TV Asahi Producer Hiromichi Shizume says more studios like Mappa may skip Anime production committee system to sign with companies like Netflix; "Creators will naturally want to work where the pay is better, and they have more freedom"
According to veteran TV Asahi producer Hiromichi Shizume, moves like this could create pressure to rethink Japan’s long-standing “production committee” system.
A production committee is a consortium of companies (such as manga publishers, broadcasters, and marketers) that come together to invest in the production of anime on a project-by-project basis. While this system helps fund new titles and reduces the financial risk animation studios bear, it’s also somewhat notorious for not allowing the studios to make money.
As Shizume puts it, investors allocate only the bare minimum to the anime studio, keeping productions costs low. This means a base budget for the studio is secured even if the anime doesn’t end up selling, but it also gives investors the opportunity to lap up most of the profit. And since there’s no royalty system in place (like in book publishing, for example), the studio’s cut remains the same no matter how big a hit the anime becomes. As a result of this structure (and other related factors like manpower shortage), there has been a [rising number of studios going bankrupt](https://automaton-media.com/en/news/anime-studio-bankruptcies-and-closures-continue-to-rise-for-third-consecutive-year-in-japan/), and animators’ wages have barely improved throughout the years.
However, if Japanese studios skip the production committees and start signing directly with global streaming giants (like MAPPA has with Netflix), Shizume believes production budgets will rise considerably. “Creators naturally want to work where the pay is better, and they have more freedom. That’s true not just for anime, but for dramas and variety shows too.”
A production committee is a consortium of companies (such as manga publishers, broadcasters, and marketers) that come together to invest in the production of anime on a project-by-project basis. While this system helps fund new titles and reduces the financial risk animation studios bear, it’s also somewhat notorious for not allowing the studios to make money.
As Shizume puts it, investors allocate only the bare minimum to the anime studio, keeping productions costs low. This means a base budget for the studio is secured even if the anime doesn’t end up selling, but it also gives investors the opportunity to lap up most of the profit. And since there’s no royalty system in place (like in book publishing, for example), the studio’s cut remains the same no matter how big a hit the anime becomes. As a result of this structure (and other related factors like manpower shortage), there has been a [rising number of studios going bankrupt](https://automaton-media.com/en/news/anime-studio-bankruptcies-and-closures-continue-to-rise-for-third-consecutive-year-in-japan/), and animators’ wages have barely improved throughout the years.
However, if Japanese studios skip the production committees and start signing directly with global streaming giants (like MAPPA has with Netflix), Shizume believes production budgets will rise considerably. “Creators naturally want to work where the pay is better, and they have more freedom. That’s true not just for anime, but for dramas and variety shows too.”
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Romantic killer is more a 8/10 for me, but the other three are 10/10
So you should thank the production committee, not Netflix, even though in this case it is part of the committee.
See how right I am? The fact that only one of these anime is on Netflix proves it.
Delicious in Dungeon, This is an anime from Kadokawa, with global distribution handled by Netflix.
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners This is from CD Projekt Red; Netflix is just the distributor.
Romantic Killer, that one's on Netflix, it's pretty good, but it's not popular. Netflix doesn't do any proper marketing for it.
Will they really have more freedom in terms of editorial control over content if they begin getting demands to purge and prune their works so as to not run afoul of certain modern American/Western cultural sensibilities?
Or will Netflix still have no say over nature of the artistic content itself?
That's how they have been doing things for better or worse.
Strawman type argument. I never said that. But that doesn't mean that the cultural sensibilities are the same between the two places. The positives and negatives of each or whether one is preferable over the other is a subjective individual thing to determine and depends on a person's own life and views.
But it's better to know upfront the differences and whether that will affect artistic creation and broadcast and, if so, to what extent.
Here's the news from that time: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/s/4yZV2V2aGv
Which ones? Because most of them aren't anime produced in partnership with studios.
>This doesn’t have anything to do with western success of anime exclusive to American Netflix.
I think you haven't seen the news about Moonrise.
Besides, the anime I'm talking about are things like Terminator Zero.
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Man, I want to see those other Flugel more (and more Jibril too, ofc)
And we never even got the novels localized and translated T\_T
Oh what i would give to be able to read those...
Overseas anime revenue represented only like 8% of anime industry revenue in 2014. MOST anime revenue was derived from blueray disc sales, with some ad revenue, some merchandice sales, but BD sales was largely make or break. And animes just weren't that independently profitable.
So the main reason to make an anime was the ability to boost manga/light novel sales.
Only a tiny fraction of anime were profitable enough to justify 2nd and further seasons, since 2nd seasons rarely spurred additionaly sales of a manga or LN enough to make it worth it (if someone watched season 1, they would buy the series or not. A 2nd SEason rarely would bring in many new buyers).
Now--overseas anime revenue is up to almsot 55% of industry reenue, and it's driven by streaming. Streaming revenue is overwhelmingly important now. And this money isn't replacing old Japanese domestic anime revenue, it's just growing and supplementing it. Anime--for the first time almost--can be wildly profitable, not just for a small handful of extreme mega-hits.
Now, for publishers, getting an anime made to spur sales is a consideration, but investors an dproduction companies are very interested in making anime that will draw a lot of streaming eyeballs. And that means that the bar that anime have to clear to get greenlit for a S2 is far lower now than it ever has been in the past.
Which makes it stings even more. Especually since spice and wolf is more niche than ngnl
[https://www.screendaily.com/news/japans-anime-industry-grows-to-record-25bn-boosted-by-overseas-market/5210433.article](https://www.screendaily.com/news/japans-anime-industry-grows-to-record-25bn-boosted-by-overseas-market/5210433.article)
"Netflix good, production committee bad". Don't forget that!
They also have the global license to Orb, when we're already talking about Madhouse.
The real issue would be shows like Emmience in the Shadow or Magic and Muscle. I can see those not being a top priority over "safer" options that would "resonate" with a "western" audience. Hell even Konosuba would be a stretch if we remove hindsight bias and just look at source material.
Someone should tell this to Crunchyroll and tell them to stop directly financing them as a committee member
God forbid Mushuko Tensai being adapted by Netflix. It just won't happen.
Right now with streaming services they’re kinda shit because the reality is, no amount of buying up studios is going to make you have a the amount of concentrated IP power for Disney to do it as successfully without burning money, even then, Hulu is becoming that distribution company. Amazon and Netflix distributing anime and indie studio works now
So honestly we could probably see more anime being pulled from Crunchyroll just because they can actually help fund studios, and like CSM, shit like Blu-ray sales, merch cuts, and licensing will still, keep money flowing to Mappa to pay workers and either self fund smaller projects or invest more in major projects.
We’re fucking steamrolling into streaming wars part 2 soon, think of how much money is saved letting studios do the work with a strict check and a deadline of “soon please”, then profiting off their success. It’s why I’m not worried about The One Piece, if they do the smart fucking thing and release it weekly, it genuinely will give me a reason to subscribe for the first time in years. If they don’t, then it’s just more convenient to be a pirate than live like a celestial dragon.
Unless it's an anime original.
Some studios are not independant like A-1 and Cloverworks are owned by AniPlex AKA Sony. Or Doga Kobo by Kadokawa. Or White Fox by Alpha Polis.
Then it is up to the owner to either fund the whole project themselves or share the load.
Then there is studios like CygamesPictures and KyoAni that only do completely self funded projects, they mostly adapt their IPs or stuff they got rights to. Funnily enough both are going to make a Shounen Jump adaptation. Cygames doing Kagurabachi and KyoAni Ruri Dragon. This is also what MAPPA wants to do.
Then there is studios like JC Staff that is independant and doesn't answer to anyone but mostly do commission work, though they are sometimes part of the production committee also. They could probably do what MAPPA does here also, they are big enough and does have the capital to do it but it would be a big risk since if it failed it would be a big loss for them.
Problem is, the studios get the same pay whether it's a stinker or banger. The ecosystem is treating animation studios as a cost center, while still loading them with unrealistic timelines leading to more recap episodes or straight up delayed episodes. It's turtles all the way down. Gachiakuta had a 6 page chapter recently. Blue lock had storyboard sketches mixed into their latest chapter. A couple months back Kagurabachi went full doodle to deliver a full chapter on time.
While studio got only got what they paid originally
Which doesn't have a production committee as it is solely funded by the animation studio, mappa
> kyoani or Cygames
Yes, they also generally self fund their animes
Still not sure how Ruri Dragons would work with KyoAni's philosophy, though. But it's highly unlikely that they'd give up the lead production committee position so easily.
[https://x.com/RuriDra\_anime/status/2005218320874938383](https://x.com/RuriDra_anime/status/2005218320874938383?s=20)
My mother is gen X, and it reminds me of how she refuses to use TAP on her phone to pay, and wants physical copies of her bills sent to her, haha.
My office has a fax machine that is pretty much just for that one client, I've personally never had to use it for any of the other businesses we work with lol
If anything, the production committee system has never enjoyed more relevance, given the variety of funding sources that have been getting into anime in recent years.
Then if season 2 flopped, they proceed to cut budget, and then if future season succeeded, the budget remain that budget. Its predetermined to be doomed.
Netflix is absolutely infamous for this, idk what they're expecting here
[Link](https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2021/8/19/chainsaw-man-director-looking-for-new-animators-to-train-up-at-mappa-by-offering-full-benefits?srsltid=AfmBOopHwHMAnZ6WPFUDjIuqt2hQt9HStHrj4_I7rvoEPkvNfIP6krSO)
How true, and common this is, on all of their productions IDK. Ultimately they do have a lot of crunch however, people should treat that as systematic throughout the industry rather than a MAPPA issue. Lots of things MAPPA can be accused of doing again, you can find other acclaimed studios like Saru equally guilty of.
The staff lists look much healthier than s2,hakyuu go returning to work after saying "you should the throw the card in the trash", the production line being split between jjk and CSM ,csm movie having more than 1 year unlike jjk 0 which had like 4-6 months
Also, I'm not a big fan of their subs. They lean more heavily into localisation than I would like.
This is all I heard second hand. I don't watch much kdramas.
Sort of like how the big budget Hollywood movies or giant Sony AAA games aren't ever going to push narrative or structural boundaries. If you want the more interesting stuff that isn't focus tested to be as mass market as possible then you go to the independent creators.
Though it's not like any shows that are "too daring" can have those Netflix money as you don't see Chained Soldier being financed by Netflix.
[related video discussing the issue ](https://youtu.be/p1_j6izmEX4)
Only the bigger studios like JC Staff etc could do similar stuff. KyoAni and Cygames already does this.
Then there are all the non-independant owned studios. Like White Fox working on an Alpha Polis IP or Doga Koba working on a Kadokawa IP then they aren't quite self funded, but it is still an internal project.
I don't see anything changing for smaller for studios who can't afford to self fund either.
Publishers will always be able to form a pc and contract out to a starving studio, for more profit.
For some season this Netflix x Mappa became a huge news
They also lead committees, as the main producer, nowadays they can afford a big share, so they will be near the top even if they are not self funding
The biggest exception was Vinland Saga, but I am pretty sure this Season 2 was just a gift to their Vice President, Hiroya Hasegawa (producer of VS), and their board member Shuhei Yabuta (Director of VS) lol
They were not officially in those positions at that time, but it was officially announced shortly after s2 ended
So Vinland Saga fans, be hopeful, some of the biggest supporters of the series are literally top executives at MAPPA
They also get to pocket and reinvest all the profit from their shows.
This is good AND bad news, because MAPPA and Netflix even said that they want to target "wider audience" (which means gaining 10% of new tourists and losing 90% of anime fans).
Destroyed my OPM S3 and Gave us S3 Part 2!
They show up with a dump truck of money and keep renewing until whatever their internal success metric drops and then they cancel the future seasons.
Plot wise, you would get more out of it if you are into broader anime culture like vtuber or vocaloid. Even if you are not it’s still good.
Conclusion, you won’t be disappointed if you appreciate stunning animation.
The animators don't have to worry about stupid deadlines and it shows. There isn't censorship either which people seen strangely scared of when Netflix has already produced so many anime nowadays.
This is almost never happens with American TV shows. If a new season doesn't get announced a few months after the end of the last one at most, then the show is dead.
Netflix in particular is notorious at cancelling shows without resolution (rip The OA) so I hope they don't do that with their anime offerings.
I'm still a bit traumatized by them killing The OA. Didn't expect to get so attached to a series at the start of it, but by the end it had fully won me over.
Also, anime is cheap. The ratings of an anime would have to be abysmal for Netflix to move off, like how Eden Zero performed supposedly
Unlike western live action shows or even western cartoons, most anime were already designed to be only air one season so
At worst, they just don't do season 2 in the hands of Netflix which is already like 80% of modern anime is like.
So unless there are changes in anime production status quo, nothing is really changed.
Also for better or worse, Netflix rarely touches the production itself so Anime Studio is definitely more free than the current system.
But I'm all in support for anime studios finding new ways to get anime made.
Of course, the alternative isn't any better. Look what happened to OPM and I think Konosuba too IIRC.
Time will tell what this is going to lead to.