed to be before engaging with the heroes.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:47

Honestly I almost hope Orhun doesn't actually need any of them at all to stop the Black Dragon because they don't deserve to get boosted by his buffs again. Just let them wallow in realizing how weak they really are.

Phoenix__Wwrong2026-01-28 20:33

It seems like Selma's party was at least strong enough to fight the dragon despite losing someone last year. They should be able to beat it with Orhun.

Beginning-Hope-26002026-01-28 19:08

I know that the old party members are always annoying in this little subgenre, but wow do these guys take that normal irrationality to a whole new level. I've seen rocks with greater depth and complexity than these two.

The only thing they do is complain about Ohrun, and they are weaker than the literal children that Ohrun is working with now. Like, why in the world did Luna and Ohrun team up with these two in the first place?

coffeecakesupernova2026-01-29 06:43

Orhun and the hero and Luna were childhood friends.

ActualRound76992026-01-28 20:52

I just said the same thing. losers. the hero is just as bad. Luna is the only sensible one there.

fsfaith2026-01-29 02:04

Starting? I applaud your high tolerance. They tricked me off in the very first episode.

Striking_Chard24202026-01-29 04:02

What do you mean "starting to", they've BEEN annoying 🤣

PeaceAlien2026-01-28 16:42

They really teased the dragon appearing the whole episode, only for it to be a cliff hanger for the next episode lol

Boris-_-Badenov2026-01-28 17:52

guess they have to try and make it more believable that they beat the black dragon with a group of kids.

he gave a few minutes of instruction, so now they can help...

Arzhart2026-01-28 18:44

I mean, not the kids. He has the S-rank people there with him. With Orhun help, they'll be probably way better than the Hero Party

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:49

And Selma is like the top Enchanter without Orhun's MC cred so between the two of them they probably have this.

Western-Internal-7512026-01-28 20:58

Last episode blue hair girl explained that Orhun’s buffs are used on equipment, not the people themselves, which will make them synergize even more. She buffs people, he buffs weapons and armor.

The only one supporter meta is going to be shattered by them together in a group.

PeaceAlien2026-01-28 18:55

From the explanation though, sounds like Orhun needs to fully understand each person to work with them. Although he’s super smart maybe he already understands them after working together a little bit.

Also based on the description in the episode he knows the exact stats of the dragon to debuff it.

YdenMkII2026-01-28 19:13

Like the hero party did mention how Orhun figured things out 1 hour after class changing to a buffer when comparing him to the new buffer they recruited so him adjusting to the other vet members probably has already happened.

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 20:37

Luna did say that their 'Heroes' party is now the weakest S-rank group without Orhun.

Which jives with what Selma and her own guildmaster said when learning Orhun had left his party.

And with Orhun's original insistence that his party stay in the Lower floors building up strength before pushing forward. He, and Luna, knew their party was punching well above it's paygrade and needed to slow down.

Basically, their 'fundamentals' are flawed from Orhun's original magic doing too much heavily lifting: they got too strong, too fast. The 90+ floors were leaving them overextended, but the rest of the group was too ~~stupid~~ arrogant to realize this.

TL:DR Orhun was the special sauce of his party of otherwise mediocre chumps. Giving his god-tier buffs to a party that is stronger and overall more competent will result in even better performance.

So Orhun/Selma and the rest of the "Chaperones" will kill the Black Dragon, hopefully *without* clutch assistance from the kids because *that would be stupid.*

This will not only cement Orhun's place as the new Ace Attacker of the Silver Rabbits marque party, but also completely dethrone the Chumps from their position as 'Heroes.' Orhun, with the Rabbits, will have cleaned up the Heroes' mess, despite them being specifically ordered by the guild to clean up after themselves. In the process, they will not only have their reputation ruined but be saddled with the monstrous debt of the mass teleportation.

GG Assclowns.

Western-Internal-7512026-01-28 20:54

What mass teleportation? They’re all still in there 😂

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 22:11

*sigh*

The framing of this episode was so warped.

I can buy that it took half a day for the Heroes' party to return, talk the Guildmaster into starting the Mass Teleport, then more time charging up ~~mah lazer~~ this grand magic...

But the *dragon!?* That bastard slipped through the 'fickle gate' at the beginning of the day. The party had just arrived in the dungeon. They had fought like one or two mobs... then BAM!

And in the time it took the dragon to teleport to floor 50, the Rabbit's group of newbies covered 15 fucking floors?

Do Fickle Gates normally take several hours to launch? Was the dragon's ass so big it took longer to teleport!?

*sigh*

lance7772026-01-28 18:24

I was fully expecting that cliff hanger because the title song has that shocked reaction of everyone upon seeing the dragon. Looked exactly like an end of episode scene.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:49

Apparently those Fickle Gates take an entire half-hour to kick in lol.

joe45532026-01-28 19:18

I think it's meant to show what Orhun was doing while the hero party was fleeing. Think the gate happened almost immediately.

KnightKal2026-01-28 20:18

that would be weird timing, considering they were finishing up their day after ~20 dungeon levels, while the hero party was defeated right by the gate entry on their first level.

big group entered early in the day and it was likely they spend the entire day there, as they were not sleeping inside, hours of exploration

oh well anime logic I guess? Hero party was drunk, woke up after launch, and decided to go inside close to diner time? /joke

Phoenix__Wwrong2026-01-28 20:29

But the dragon somehow terrified the mobs from as early as floor 40, yet only appeared when they reached floor 50. So, I kinda doubt that the gate was immediate.

YdenMkII2026-01-28 20:56

There was something wrong with the dungeon in general since the dragon left the boss room somehow so that could be what was messing up the mobs in the lower floors.

machopsychologist2026-01-28 22:54

... the hero party had to run all the way back to town, argue with the guild, then run all the way back.

if the dragon transported immediately then they would have been fucked either way

kalirion2026-01-28 19:29

And they terrify almost every monster in the dungeon into hiding in the meantime >_>

goddessofthewinds2026-01-29 05:32

That was the most stupid thing ever. How can it terrifies monsters on 12+ floors when the gate should be instant... They really stretched that episode 4 cliffhanger really long.

The show isn't terrible but the writing is dumb.

Bioinvasion__2026-01-28 21:08

They said that they didn't know where nor when the dragon would come out. I guess the dragon itself could choose the moment and where to appear, or it was just random (as the hero party didn't know where they were teleported when they wated to retreat).

PerfectBeige2026-01-28 22:45

I mean that's why they are called "fickle" gates and not "punctual" gates. Sheesh.

unknown_enigma2026-01-28 23:37

They're called "Fickle" for a reason.

GapOk23172026-01-28 19:06

bro I came here to complain about that, I waited a whole week 😭😭

Phoenix__Wwrong2026-01-28 20:26

I was able to guess that they would do cliffhanger because the episode title doesn't mention the dragon at all, only something about his bad feeling.

Disappointing...

ActualRound76992026-01-28 20:51

Probably take about two episodes to deal with the dragon now 😂

lucacp_ysoz2026-01-28 21:13

EXACTLY! I WAS LOSING MY MIND LMAO. I KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN SO CAN YOU PLEASE?! I haven't been blue balled by an anime episode in a long time

PeaceAlien2026-01-28 21:17

Blue balls, black dragon

nanais7772026-01-29 00:12

From the pacing in the first few minutes, I knew this was gonna be the case.

oxlemf102026-01-28 16:46

After this episode, I definitely hope Orhun invites Luna to be part of a future party; the other members are too much of a pricks

AggravatingWorth27102026-01-28 16:53

Absolutely, she's a real one. Those guys are so full of themselves and not even that strong.

lance7772026-01-28 18:26

The new replacement enchanter is also not a bad person, just not orhun or selma level in talent

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:48

Poor girl just standing off to the side awkwardly being the only one other than Luna that realized they would need to clean up the mess **they** made.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:51

She deserves so much better than having to be stuck taking responsibility for and trying to put sense into this idiot party.

She wasted no time prioritizing saving lives, accepting what they needed to do, and realizing they needed Orhun to do it.

LazulineDaydream2026-01-28 16:49

Geez, "I'm glad nothing happened-"....

If he's really a skilled adventurer, he should know better than tripping a flag like that. Given the timing, I bet that fickle gate was just waiting for literally anyone in the dungeon to say something like that.

ManufacturerCrazy1422026-01-28 17:31

seriously. Naming it the “fickle” gate just seals the deal for me.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:56

That it popped in almost immediately after he said it in the exact floor and spot lol.

Empire0872026-01-28 19:56

Didnt they say it opens to a boss room? That kinda checks out, but the same floor lol

das_baus2026-01-28 16:51

The pacing of this show is incredibly frustrating. Last episode built up to the dragon and we only catch a glimpse of it here.

The hero party timeline is clearly not happening in parallel with Ohrun's training exercise, unless there is some massive delay on the teleport from Floor 92 to the upper/mid floors (I would typically expect teleports to be instant). As a result the cuts between parties just seem like bad editing.

I feel like there's a good story here, one of the better "kicked from hero party" so far, but it's been a real slog getting this far. I hope the fight lives up to setup (although for all I know next episode could be all dialogue/hero party arguing).

mekerpan2026-01-28 17:29

The pacing hasn't bothered me much. Perhaps it is a bit awkward. But constant cross-cutting would also be awkward and probably distracting.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:56

I guess it really takes a **long** time to get a mass-teleport going lol.

Beginning-Hope-26002026-01-28 19:00

I don't think it's necessarily that the pacing is bad, but the constant cutaways to the hero party. On Ohrun's side of the story, we did get some nice worldbuilding and development of the magic system, and you always have the threat of the dragon looming and Ohrun reaffirming his unease. It's not the most exciting episode and is certainly filler, but it does a good job adding more depth to the world and setting up (likely) important info for the fight to come, even if it's drawing out what will be the obvious chance for the MC to prove that he's far better than his old party.

Taking that into account, the scenes with the hero party are plain unnecessary. We know they're heading for the guild, and we know there will be a massive penalty for the force teleport. At most, all you need is to show them arriving and requesting the force teleport, then cut to Ohrun for the rest of the episode. The constant cutaways to them are just plain distracting and really complicate the flow of the episode. They aren't interesting characters and what they're doing isn't interesting or plot-relevant because *we already knew they were doing it at the end of last episode*. It's like the show thinks we're going to be confused when they likely show up at the end of the next episode and are stunned with whatever Ohrun has done, as is par for course with this genre.

Phoenix__Wwrong2026-01-28 20:44

I doubt the gate was instant because floor 40's mobs were affected, yet the dragon only showed up on floor 50.

But yeah the pacing was weird. It's also not clear when Orhun and the clan arrived in front of the dungeon vs when the hero party left the dungeon.

AggravatingWorth27102026-01-28 16:51

PLEASE tell me he is going to defeat the dragon with the new party and his old party is just going to get there after and be absolute dumbfounded because those losers couldn't defeat it alone. They really are so arrogant it is starting to get annoying.

i_reddit_too_mcuh2026-01-28 17:50

I'm hoping the new party defeats the dragon before they even get teleported out. Like, 1) Orhun and co. defeats the black dragon, 2) guild leaders teleport Orhun and co. out, 3) Luna goes "join us to defeat the dragon!", 4) Orhuns goes "oh we did it with all these newbs", 5) we laugh at Orhun's old party's stupid faces.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:52

6) Luna and Philly jump ship.

i_reddit_too_mcuh2026-01-28 18:55

I forgot about Philly! She should definitely leave those losers behind.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:54

I'll be surprised if they actually let the kids fight that thing, but Orhun is definitely probably going to do the brunt of taking it down without his old party.

kalirion2026-01-28 19:31

He's obviously just going to solo it with a DecaImpact (10x100x damage buff) and then I'm going to drop.

JigoroKuwajima2026-01-28 21:18

real lmao

Galinhooo2026-01-28 23:15

"Good thing I had invented this original skill that makes black dragons on the level 50 to lose 6700% of their defense and that one which makes red haired teenagers be 420 times stronger while making their sister's boobs grow yesterday as I prepared"

Captain_c0c02026-01-29 05:26

I do hate how this show just throws big random numbers.

Like brother, if you have something that makes what you do 50 times better, there is NO COMPARISON between the "Before" and "After".

Honestly, just don't give a number. Just say it's more powerful and keep it at that.

Phoenix__Wwrong2026-01-28 20:39

Selma's party was strong enough to reach floor 92 without Orhun, so they should be able to beat the dragon with him.

darthvall2026-01-29 03:26

Yeah, I really hope they don't team up anymore.

Do you know what would be more humiliating? If he instead team up with the rookie party and won the fight lol. Nah, that would be too far a stretch considering someone important in the guild died to the black dragon.

Primo292026-01-28 16:53

All that talk just to tease the black dragon at the end.

The Heroes Party still don't want to acknowledge why they're weak.

TheJunkyardDog2026-01-28 17:13

Because they are boosted pieces of ish.

Orhun carried them like sacks of ish.

Background_Formal9402026-01-28 17:00

So the heroes party unleashed a powerful dragon upon the adventurers yet they claim no responsibility doesn't surprise me that arrogant jerk refuse accountability for their actions at least Luna is mature enough she needs to leave that party.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:53

Honestly when they brought up the cost of having to use the full teleport and how the guild recognized that the party was to blame, I feel like they're going to have to pay a lot of money for the teleport which will probably leave them broke and their reputation won't recover.

Luna and Philly will hopefully leave and find better prospects afterwards because they're the only ones who don't deserve this.

Skoziik2026-01-28 19:17

Didn't they just spend a lot of money for Phillys welcome party? They're probably in debt afterwards.

Say_o_nara2026-01-28 20:07

I don't think they would be in debt just because of one party (and the mage girl said they had a lot of money) but who knows, they're pretty stupid

ObvsThrowaway51202026-01-28 17:01

Guess we gotta wait until next week for Orhun to clean up Oliver’s mess. It’s a little ridiculous those two dipshits in the party still don’t get why they need Orhun. They’re weak af without him and it still ain’t sinking in. Sad.

bama5019962026-01-28 17:13

They are really teasing this dragon fight. I really hope it lives up to it. The show has been fun but none of the battles have seemed that impressive yet.

HotBloodedNinja2026-01-28 17:26

I honestly thought he would be using the students to kill the dragon. Good thing that didn't happen, cuz that would have been too absurd.

ManufacturerCrazy1422026-01-28 17:28

They did us so bad with the new episode. At least we get to see the epic battle…. Next week 😅😂

I want to see dark fireballs and peak animation after this build up!

Enrich_Doomsayer2026-01-28 17:35

Wow, another episode of nothing happening.

Weekly_Event_19692026-01-28 19:06

fr just straight yapping. Only in the final episodes did some stuff actually happen

Bukkokori2026-01-28 19:06

Hey, he has explained some basic things to the **advanced** group!

The worst part is that the magician's older sister is also a magician, but she hasn't bothered to explain such basic things to her little sister!

OldInstruction53682026-01-28 20:43

Look, this is a world where "group specialization" is a hot new craze despite living in an advanced society. They have enough development to build cities and guilds, but it was only a couple years ago when some kid said "Hey, maybe all rushing the same target with clubs is a bad way to fight!?"

Obviously, the average IQ of this world is... a few degrees lower than ours.

I mean, just look at the Heroes' Party!

AceSoldia2026-01-28 17:38

Man this show really drags things out...I like the characters..but damn we saw a whole episode without the dragon attacking lol.

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:54

On the one hand, they're developing the younger cast and also developing the magic/party system and how it works.

On the other hand, they're really dragging out the actual exciting stuff.

Animesiac2026-01-29 01:21

I hate when shows do this.

if all the exposition had happened 2 episodes ago, it would have been fine. it would have completely fit the flow of the story at the time. the issue I have is that I've gone into 2 episodes in a row expecting for them to fight the dragon, and we still haven't even started. I half believe that next week will be an episode-long flashback just to push the fight back yet another episode.

Makes me so angry.

Mistral-Fien2026-01-28 19:20

That's still better than compressing things and cutting out swaths of characterization like what happened to `Unnamed Memory`. :/

liquidpele2026-01-28 17:42

This pacing/filler is just ridiculous. They could have put the entire plot thus far into 2 episodes and it would be nice and clean.

hanmkim2026-01-28 17:46

For an emergency where lives are at stake, they sure do discuss everything at a leisurely pace.

Boris-_-Badenov2026-01-28 17:49

I like how they didn't even tell the people outside not to enter as they ran past.... yet now say nobody knows about the danger

YdenMkII2026-01-28 17:51

With the timing of the dragon showing up at the end of the episode there, I'm guessing the timing if off between the viewpoints of the 2 parties with Orhun's POV happening in the past from the hero's party POV. I'm going to guess Orhun will have defeated the black dragon by the time the hero party gets to the dungeon to meet up with him.

prude_eskimo2026-01-28 17:52

They teased the dragon showing up and the mass teleport last episode, only to tease it again this episode.

At least we got 20 minutes of him teaching his students random stuff instead of plot progression

i_reddit_too_mcuh2026-01-28 17:55

What the fuck Orhun? You created an awesome skill that increases power by 100x, and *feel like you are cheating by using it*?

kalirion2026-01-28 19:32

He also still considers himself to be weak.

stratogy2026-01-28 23:37

Breaks his jack-of-all-trades persona. Can't have an OP cheat skill.

AlphaBreak2026-01-29 01:34

I mean, I'd love to see what that magic turns into if he teaches it to the redhead enchantress.

darthvall2026-01-29 03:27

Last episode, Luna said 10 times. Now he revealed he even has a 100 times version.

It pissed me off that he values himself as an enchanter so little.

A0lipke2026-01-28 18:12

I think they could have improved the pacing by changing the order of episode 4 and 5. It could have made the reveal and the cause more impactful.

skavinger58822026-01-28 18:13

Is it just me or did it feel like nothing really happened this episode, it felt like SOOO much just filler nothing

noxiousfarts2026-01-28 18:13

Enjoyable generic OP slop. Yet somehow, I have enjoyed it immensely over the Death game show

lance7772026-01-28 18:30

This is probably the fantasy/magic related show that I most look forward to every week. Even though they stretched the dragon entrance to two episodes, I still enjoyed both the episodes.

chubbyninja12026-01-28 18:31

My god this show moves slow. I want to like it but damn, you could boil everything thats happend down to a one paragraph summary and not miss anything

LaborSurplus2026-01-28 18:39

I’m loving the anime, but god does the pacing feel way too slow. An awesome cliff hanger for next episode, hopefully these first 5 episodes accomplished all of the world building and slow dialogue and we can get into the action.

all_ready_gone2026-01-28 18:41

I guess it's too late to drop this. Would hate if something finally happens and I miss it

Frontier2462026-01-28 18:45

Orhun has bad vibes? I'm sure there's nothing to it! I mean, look how perky and energized Caroline is! Everything is totally going to be okay!

Albert Sensible? He sounds very sensible. He was also one of the top aces of the Night Sky Rabbits and his loss was part of the reason Selma has been so aggressive in trying to recruit Orhun. He actually died protecting others from the Black Dragon. And it seems like his loss had a big impact on Caroline, to where she takes facing monsters directly and staying away from her allies really seriously. She seems like a completely different person.

Eleonora looks cute, but they have no time to dwell on that. For Luna the main priority has to be saving lives before the Black Dragon gets loose and innocent people have to suffer for the Hero Parties' mistake.

No monsters makes Caroline a dull girl! Which is why she immediately rushes at the first Azure Goblin she sees. If she's going to be so aggressive, she needs to be understand how to apply that to being a Defender and adapt her style in a way that still accomplishes what a Defender has to do. And while teaching Caroline that, Orhun also teaches Logan some things about being an Enchanter and Sophia about being a spellcaster. He's surprisingly cut out for teaching, even if he's mostly just applying stuff he learned from adapting to his old party.

Sophia finally lets loose the waterworks and how much she wants Orhun to keep teaching her...and can he ever say no to her? Though Sophia being kind of calculated in knowing her sister always just goes along with whatever she asks. She's a kind of devious little sister, as it turns out.

I can't believe Anneli and Derrick are STILL refusing to take responsibility for this mess or trying to avoid having to clean up after themselves by stopping the Black Dragon. Luna is still the only one with enough sense to face what they've done and recognize that they're going to need Orhun if they want to stop the Black Dragon...because they're the weakest without him.

Nice for the recruits to get to see how well the pros fight together, and Orhun gets to finally REALLY show off, especially in front of Selma!

Of COURSE the Black Dragon arrives right when they've finished and about to go home. Perfect (worst) timing!

BornfromDarkness2026-01-28 18:46

This episode was a L…. Why do you think parallel construction is a good idea? Felt very stupid in “obvious was obvious said”

Would have lost it though if the teleport spell also did the dragon because the dragon ate someone etc

Muzzy-chan2026-01-28 18:58

What the heck is wrong with the so-called “heroes” party? Last week, they somewhat kind of realised their stupidity, but this week, they became stupid again?

And heck, another delay? Even though their shocked faces at the end of the episode are kind of realistic, damn, I hate this kind of cliffhanger 😐

Next episode, please!

kalirion2026-01-28 19:32

The writing is what's wrong.

darthvall2026-01-29 03:30

To be fair, last weak they panicked and even then they never verbally said they're at fault. I remember one scene where it still became a blame game for them.

Now that they're on safe spot, they're back to their self absorbed state of mind.

NationalStrategy2026-01-28 19:22

“It’s not our fault!” “We did nothing wrong.”

Not surprised those two are avoiding taking responsibility. It’s bad enough that they insisted on going to a high level dungeon floor unprepared, but now they can’t even own up to their own failures and shortcomings.

kalirion2026-01-28 19:28

Caroline is right that as an EVASION tank she needs to be far away from the others and draw all the agro to herself. What use is there in evading an attack that then hits your comrades? That doesn't mean that she should be getting herself stuck clashing blades or trying to take the monsters out herself....

Why were the monsters on Floor 40 hiding when KuroDrago hadn't even made it to Floor 50 yet at the time?

nowayseriouslee2026-01-28 19:55

I guess the monster guild had already warned all members about that and advised defensive mode only against adventurers until further instructions.

djthomp2026-01-28 19:29

I can only assume the two threads of the episode weren't happening at the same time since it doesn't really make sense for why the dragon arrived when it did. Then again the monsters on the floor were scared and that doesn't entirely make sense if it was still down on the 92nd floor before the teleport. The Heroes party did get surprised by it wandering around outside its boss room, so maybe it showing up at the end of the episode was more of that wandering?

Definitely way too much yapping with the kids this episode, slowed the whole thing down kind of painfully only for a cliffhanger at the end.

Say_o_nara2026-01-28 20:03

Yeah, the timing def didn't make much sense. The MC had a feeling that something was off even before entering the dungeon, so maybe we could consider the monsters had that same sensation as well, they all just "had a feeling". Still think it was poorly executed tho

Say_o_nara2026-01-28 20:00

So this whole episoden was them just edging us, again, and with the exact same cliffhanger lol, that's not fun at all

NanDemoKnaives2026-01-28 20:04

Even in front of the guildmaster and other officials the three of them still have the nerve to not take accountability? Oliver in particular is a disgrace, he's not even willing to explain the situation when he's the leader and so Luna has to get things done. Luna should really think about leaving the party.

What a frightening way to end the expedition for them though, I wonder if they'll be teleported out in time.

Hoopsheadasshits2026-01-28 20:31

This shit is ass. Like I’m ashamed of myself for continuing to tune in levels of ass. But I’ll be here next week I guess I gotta know what’s gonna happen next fuck me

AlexxxandreS2026-01-28 20:43

If Luna doesn't leave the party, then I know this is dogshite writing

ActualRound76992026-01-28 20:50

I really can’t stand most of the hero‘s party. They all almost die last episode when they realized how just straight up stupidly mediocre they are without Orhun, and even now most of them are too damned proud to own it. Even if it means people will die.

I hope most of them suffer and receive some comeuppance at some point this season. I want to see them publicly shamed and Orhun publicly praised. fuck the hero’s party.

great episode, although the ending was predictable.

BiggerG72026-01-28 21:22

For minute there I thought the dragon was actually NOT going to conveniently show up on the same floor that Orhun was in lol.

myrlin772026-01-28 21:42

******LetMeSoloHer enters the chat

Dadscope2026-01-28 21:45

The pacing of this is so off that this was basically a full-episode of cliffhanger.

kwokinator2026-01-28 22:17

So he's only A-rank in everything but somehow created an original spell that multiplies attack power by 100.

That shouldn't even count as a cheat spell anymore, that's straight up hitting ~ to bring up the console and type "ATK x 100".

Life_Performer42612026-01-28 22:26

nothing burger episode

Unapologetic_Lunatic2026-01-29 01:22

All I could think with that force teleportation discussion was, "What if someone's in the middle of casting? Does the fireball stay in the dungeon, or does it become everyone's problem on reentry?"

PsychologicalBus73362026-01-29 07:47

Seriously, this is the kind of writing I hate in the world.

Firstly, nothing happens in this episode except for the MC's basic teachings to others.

Secondly, seriously, does everyone have a negative IQ or something? He's explaining something basic, but everyone's been figuring it out like a genius from the start.

The writing is really lazy, instead of creating an interesting and intelligent MC. The authors make all the other characters as stupid and uninteresting as possible.

If you don't like MC, you're incredibly stupid and a nasty caricature. The entire character boils down to messing things up in the MC's life and serving as a foil to make him shine.

If you like MC, you are "normally" stupid but always uninteresting and a nice guy without nuance. These characters are there solely to flatter the MC and worship him like a god. They marvel at his exploits without doing anything themselves.

Seriously, how do you expect me to like characters like these? In five episodes, I didn't find a single good character in the story. And with writing like that, I doubt we'll see an interesting character before the end of the season.