Sousou no Frieren Season 2 • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End Season 2 - Episode 3 discussion
*Sousou no Frieren Season 2*, episode 3
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We all love Frieren’s feet but his feet are no slouch either though.
"Yes"
I know Fern is fighting the urge to blast her master right there.
The backgrounds this episode is especially varied and beautiful too!
"Young miss" lol
Dang if Frieren is young how old is she?! /s
Uhoh Stark has reached ~~2~~ 1 offenses with Frieren, calling her grandma and hag
But thanks to boosting up Frieren's mom cred, he had it erased off his record, so now he's still only got one she'll never let him live down!
Stark first date with Frieren
Both asking her advice on dating
Frieren threatening to throw a full medieval tantrum.
“Do you realize who it is that you’re asking for help? Are you sane?” lives rent free in my skull.
STARK x FERN REAL REAL DATE CONFIRMED.
Young maiden Frieren casually playing wing woman like she invented romance.
Absolute perfection. Cinema. Academy Award. Send help.
[](#takaradasalute)
She really is a great wingwoman!
Frieren becoming a blob is not on my bingo card. Kinda reminds me of Bocchi the Rock animation.
From Fern or from Himmel?
At least she's self aware lmao
>Young maiden Frieren casually playing wing woman like she invented romance.
Uhuh
Maiden frieren: How cute, here's a candy sonny
Fern: "My condolences to the Hero."
I love how she was even tantruming in the bathroom so people could still hear her beyond closed doors lol.
>“Do you realize who it is that you’re asking for help? Are you sane?” lives rent free in my skull.
At least she's self aware that she should usually be someones' very last choice for relationship advice lol.
>STARK x FERN REAL REAL DATE CONFIRMED.
Fern never thought she'd get this far ahead!
>Young maiden Frieren casually playing wing woman like she invented romance.
The confidence in which she revealed she went on a date with Himmel! Flamme's winning smile on teaching Frieren what it meant to go on a date! Truly masters of relationships!
Flamme looking at you smugly, an expression indicating she knows more about dating than you do.
Lol!
That's the same reason why she thought that she "barely knew Himmel" when he died but then had a whole journey where she does things because "Himmel would do it"
like, there's a saying about one who's "eaten more salt than you've eaten rice" to visualize how much more experience someone who is older has compared to a youngin'; knowledge of a handful of preferences of one person is dwarfed by centuries of time
Seems like both the hydra and the giant boar have that disappearing effect after the party killed them. They could have eaten good food if the body didn't disappear (especially the boar).
Also for continuity purpose, I love that they showed the small fishes that Stark captured during the campfire scenes lol. Maybe by the end of the adventure he'd improve
Just realized by that logic, you can consider monsters as the "animal" equivalent in a human vs animal comparison
[](#makicry)
[](#hikariactually)
I also noted that whether Frieren is sleeping on the ground or in a bed she manages to fall out from (flop away from) wherever she is supposed to be sleeping.
[](#smugpoint)
Frieren either acted like a 1000-year-old or a 1-year-old, no in between. The way she threw a total tantrum for days was hilarious. The rest of her party was like, "Are we babysitting?"
### ANYWAY SEEMS IT WILL BE A DATE EPISODE NEXT WEEK! LET'S GOOO!!!
YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM MY LAWYER!
my 1000 year old baba can't be this cute
That’s one count for you
[](#bocchitheshock)
I also enjoyed seeing both flashbacks of Eisen and Heiter just being such dads to their respective kids. Thankfully, they left them in good hands. Mostly. Somehow, Frieren helped Stark way more in preparing for the date than Fern.
And I gotta say, I can't even be too sad that the episode ends because the ED is always so peak.
Even if the priest last episode joined back, he's not related to Himmel at all.
Himmel is too all-encompassing to only have one single representative. We meet so many people on the journey that were inspired by him instead (Frieren, Heiter, Eisen, Wirbel, literally every town they saved in the past that has a statue of him etc.).
I wonder what it was that caused her to throw that tantrum.
Knowing her, it was something all of us would consider small and insignificant. Like not being allowed to buy any grimoires for three towns in a row.
With no headaches or other side effects of intense crying. I want to know why she was crying so much in the first place.
Frieren is granny on paper, baby in practice.
He was one hell of a priest
AND BRO DROPPED THE BOMB LETS GOO WE ARE GETTING A DATE
also i cant believe that she actually cries like that LMAOO, and the hair animation at almost the end there, holy cinema
I love how she says "PAY ATTENTION TO ME" and Stark still thought this was some kind of mind game yet despite being dense to her true feelings still actually managed to ask her out lol.
Too bad the hot springs village they were expecting...isn't much of a village at all now. Cue classic Frieren face! But hey, any chance for Stark to play with some kids is appreciated. And there's always the Hidden Hot Springs of Etwas Mountain! Even if Frieren isn't excited about them, Stark is for once determined to go somewhere! Cue classic Frieren travel montage!
Of course it wouldn't be an adventure without at least ONE boss battle...hence the three-headed hydra like beast. Good thing they have Stark to distract it by running away so Frieren and Fern can zap it! Good teamwork at Stark's expense!
All that traveling and fighting and it turns out the hidden hot springs...are just a footbath. But at the end of the day, the important thing was the journey itself with your companions and getting a chance to just relax and enjoy a beautiful view together. Just as with Himmel's party, Frieren gets to enjoy it with her current one as well.
Just be careful when you're going downhill at night...Stark is having the ladies land on top of him a lot this season, huh?
I thought Fern was the one most excited about hot springs but Frieren can barely pry herself away from them in the next town (when she's not looking for books). She even found someone who actually thinks she's a young lady.
Fern is not so subtly trying to get Stark to ask her out on a date...can't get any more direct than "PAY ATTENTION TO ME" - but when Stark actually takes it as a challenge and DOES ask her out...she drops her book in shock, "calmly" walks out of the room, and is probably thinking to herself how she never thought that would actually work.
Frieren with her hair wrapped up in a towel is a nice look.
You know Stark is desperate when he's trying to get relationship advice from FRIEREN of all people, but maybe she does have an inkling into the heart of a woman...just so long as you don't call her a Grandma. That's your second strike, Stark! Pray you don't get a third lest you deal with Frieren throwing a tantrum! Not even the Hero Himmel could do anything about it! She'll cry even in the bathroom! And this woman is lecturing someone on tact and delicacy!
But say what you will about Frieren, she knows Fern well...even if she learned everything she knows about Fern from Heiter, Fern's father, with the expectation that she'd take over parental duties of Fern when he passed. Frieren doesn't think she's succeeded, but that she still retains all this knowledge about Fern still means something. And now Stark has finally lifted one strike off his record!
Even Fern is asking Frieren for advice on what to do. But don't worry, Frieren is experienced and Flamme taught her about what it means to go on a date! I hope Himmel though that cat hunt back in the day was a date, if only for his sake. Though finding out she thinks she went on dates with Sein...doesn't help at all.
i think everyone's becoming a bit more comfortable with each other and leaving their shell and this episode is meant to show that
I will say that this marks the first episode that a noticeable lack of polish can be seen. The hydra's running animation looked quite rough, the fight scene was eh, and there are a couple of shots in the montage where they didn't bother to draw faces in (which is really not much to complain about). Its too early to be dooming, but I really hope they don't drop quality when they eventually work on the El Dorado season. I know its a bit of a first world problem, though, afforded only because Frieren has been so polished and stellar thus far that a bit of roughness really stands out when it happens.
I'm sure Sein is smiling down at these two young awkward lovebirds from wherever he is looking for his Gorilla Warrior at the moment. I love that Stark can be so casual about this and that Fern actually accepted the date idea without putting up a front. I love it so much that these two aren't reduced to stammering blushing fools all of a sudden, they just keep being comfortable as usual around each other and some romance or romcom shows could definitely learn from this. Sure, this all started because of Stark wanting to tease her a bit but you can tell that both of them genuinely want this to happen.
Well, to be honest, for Stark this was kinda to be expected, except for his occasional cowardice his social skills are actually insanely high by default. The way he just instantly endears himself to literally every single person he spends some time with is actually nuts. I actually have trouble even picturing the GOAT himself, Himmel, being this intimately friendly so quickly with random people. Himmel usually has a more 'cool', 'refreshing' and 'inspiring' vibe - fitting for his hero status - that's how he looks whenever we see him talk to people or kids he helped in the flashbacks. But the way everyone treats Stark feels a bit different, they all genuinely just like him as you would an older/younger brother/cousin or a nephew/grandson - it's immediately as if he has been a part of their friends/family for years.
There would not be a single new German word this time if you would exclude the location names since we met no new named people. I figure when this happens from now on then I might feature some keywords from the episode instead and tell you what they would be in German as well, just for fun.
**Episode 31: "Somewhere She'd Like" (2x3)**
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*Locations*
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* **Etwas** (Mountains) - "something", "some", "somewhat", "slightly", "anything", "a little", " a bit", "any"; a highly context based word, can be a pronoun, adjective or adverb depending on how it's used, pretty much just how "some" works in English. This mountain range seemed to be teeming with monsters, having to defeat a huge three-headed dragon-like, hydra-like lizard for a mere footbath is actually insane, lol. Also, it's probably not the only one since the Himmel & Co. flashback insinuated they met the same type of monster so they have to come from somewhere.
* (Fortress City of) **Heiß** - "hot" (adj.); very on the nose name for a famous hot springs town. I've translated **scharf** ("sharp", "hot", "spicy", "sexy" etc.) before and they are both synonyms for describing "spicy/hot" food or for describing someone you find attractive (it sounds a bit crass though, in my opinion) but unlike with **heiß** you would never use **scharf** to describe that something is actually just "hot" (in temperature). Not sure if I explained that well.
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*Some relevant words from the episode in German*
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* "Hot Springs" - is **Heiße Quelle** or **Therme** in German. That's **Therme** (in German the H is silent here) as in "thermal spring/bath". As a funfact, many towns in Germany have the moniker **Bad** ("bath"/"spa" (noun)) as part of their name. The reason why is because those towns received those titles officially from the government to designate them as a spa or health resort town (**Kurort** (noun)). It signifies that the town has mineral or thermal springs, or a certified healthy climate. There are over 350 towns in Germany with this designation and many of them often feature historic bathhouses, parks and even some [**Gradierwerke** ("graduation towers" (noun) for salt extraction)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graduation_tower). Though our family always just called them **Salinen** ("saltworks" (noun)) and that's how they are referred to colloquially as far as I know. If you are curious about all the **Bad** towns in Germany (hehe) [wikipedia has a list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spa_towns_in_Germany) of them and I don't know for sure if that is even all of them. Some famous examples include: Bad Homburg, Wiesbaden, Baden-Baden (yes, lol), Bad Schandau, Bad Ems, Bad Kissingen, Bad Kreuznach and Bad Wildungen etc. In regards to towns like Wiesbaden or Baden-Baden, they usually don't get the prefix **Bad** or chose not to take it since their original name already had the **-baden** suffix way before the government started this whole thing. Although, **Bad Baden-Baden** would sound fucking hilarious.
* "Footbath" - is **Fußbad** in German. A simple compound word of "foot" and "bath" just like in English. At least the scenery there seemed to have been worth the struggle to get there.
* "Date" (as in the meet-up) - is **Verabredung** in German. Not strictly just a romantic term since it can be used for any plans you make with another person but it has a romantic vibe and is mostly used for that. I guess the same goes for how "date" is mostly used in English when talking about a meet-up/activity with another person, it doesn't have to be romantic but usually has that connotation. We also use **Date**, stuff like **Blind Date** or the French **Rendezvous** as common loanwords though. If you want to sound like a total German boomer (or older) you could also use the old term **Stelldichein** ("tryst", "rendezvous") but honestly nobody really uses that anymore nowadays, especially not young people. However that one is almost always used in romantic contexts (except when you use it to make fun of someone, maybe).
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Links to my other comments (click on 1x1 to then jump to any other comment for S1 from there):
[1x1](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/16vec5d/sousou_no_frieren_frieren_beyond_journeys_end/k2ud2yk/) | [2x1](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1qeib9f/sousou_no_frieren_season_2_frieren_beyond/nzxrbgj/) |
[2x2](https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1qkt8kb/sousou_no_frieren_season_2_frieren_beyond/o198jcv/) |
**2x3**
Both halves of this episode was so good. Can definitely relate to Eisen remembering things that were pointless the most clearly. Sometimes it’s those unplanned, impromptu things that stick with you the most.
And OMG they’re going on a date ! Fern has really softened up to Stark this season. Not sure if she has already caught feelings or not, but she’s definitely getting there. And Stark too. But at the very least, they both do seem fond of each other.
And lol just before Frieren brought up how she also went on a date with Sein (by her definition), I was thinking Frieren would’ve really appreciated Sein’s mediation right now. She had to give advice for both sides while lacking experience herself. But a date involving looking for cats sound lovely too tbh
And at this point Frieren and Heiter are Fern’s grandparents basically
Poor [Stark](https://imgchest.com/p/n87wqxkj37x), he thought Frieren had some elaborate plan to defeat the giant lizard, but as it turns out, [he was just a bait](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/e28d0222318e.png) :(
Stark certainly showed courage by [asking Frieren for help with his date with Fern](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/acf77fe4eed4.png), considering Frieren's nonexistent love life, but to everyone's surprise, [she gave him some very sound advices](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/71abe5771836.png).
I'm definitely looking forward to [Stark](https://imgchest.com/p/n87wqxkj37x) and [Fern](https://imgchest.com/p/agyvj93gwy8)'s date, especially since they both asked Frieren for advice on it. It could be a really fun, if awkward, date!
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
* [Frieren](https://imgchest.com/p/9249lp8la4n)
* [Group scenes](https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gp5apb4j)
* [Stark](https://imgchest.com/p/n87wqxkj37x)
* [Fern](https://imgchest.com/p/agyvj93gwy8)
* [Others](https://imgchest.com/p/md7o5q2da4p)
* [Backgrounds](https://imgchest.com/p/9249lp85v4n)
*EDIT. I added my screenshot albums.*
At any rate, now I'm dying to know what kind of insult Himmel may have inadvertently thrown Frieren's way to make her lose her shit for 3 days and 3 nights straight.
Well at least one of them got some useful tips for a date. And i suppose i shouldn't be surprised by what Frieren considers a date at this point
Stark asking Fern on a date, then trying to get dating advice from Frieren. Fern then asks Frieren for dating advice. This date is going to go so well.
Frieren's tantrums are terrifying.
That's right, Stark and Frieren date *lesgo!* After all, as per the infinitely wise words of Flamme: "when two close friends of different genders head out together, that is called a date."
I guess his date with Fern's on next week, which... ***HYPE?!***
Stark : FARK !
Fern : ಠ_ಠ
finally, the date was adapted!
As funny as this entire episode was (I love Frieren's [content little post-spa face](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/97372c7b4540.jpg) so much), something about old man Heiter looking so animated just talking about Fern hit me a little harder than I was ready for.
Heiter was a proud papa/grandpapa.
Edit:😭🤏BABY
https://postimg.cc/CRhcRxQk
I swear this show... there's **no episode** that goes by without a little moment for deep emotions.
"This way we can enjoy it together" followed by Eisen saying "I wouldn't trade my memories of those ridiculous adventures with my friends for anything".
There's always a moment or two that the show manages to smile silly while eyes get teary.
Also the pre-date scouting mission shows how much Frieren knows about Fern. Character growth
Stark might not be the best at picking up the clues and he is clumsy at reading Fern's intentions, but you can't say he is thoughtless. He takes this date thing very seriously and tries his best to make it a good experience for Fern.
[](#cinema)
[Himmel's completionist mentality really dragged the Hero's Party to lots of troublesome places.](https://i.imgur.com/bRQwYm1.jpeg) I suppose if it weren't for Himmel wanting to explore every new location and complete every side quest, they wouldn't have beaten the Demon Lord. xD
I was kinda wondering what kind of [genius plan Frieren had](https://i.imgur.com/KJE6Hmk.jpeg) for making Stark run. It turns out [she just wanted to use him as bait!](https://i.imgur.com/ce9d5Z2.jpeg) You can't deny the results, tho! [They managed to beat the hydra!](https://i.imgur.com/dYEThby.jpeg)
So Stark knew the hidden spring was just a footbath and still wanted to go because he wanted to see [the same view Eisen saw with the Hero's Party that day](https://i.imgur.com/lfmJZKs.jpeg). I do love the [little changes in the scenery in the present version of the view.](https://i.imgur.com/aqfYsxz.jpeg) <3
[Fern acting like a needy girlfriend is always hilarious.](https://i.imgur.com/l2oMRjj.jpeg) She really made it clear to Stark [that she wants him to pay attention to her.](https://i.imgur.com/82ItUXK.jpeg) And Stark had no idea how much of an effect he'd had on Fern [when he teased about going out on a date!](https://i.imgur.com/w4r4dat.jpeg)
[Frieren's reaction is absolutely fair.](https://i.imgur.com/sJfZPLe.jpeg) Why would you ask the lady who still hasn't figured out that Himmel was in love with her? I do appreciate how Frieren still tries even when she knows she wouldn't be much of help.
[Oh no. Frieren is counting Stark's offences whenever he calls her a hag.](https://i.imgur.com/CDlczMq.jpeg) I love that you'd think she'd do something to Stark when actually she'll just [scream and cry like a baby having a tantrum!](https://i.imgur.com/7LZTAUc.jpeg) Makes you wonder what the Himmel, Heither, and Eisen did to make her throw a temper tantrum like that.
Even if Frieren [doesn't think she's impressive](https://i.imgur.com/kpu0aek.jpeg) because she was just telling Stark the things Heither told her about Fern, I still think she's impressive. I mean, she managed to remember all of those little details, meaning she really cares that much about Fern <3
I love how even after giving Stark some advice, [Frieren apparently doesn't even know what a date is.](https://i.imgur.com/wbhkROn.jpeg) I'm sure Himmel would be happy to know that he's gone out on multiple dates with Frieren if we're using her interpretation of the word. xD
So it looks like we're gonna have to wait until next week's episode for Fern and Stark's date! I can't wait!
ALSO STARFERN DATE !!!!!
[](#csikon)